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wolfgang - 04 May 2004 03:39 GMT
This is a tough one...
I don't think it can be done...

Is there a way to sort out delusions and loss of timeline due to
(a) high blood sugar (on the order of 300)
(b) tumor effect
(c) morphine like pain meds
???

Noticed that if pain meds aren't administered for a few hours the
delusions do not go away.

I'm concerned about the tumor effect, even though it is shrinking from
the radiotherapy, there isn't much room in a person's head for 2
lemons (I was told it doubled in size).

Just trying to figure out what it all means.
Alayne - 04 May 2004 07:32 GMT
> This is a tough one...
> I don't think it can be done...
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>
> Just trying to figure out what it all means.

Hi Wolfgang,

Tony suffered from both delusions and then psychosis.  The delusions were
put down to the morphine and the psychosis down to the tumour (he had a
GBM4).  The delusions could be "talked" through, albeit sometimes
continuously and loads of re-assurance given.  The psychosis was treated
with medication (can't remember it's name something like phenobarbitone).
It was probably the worst symptom that I had to deal with, because he so
obviously wasn't my man by then.

Best wishes Wolfgang, and hang in there.

Hugs

Alayne
J - 06 May 2004 12:26 GMT
> This is a tough one...
> I don't think it can be done...

I think you're right. It's hard to tell from the blood sugars to the brain
involvement to the dying process.

Ron, I have been reading all your posts. (even though some I did not
comment on).

I was thinking about you (during my walk today) and what has transpired
since your first post here back in July.
And wanted to say "hats off to you, Ron".
You said "I think providing aid and comfort to someone stricken and their
family may be the most important thing I've
ever done."  You're right.

You kept true to the patient's and family's goal of keeping her alive and
reasonably independent and comfortable for as long as possible. And knew
when it was time to call in hospice. You kept the family (close and
extended) together and all on the "same page", despite the challenges
along the way.

And stayed sane (by all appearances - so far) through all kinds of
weirdness (boyfriend) and other family health issues and (I'm guessing)
continued to work and/or hopefully continued to have your own
relax/enjoyment time (guitar etc).

They couldn't have picked a better person to manage the situation.
I just wanted you to know that, Ron.

J
wolfgang - 13 May 2004 04:36 GMT
Wow.  I'm moved.

Thanks J.  That was kind of you.

And thanks for not commenting when I was venting...
or misunderstood something...

She is home now... Hospice did not start because she claimed she
didn't want them after signing herself in.  I think it was another
panic attack.

That is ok.  We can handle things for two more weeks --- then she gets
the follow up MRI that she wouldn't qualify for if she's in Hospice.
After that, there is documentation to enter Hospice without her
specific consent.  At that point it will just be visits from friendly
nurses as far as she's concerned.

Vans with wheelchair access are expensive to rent!  A taxi ride in one
is $30 plus $2 a mile.  Living out in the country ain't quite as
attractive as it used to be!

The good news is that it looks like she will make it to her son's
wedding - even though she swears she just missed it.

Does anyone here have good advice on how to deal with bedsores?

>> This is a tough one...
>> I don't think it can be done...
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>
>J
Daffman - 13 May 2004 12:10 GMT
Bed sores are really tough to treat especially if they are already broken
through, meaning weeping.  If they are on the tailbone or the hip areas,
alevyn pads and second skin barriers are your best bet.  If the site hasn't
broken down and is mainly just really red and sore, pad the area with 4x4
gauze after washing with gentle warm water and a mild soap, and apply body
lotion to moisten the skin and keep it from chaffing.  over the 4x4 pad add
a second skin ( also called OpSites)  Bedsores are really hard to cure once
they have started.  If it is seeping (draining) you will need to have a
nurse check it often or show you how to check it.  When Patrick had them, we
flushed his with saline water when they opened, but the closed ones were
washed with mild soap and water and an Alevyn  was placed over the site.  It
helped for his elbows and his tailbone was mainly red so I would wash it and
apply cream to keep the skin moist, and then I would keep him off of it.
Try to turn someone who is bedridden every 2-4 hours depending on the type
of mattress they are on.  Ask your hospice if they can get you an air
mattress to place on her bed or even a roho mattress.  It relieves the
pressure points.
Take care.
Salisha
I am not a doctor, but work in a nursing home and did 24/7 palliative care
with my husband for 4 months.
J - 13 May 2004 18:31 GMT
> And thanks for not commenting when I was venting...
> or misunderstood something...

sometimes silence is golden or so I hear.

> She is home now... Hospice did not start because she claimed she
> didn't want them after signing herself in.  I think it was another
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Does anyone here have good advice on how to deal with bedsores?

I'm glad to see that Salisha posted to you about bedsores.
I didn't realize you're out in the country. If there's a doctor and a retired
nurse out there, perhaps that would work for a while. I'll leave it up to you.
You know what's best.  It's good all the preparations are in place for when
you're all ready.

Just wondering what's the point of an MRI?
*hugs Ron *
J
Daffman - 14 May 2004 00:53 GMT
:) Thanks J
After awhile, it feels like I know almost as much as others who when to
school for years  (although I did go to school for years too...lol) anyway,
glad to hear you agree with my advice.  Non medical to non medical...haha...
I really need to finish my premed soon...I only have 2 more courses to go
and then I can apply for med school but that really won't mean much cause I
make too much to get a student loan and not enough to get a bank loan....I
guess I will be where I am forever, unless I win the lottery!...talk care
Salisha
J - 17 May 2004 11:23 GMT
> :) Thanks J
> After awhile, it feels like I know almost as much as others who when to
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> guess I will be where I am forever, unless I win the lottery!...talk care
> Salisha

Never give up on your dream, S.
It can happen. You've got lots of time. Even people in their 50's and 60's (or
older) continue their education.
You'll get there..
Hugs
J
 
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