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Matt - 01 May 2004 19:23 GMT
Greetings,

I'm very frightened. Scared to death. For the past week I've had
symptoms that resemble Colon Cancer;

Sudden and unusual change in bowel behaviour
Loose stool
Cramps or pain before going
Constant pain around the tailbone and rectal area
Weight loss of about 10 pounds within the last couple months.

As far as I can tell there's no blood in my stool. However, after
wiping I've seen bright red blood sreaks on the paper. I'm hoping
that's nothing more than hemmroids(sp?).

On Friday I saw the doctor.  He orderd blood, fecal, and urine tests.
After those tests the doctor will decide whether or not to order a
colonoscapy. Either way I'm going to demand one.

Now I wait.

I have an active imagination and fear the worst.

I can't give my stool sample until Monday morning and I already filled
the cup. Does anyone know how long stool samples will last? Is two and
a half days too long for a sample?

I'm so scared.

Thanks for listening.

-Matt
Emily - 01 May 2004 19:45 GMT
matthew@puckertoe.com said...
> I'm very frightened. Scared to death. For the past week I've had
> symptoms that resemble Colon Cancer;

It's OK to be scared; however you need to realise that the
symptoms you describe could just as easily apply to inflammatory
bowel disease or even - if there's no blood in the stool itself -
irritable bowel syndrome.  Wait until after you've had the tests
before panicking: IBD can be treated and although it's unpleasant
it is not life-threatening.  Cancer of course is a different
kettle of fish and it would take a very rare person not to be
worried by the prospect.  I repeat though that there is no need
to panic just yet because the symptoms you describe could be many
things, not necessarily cancer.

HTH
Dawn Morley - 02 May 2004 10:12 GMT
I have to agree with Emily on this one. the symptoms you describe do sound
more like IBS, IBD, I know its easy for me to say this, but please don't
worry. I have the same symptoms myself and have managed to keep them at bay
by taking a form of peppermint oil. But your doc should be able to tell you
more once your tests have been done. Good luck.
> matthew@puckertoe.com said...
> > I'm very frightened. Scared to death. For the past week I've had
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> HTH
Dawn Morley - 02 May 2004 10:14 GMT
You might find some useful info here.  alt.support.crohns-colitis or
alt.support.ibs hope this helps
> I have to agree with Emily on this one. the symptoms you describe do sound
> more like IBS, IBD, I know its easy for me to say this, but please don't
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> > HTH
MB - 01 May 2004 20:27 GMT
Your symptoms do NOT resemble colon cancer. They more likely resemble IBS
(irritable bowel syndrome). I understand your fear, but try to relax --- you
are doing the right thing by getting it checked out.

Red streaks on the paper are MUCH more indicative of hemorrhoids or a slight
fissure.

All of the above ailments are, fortunately, relatively benign.

Mel
> Greetings,
>
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>
> -Matt
Matt - 02 May 2004 13:40 GMT
> Your symptoms do NOT resemble colon cancer. They more likely resemble IBS
> (irritable bowel syndrome). I understand your fear, but try to relax --- you
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> Mel

Thanks for all the encouragement. I've been reading about IBS and seem
to have most of the symptoms of that also. I know I did the right
thing by going to the doctor. It's just waiting that's driving me
nuts.

I had some rasberry jello yesterday and then later in the evening I
think I might have passed it. My stool was bright red. When I wiped
the paper was bright red also. I almost cried. Since that episode I've
gone three times and haven't seen anything as nearly dramitic as that.

Could I have just passed that so quickly that it retained it's color?
When blood is passed is it supposed to be a darker color?

Before I go any further I just want to thank Emily and MB for such a
quick and encouraging response. Thanks.

-Matt
Emily - 02 May 2004 14:05 GMT
matthew@puckertoe.com said...
> Before I go any further I just want to thank Emily and MB for such a
> quick and encouraging response. Thanks.

You're welcome.  The people over on alt.support.crohns-colitis
are friendly and helpful in the main (there's always the odd
idiot in any group) should you need to ask their advice, but at
the moment I'd imagine they'd counsel patience for the time
being.  When you've had the tests and got the results you can do
all the panicking (that spelling looks wrong but I can't think
how else to do it) you like if it helps - but whatever you do,
keep your sense of perspective, your sense of proportion and -
most important - your sense of humour.  And please let us know
how you get on :-)
Gert Wallage - 03 May 2004 07:34 GMT
> I had some rasberry jello yesterday and then later in the evening
> I think I might have passed it. My stool was bright red. When I
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> Could I have just passed that so quickly that it retained it's color?
> When blood is passed is it supposed to be a darker color?

I'm not a medical person, so please keep that in mind... but my dad had
colon cancer a few years back (and survived it just fine), so I've read a
little bit about this question.

If you're passing bright red blood, that suggests that the blood source is
at the lower end of the colon or in the anus.  Hemorrhoids or an anal
fissure are likely sources.  When the blood originates higher in the colon,
it has usually turned a brownish colour by the time it's expelled.  In
fact, it's often so well mixed into the feces at this point that you can't
even see it.  (That's why the standard test for colon bleeding is called a
Fecal *Occult* Blood Test - "occult" meaning hidden.)

In my father's case, he saw some blood while passing stool, and checked
with his doctor.  The GP thought it was probably just hemorrhoids, but
wanted to be sure.  He sent my dad for a fecal occult blood test, then
(when the results were positive) a colonoscopy.  A small tumour was found
high in the colon, Dad had surgery, and everything was fine.  The doctor
later said it was probable that the blood *was* from hemorrhoids, as the
location of the tumour meant that it wouldn't have been bright red if it
was the source of the blood.  It was just fortunate that there was blood,
that Dad noticed it and thought to report it, and that his doctor
investigated it right away.

Speaking personally, I've suffered from both hemorrhoids and anal fissures.
Those !#$% anal fissures in particular can bleed quite profusely (scary
bright red blood, too).  The problem is that they can be hard to heal; each
new bowel movement tends to open the fissure back up again.  All the same,
it's not dangerous; just annoying and painful.  But - always best to have
it promptly investigated by a professional, to put your mind at rest.

No one can say yet what's happening with you, but I think there's a good
chance that it's one of the things people here have mentioned as
possibilities, and *not* cancer.  Please hold on and try to stay calm until
you get the results from your doctor.  Your chances are good that it's
something benign.

Gert
Emily - 03 May 2004 23:13 GMT
gwallage@telus.inv said...
> Please hold on and try to stay calm until
> you get the results from your doctor.  Your chances are good that it's
> something benign.

And even if it's not, caught early enough colorectal cancer
needn't be the end of the world.  My brother in law had it and
had surgery; he should be due to get his 'all clear' round about
now.  Hang in there friend :)
Gert Wallage - 05 May 2004 09:25 GMT
>> Please hold on and try to stay calm until
>> you get the results from your doctor.  Your chances
>> are good that it's something benign.

> And even if it's not, caught early enough colorectal cancer
> needn't be the end of the world.  My brother in law had it and
> had surgery; he should be due to get his 'all clear' round about
> now.  Hang in there friend :)

Good point.  That's why I mentioned my father... when it was discovered he
had colorectal cancer, luckily the cancer was found fairly early, and all
he needed was a single operation.  That was ten years ago; he's 80 years
old now, and still alive and kicking!

Gert
Simm Webb - 02 May 2004 16:56 GMT
Based on what you are writing, I would take myself to an emergency room, and
discuss your problem with the attending physician.  This happened to my wife
about 10 years ago, and they didn't take her lightly.  When all was said and
done, with a few tests, she was indeed found to have a problem.  She was
operated on immediately, and since the tumor hadn't penetrated the wall of the
colon, she was declared free of cancer.  I cannot emphasize seeing a doctor
strong enough.  If my opinion is incorrect, the Doctor will verify it, and there
will be no harm to you.  On the other hand. . .

>Greetings,
>
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>
>-Matt

Grateful to be back.

Eddie MD OTF
MB - 05 May 2004 03:21 GMT
Simm:

I'm glad you posted that note.
While I have posted that the symptoms do NOT look like cancer and sound more
like IBS or a hemmorr. or a fissure, it obviously is something that needs to
be taken very seriously UNTIL shown to be one of the above!

Mel

> Based on what you are writing, I would take myself to an emergency room, and
> discuss your problem with the attending physician.  This happened to my wife
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> Eddie MD OTF
Matt - 05 May 2004 13:18 GMT
Of course I agree 100% about seeing the doctor. I'm just waiting on
the tests now. Hopefully they'll be completed this week. In the mean
time all I can do is wait. If other symptoms begin to manifest then
I'll head for the ER.

I cannot emphasize enough about the feelings I'm having though.
(Emotional) It's the damn waiting that's killing me. And my poor wife.
She's talking like there's nothing wrong. When I know that she's just
as scared as I am. And she's taking very good care of me. I guess
behind every sick man is a great woman.

Thank God for wives.

It's a new experience for us, and we're having a hard time dealing
with it.

Enough whining.

Thanks again for all the support and encouragement.

I'll let you know how this turns out.

> Simm:
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> > Eddie MD OTF
Emily - 05 May 2004 21:49 GMT
matthew@puckertoe.com said...
> I guess
> behind every sick man is a great woman.

<Indignant> And this is a surprise... why??  <g>

> Thank God for wives.

<Curtseys>

> It's a new experience for us, and we're having a hard time dealing
> with it.
>
> Enough whining.

Nah, you whine as much as you like.  If you can't whine here,
where can you?

> Thanks again for all the support and encouragement.

All part of the service :-)
 
> I'll let you know how this turns out.

Yes, please do.  And meanwhile (though I know it won't make the
slightest bit of difference, 'cos you're human and it's what
humans 'do') DON'T WORRY.

{{{{{Hugs}}}}}
Phyllis Copp - 06 May 2004 02:12 GMT
> matthew@puckertoe.com said...
> > I guess
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> {{{{{Hugs}}}}}

Big hugs from me too! ((( )))
             Phyllis
Elsie - 05 May 2004 13:34 GMT
Exactly.  I hope nobody talked Matt out of pursuing a colonoscopy by
telling him that it doesn't look like cancer.  My only symptom was
some bright red bllod on the toilet paper and I did end up having
stage 3 colorectal cancer... It does happen...

Having said that: Relax, Matt.  Go to the doctor.  Pursue the
colonoscopy and learn what you can about what you might have.  If it's
colon cancer, it's very curable in the early stages.

Elsie

> Simm:
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> > Eddie MD OTF
Matt - 07 May 2004 19:02 GMT
Just thought I'd let you know.

I just got back from my doctors appointment. All tests were either
normal or negative.

But I didn;t leave until he aggred to me getting a colonoscopy. (And a
prostate ultrasound thrown in for good measure)

I'll let you know about the other tests.

> Greetings,
>
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>
> -Matt
Emily - 07 May 2004 21:38 GMT
matthew@puckertoe.com said...
> Just thought I'd let you know.
>
> I just got back from my doctors appointment. All tests were either
> normal or negative.

Cautious 'whoohoo!'.  Whoohoo! because they were normal or
negative; cautious because that only tells you what it isn't.

> But I didn;t leave until he aggred to me getting a colonoscopy.

Probably a good idea, given your fears.  Hopefully the results
will put your mind at rest about having cancer.  Look at it this
way: you've been worried that you might have the dreaded 'big C'.  
After that, anything else is chickenfeed and can be dealt with :)

> (And a
> prostate ultrasound thrown in for good measure)

You don't do things by halves, do you!  Mind you, you might just
as well have the test if it's being offered - after all it can't
do any harm, and who knows, it might be the best thing you ever
did.  That isn't meant to sound alarmist, by the way.  My mother
went with her sister for a routine mammagram, just to keep her
company.  Sister was fine; mother had some precancerous cells
removed with no need for further treatment.  (This was some years
ago BTW; mother's current problem is unrelated).

> I'll let you know about the other tests.

Please do.  It's great that you've got normal test results so
far, but it would be good to know what's behind the symptoms
you've been having.

Have some {{{{{hugs}}}}} while you're waiting.
Matt - 18 May 2004 12:59 GMT
Hi,

It's early, and I'm just waking after a groggy night.

I had my colonoscopy last night. There was some infection or
inflamation at one point, but the doctor said that it looks like it's
healing just fine. One of the pictures showed some blotchy, red spots
on the lining.

All in all a good diagnosis.

After lurking around here for the last month or so, I feel very
fortunate and grateful.

Thank you ALL for such wonderful support, hugs, and words of
encouragment(sp?).

> Greetings,
>
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>
> -Matt
Elsie - 18 May 2004 18:49 GMT
> Hi,
>
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>
> -Matt

I'm glad to hear that it wasn't cancer and that it looks like whatever
it was is clearing up.

Thanks for letting us know.  I don't know about anybody else, but I
for my part was wondering about you - and I bet that I was not the
only one.

Elsie
 
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