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My Dad has cancer -- need advise (J, Steph, others??)

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MB - 30 Apr 2004 03:53 GMT
OK folks -- I can use some advice regarding my father.

He will be 96 years old in 2 weeks. About 15 years ago, he was dx. with
prostate cancer; but it was the best type (the most slow-growing). They
treated it by removing the portion of the testicles that produces the
hormone that feeds the cancer.

About 4 years ago, they found some bladder cancer (I suspect it was a spread
of the prostate cancer). Again, they have been treating that by removing the
very small lesions as they arise (they check it every 6-12 months).

Recently, he saw a dermatologist due to some strange red lesions on his
head. We thought it would be skin cancer. However the report came back that
it is lympho-ango sarcoma.

I live in Michigan and my Dad is in California so I am not sure of the exact
wording/spelling of this. I guess he will soon be seeing an oncologist, so I
'll be getting more information. But, can someone shed some light on what
this might be?? Could it still be a manifestation of the original prostate
cancer or is this something new?

Also, what can be done. My Dad is currently in reasonably good health with
no symptoms whatsoever. I am really biased against chemo in this situation;
I want my Dad to enjoy his remaining months/years. I have no idea what the
oncologist is going to suggest, but at least if I can get some
information/ideas I can suggest some questions. (Having been a reader in
this group, I certainly know some questions to ask). Also, does it make
sense to perhaps do some radiation on his scalp (he has about 3 lesions
there; they removed 2 -- he is in no pain). Is there any point to that if
the cancer is throughout his body via the lymph system. My parents do not
have internet access, so I am posting this for them, hoping to glean some
information.

PLEASE RESPOND.

Mel
Steph - 30 Apr 2004 08:00 GMT
> OK folks -- I can use some advice regarding my father.
>
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> this might be?? Could it still be a manifestation of the original prostate
> cancer or is this something new?

No, it's a completely different cancer.

> Also, what can be done. My Dad is currently in reasonably good health with
> no symptoms whatsoever. I am really biased against chemo in this situation;
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>
> Mel

The standard treatment for lymphangiosarcoma of the scalp is surgery, but
radiotherapy is probably as good.
Having said that, whatever treatment is used, lymphangiosarcoma has a habit
of recurring quite quickly. Chemotherapy is a waste of time, whatever the
patient's age.
I would think the best benefit for least cost is probably some simple
radiotherapy
J - 30 Apr 2004 08:08 GMT
> OK folks -- I can use some advice regarding my father.
>
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>
> Mel

Hi Mel,
Well if it's Lymphangiosarcoma (may also be called angiosarcomas)
http://www.bccancer.bc.ca/PPI/TypesofCancer/Sarcomas/Treatment.htm
Arise in vascular tissue or lymphatics, respectively
Very malignant types of tumors because these cancer cells spread easily into the
bloodstream.[end copied text]

I would think that if they did not remove the 3rd it's because of either the
size or bone involvement?

It says here that the beneficial role of chemo has not been established and it
mentions radiation therapy for locoregional control. They also mention low or
high -grade.
http://www.emedicine.com/ent/topic675.htm

Where I get the possible bone involvement
http://www.maxillofacialcenter.com/BondBook/softtissue/angiosarc.html

So I would hope he's been referred for radiation therapy...or maybe they leave
it alone if there's no bleeding?

If there's some chance it might spread quickly I'd want to go see my Dad.
I'll have to leave this with you for now to read. I see Steph's here, perhaps he
has a one-liner reply for you.

Hugs for now.
J
Steph - 30 Apr 2004 15:55 GMT
> > OK folks -- I can use some advice regarding my father.
> >
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> Hugs for now.
> J

It can involve the underlying skull, but that's not common. It tends to
spread to the rest of the scalp, then the neck nodes, then widely.
MB - 30 Apr 2004 17:21 GMT
J:

They only took two because they were not sure what it was. If it was a
low-grade skin cancer, for example, they might not need to do more.

Thanks for the info. I've been searching since I posted and there is a
wealth of information out there. It is all sort of dismal. However, the good
spin is this:  I read that the average survival time for this sort of cancer
is 15 months to 2 years. My Dad is 96 years old. So, I doubt if his life
expectancy has changed at all! I guess if you are fortunate to live long
enough, you will be "fortunate" enough to experience all sorts of medical
problems!!!

Mel

> > OK folks -- I can use some advice regarding my father.
> >
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> Hugs for now.
> J
SETWRL7161 - 30 Apr 2004 16:21 GMT
if the cancer has spreaded i would not do chemo . my husband of 43 yrs had
colon cancer 7 yrs ago  we found out after he started having a hard time
breathing and dr put him on oxgen sept16  there was trouble dr kept treating
him for heart failure that it was  lung cancer . didnt find out until dr
finally did a cat scan oct 26 that he had lung cancer, stage 4 they said radio
and chemo might slow it down it didnt he dide 2 1/2 mos after they told him  i
wonder if he had not had chemo if he could lived longer so i dont advise anyone
to go for chemo  it will shorten his lfe and make him sicker  . wished i could
talked mine out of it he had 14 radio treatments 3 chemo they told him it wasnt
working he died 2 days later went though so much pain so let dad have a decent
life if it hsa spreaded   dr wouldnt see my husband for 6 mo said he was doing
good   not so   god bles u and u family  
MB - 30 Apr 2004 17:23 GMT
Thank you.
I want my father to enjoy his remaining time with minimal suffering.

MB

> if the cancer has spreaded i would not do chemo . my husband of 43 yrs had
> colon cancer 7 yrs ago  we found out after he started having a hard time
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> life if it hsa spreaded   dr wouldnt see my husband for 6 mo said he was doing
> good   not so   god bles u and u family
 
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