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Jill - 19 Dec 2004 18:01 GMT
Which is better for finding cancer? Since I have had the PET, CAT
scan, should I have a CT of the chest/ neck without contrast?
Jill
J - 20 Dec 2004 08:49 GMT
> Which is better for finding cancer? Since I have had the PET, CAT
> scan, should I have a CT of the chest/ neck without contrast?
> Jill

Hi Jill, if one of the other tests you've had, had contrast, maybe you've
had the best? (ask your doctor)
Besides, I thought the CT on Wednesday is of your tummy?...
Hugs
J
Jill - 20 Dec 2004 14:39 GMT
>> Which is better for finding cancer? Since I have had the PET, CAT
>> scan, should I have a CT of the chest/ neck without contrast?
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> Hugs
> J

J,
I was told by someone:
they certainly have the knowledge to find activity.   A CT of the chest
WITHOUT contrast may produce your answers. I'm surprised it hasn't been done
on you.

And they also sent this to me.

--Unfortunately, most physicians (including nuclear medicine physicians
> and radiologists) do not realize the severe interfence of iodine-based
> contrast in radioiodine scanning and therapy. Although most assume that
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> unsatisfactory for thyroid cancer, which requires unique knowledge and
> clinical management techniques.--Dr. Ain thyca 10-99

I do have the CT Wed. But didn't know if I should ask about this.
I trust my Doctors, but then you read something like this, it makes
you think. I know the out come will be the same, surgery.
Just want to make sure I have a clue.
Hugs,
Jill
J - 20 Dec 2004 16:12 GMT
> >> Which is better for finding cancer? Since I have had the PET, CAT
> >> scan, should I have a CT of the chest/ neck without contrast?
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> Hugs,
> Jill

Well Jill
What you posted seems to say that doctors order "contrast" tests for thyroid
(cancer) patients and they should not.
That makes sense to me.  It seems to me that many non-thyroid cancer doctors
don't know/understand thyroid cancers and may mess up either the scanning or the
RAI process by ordering the wrong tests.
Call the test place and ask if it's been ordered "with contrast".  If it has,
then you'll have to "duke it out with them" about changing it to non-contrast or
the doctor who ordered the test. Fax or take them (doctors) the articles that
you just posted.
That is what I would do, if it were me (in this situation), Jill.
Hugs
J
bj - 20 Dec 2004 17:55 GMT
Jill -- if you absolutely know that you will not be having any kind of I131
scan or therapy for at least a year, or you absolutely know that I131 is no
longer useful for you, the CT contrast may not matter in that respect. It's
when you have the CT contrast & then need I131 that the CT contrast
interferes. I don't think it causes any actual harm, though, just delay of
any I131 stuff. The thyca group has a number of people with this experience;
some of them were told they were "iodine resistant" -- but they 'd had CT
contrast a few months earlier (& their doctor didn't think it mattered, said
it had been long enough for it to clear, & didn't give them a pre-treatment
iodine test). Again, you might also ask in the advanced thyca e-group about
this.
I've had a CT w/o contrast as a followup to an iffy I131 scan; also an MRI
w/contrast (it's different stuff). No PET yet.
Best wishes.
bj

>> >> Which is better for finding cancer? Since I have had the PET, CAT
>> >> scan, should I have a CT of the chest/ neck without contrast?
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> Hugs
> J
Jill - 20 Dec 2004 18:14 GMT
> Jill -- if you absolutely know that you will not be having any kind of
> I131
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> Best wishes.
> bj
Thanks bj,
That's where I came up with this info. I had thyrogen injections and
then the whole body scan, then CT sono of neck, then guided needle
biopsy, then the PET/CAT scan.
Don't know that this makes a difference or not.
Jill
J - 20 Dec 2004 18:27 GMT
> Jill -- if you absolutely know that you will not be having any kind of I131
> scan or therapy for at least a year, or you absolutely know that I131 is no
> longer useful for you,

she still has active antibodies and feels she shouldn;t because she's had a TT,
so they're trying to figure out where the thyroid tissue is. (for the other
scans).

The abdominal scan is to look for something different.
J
bj - 21 Dec 2004 16:55 GMT
I was merely pointing out something that I wasn't sure she had mentioned
before (in relation to her resistance/recurrance/whatever you want to call
it), and an e-list of other people who may have been in similar
circumstances or have hints, tips, sources, medical leads, etc. for her.

Even the main (vs. the advanced) thyca list has people who have stubborn Tg,
and have varying info & opinions on the subject, how they're dealing with
it, etc.

Sorry if I seem to have overstepped.
bj

>> Jill -- if you absolutely know that you will not be having any kind of
>> I131
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> The abdominal scan is to look for something different.
> J
J - 21 Dec 2004 18:31 GMT
> I was merely pointing out something that I wasn't sure she had mentioned
> before (in relation to her resistance/recurrance/whatever you want to call
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> Sorry if I seem to have overstepped.
> bj

Overstepped? I was explaining and wondering if you knew if she'll need I131,
since they can't find the tissue.
Hugs
J

> >> Jill -- if you absolutely know that you will not be having any kind of
> >> I131
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> > The abdominal scan is to look for something different.
> > J
Jill - 20 Dec 2004 18:10 GMT
> Well Jill
> What you posted seems to say that doctors order "contrast" tests for
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> Hugs
> J
J,
I know that the PET/ CAT scan was with contrast. The I-131
is a radioactive pill/ assume it's a form of contast. The CT of the
neck was without any contrast.
I geuss it time to go to duke city. <g>  I'll see if I can e-mail this to
the
Doc. If I can't, will take it up on Wed. Geuss we will see what happens.
Hugs,
J
 
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