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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Cancer / May 2004Low BP
I went to my Endo's on friday, and my blood pressure was 90 over 60. They rechecked before I left and it went to 110 over 60. The doctor ran other tests to see if he could find the cause. Still wait for those test results. On Monday morning my hubby had to take me to the ER. I was having severe stomach cramps,diarreha and no energy. They also found blood in my urine. They did a CT, and saw what could be kidney stones, but can't say for sure. They doctor said it could be from all the sugeries I've had. My blood pressure went up because of the pain and then went back down after they treated me for that. They try to keep me hyper, because of the thyroid cancer. Which I would think would make my BP higher? The ER doctor said it could be a virus, from the symptoms I was having, but would have to do a follow up on the blood in my urine. What can I do to find out? If I had kidney stones, wouldn't it have shown up when they did my CT and PET scans in late Feb.? I'm still not feeling like myself. At least the stomach cramps are gone for now. Any idea's. Anything I should ask the doctors. Jill > I went to my Endo's on friday, and my blood pressure was 90 over 60. > They rechecked before I left and it went to 110 over 60. The doctor [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Jill Sorry to hear that you are having a tough time right now Jill, I am not a medic so cannot give you any answers, but I can offer you a hug right now and hope that they get to the bottom of it and sort you out again. Hugs Alayne > > I went to my Endo's on friday, and my blood pressure was 90 over 60. > > They rechecked before I left and it went to 110 over 60. The doctor [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Alayne Thanks and right back at you sweetie. Jill > I went to my Endo's on friday, and my blood pressure was 90 over 60. > They rechecked before I left and it went to 110 over 60. The doctor [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Jill Hi Jill, I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling poorly. Just how "hyper' are they keeping you? Both kidney and hyperthyroid can cause high blood pressure http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/highblood/ http://www.medicinenet.com/Hyperthyroidism/page2.htm But your BP levels don't seem too abnormal http://www.lifeclinic.com/focus/blood/whatisit.asp Mine's been 90/60. I think it was before the colonoscopy that the nurse showed concern because it was 80/60 (if I recall correctly). Kidney stones can be so small that they pass on their own or larger so it's hard to say what they're seeing on the various scans (or not) http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/stonesadults/ Several of the above (websites) mention some glands in the neck to do with hyperparathyroidism so I would wonder if your thyroid cancer (or prior treatments) is affecting or affected by them ? Maybe the above will give you some ideas of what to ask about? I also have another article about the heart, thyroid, stress and kidneys, but I can't find it right now. I know where it is in the Google archives, but Google's saying "no" to me at the moment, so I'll have to look for it later Many hugs to you Jill, hope they can help you to be more comfortable and eventually answer some of your questions. J > <snip>Maybe the above will give you some ideas of what to ask about? > I also have another article about the heart, thyroid, stress and kidneys, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > eventually answer some of your questions. > J Hi Jill, I can't find the other article. (wish I'd saved it). I do know from reading sci.med and talking to people who've had stones, it's very painful. So hopefully if that's what you have, there's a solution. Many hugs for you. J > > <snip>Maybe the above will give you some ideas of what to ask about? > > I also have another article about the heart, thyroid, stress and kidneys, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Many hugs for you. > J Thanks J, I'm such a mess. <g> I have always had low BP. The cramps were more like from food poison. Hopefully I will know more Friday, after the UA. Thanks for the links. As my little neighbor boy would say,"you're awesome" Hugs, Jill > I'm such a mess. <g> Welcome to the club. <g> I've heard every theory in the book ! The crazy thing is to stop/prevent the pains, I have to eat even when I'm not hungry. Geez.... Since I haven't been hungry for almost 2 years now (with a few exceptional days), if it weren't for that, I could now be an anorexic-looking model making big bucks <smile> > I have always had low BP. Well me too, low-normal and I always thought or was told it went along with "hypothyroid". > The cramps were more > like from food poison. Oh I see. You weren't having kidney pains. > Hopefully I will know more Friday, after the > UA. What's a UA? (please) > Thanks for the links. > As my little neighbor boy would say,"you're awesome" Gee thanks ! Too bad I can't figure out what's wrong with you and me. <smile> Many hugs Jill. J > > I'm such a mess. <g> > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Since I haven't been hungry for almost 2 years now (with a few exceptional days), if it > weren't for that, I could now be an anorexic-looking model making big bucks <smile> Well I'm a big healthy looking girl, don't eat a lot, but it looks like I do. <g> > > I have always had low BP. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Oh I see. You weren't having kidney pains. No kidney pains or fever. > > Hopefully I will know more Friday, after the > > UA. > > What's a UA? (please) Urine Analysis - Hope I spelled that right. > > Thanks for the links. > > As my little neighbor boy would say,"you're awesome" > > Gee thanks ! Too bad I can't figure out what's wrong with you and me. <smile> > Many hugs Jill. > J That would be a full time job for you, just figuring me out. I would be job security. <g> Hugs, Jill > Well I'm a big healthy looking girl, don't eat a lot, > but it looks like I do. <g> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > That would be a full time job for you, just figuring me out. > I would be job security. <g> Thanks for explaining Jill. You mean you'll be my bodyguard? I think I'll need one and I can't think of a better one. Any update hun? Hugs J > They did a CT, and saw what could be kidney stones, but can't say for > sure. > They doctor said it could be from all the surgeries I've had. umm.... Theory # 1 - adhesions? (I don't know that they can be seen on CT - or any imaging) http://www.valis.com/andi/endo/definition.html Endometriosis causes the development of scar tissue known as adhesions. They can be thin and filmy or thick, opaque and ropey. Dense adhesions are often vascularized, that is, supplied with their own blood vessels. Dense adhesions and invasive endometriosis go hand-in-hand. When dense adhesions fill the space between the vagina and rectum, it is described as an "obliterated cul-de-sac." In severe endometriosis the pelvic cavity is filled with lesions and scar tissue, with the pelvic organs bound to one another by adhesions. This is known as a "frozen pelvis." The trauma, scarring, and excess prostaglandin production can cause a variety of symptoms including: severe menstrual pain, abdominal pain, lower back pain, nausea, diarrhea, intestinal cramping, leg pain, and pain during sexual arousal and intercourse. When implants affect the bowel, there can be diarrhea, constipation, cyclic rectal bleeding and in extreme cases bowel obstruction. Implants on the bladder and/or ureters can cause symptoms of cystitis, blood in the urine, and other urinary tract problems. Adhesions can twist, compress, stretch and distort the abdominal and pelvic organs. This can cause severe pain, especially a pulling sensation. Adhesions can interfere with the normal function of the organs, causing bowel obstruction, urinary retention, infertility, or other malfunction depending on the organ affected. Theory # 2 - somebody during one of your surgeries failed to remove something they were supposed to? Do they have preoperative CT-scans to compare to? J > > They did a CT, and saw what could be kidney stones, but can't say for > > sure. [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Theory # 2 - somebody during one of your surgeries failed to remove > something they were supposed to? That wouldn't surpise me. But I hope not. > Do they have preoperative CT-scans to compare to? > J Quite a few CT scans. I hope they can figure it out. I have been have problems with my bladder leaking, since before my surgery. I thought it was from the mass,pushing on something important. But it didn't get better after the surgery. That therory proved wrong. <g> Well I never had any normal or typical health problems or symptoms, so if it could be strange or different, that's me. < big grin> You sure have giving me something to discuss with the Doctor. Thanks Sweetie, Big Jill Hugs coming at You. > Quite a few CT scans. I hope they can figure it out. I have been have > problems with my bladder leaking, since before my surgery. I thought [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > You sure have giving me something to discuss with the Doctor. Thanks for the hugs Jill. I have some other ideas (in my bag of tricks), but I'm holding back, until you've exhausted most investigations or ruled some things out. Women are complicated enough (hormones) and gets more complicated after surgeries (sometimes/often). I was thinking that if you could do a diary of when it happens, if movements or cough make it worse (or not). During sleep? (etc) - might be very helpful for if you're referred to a different type of specialist. (uro-gynaecologist?) More J-hugs for ( ( ( Jill ) ) ) > > Quite a few CT scans. I hope they can figure it out. I have been have > > problems with my bladder leaking, since before my surgery. I thought [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > More J-hugs for ( ( ( Jill ) ) ) You are so right about all of that. Well I'm sheduled to see a urologist Friday. When I went to the Doctor's, there was still blood in my urine. So he was a little concerned. He thought we should look in to it. Thanks for the suggestions, I never thought to do that. Hugs for my J, Jill > J said<snip> > >- might be very helpful for if you're referred to a different type of specialist. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Doctor's, there was still blood in my urine. So he was a little > concerned. He thought we should look in to it. Hellooooooooooo Jill. Gad, are they picking on me or what? It takes away my time from the others here. I've so wanted to do a roll-call but how can I possibly do that when these "idiots" keep taking up my time. Anyhow, I'm glad you're persistant and stay with me. A urologist sounds like a good start. Maybe such in the US also knows women stuff (gynae). I mentioned Urogynaecologist. Perhaps the difference is in the types of surgeries they do. (I forget). I do know when there's problems after "female type" surgeries that's (sometimes) the type of doctor we are referred to here. There's some mention here of some problems..haematuria is blood in the urine http://www.rwh.org.au/rwhcpg/womenshealth.cfm?doc_id=3661 and the types of specialists and some of the questions they might ask. There are several tests they might do. A cystoscope to look in your bladder. Ever had that before? (it's not really too uncomfortable). I think they can also take the urine right out of the bladder to make sure the blood isn't coming from outside the urinary system. (unless there's a breach somewhere higher up of the urinary system). There's quite a bit mentioned here ( some possible causes) http://www.london-urology.co.uk/haematuria.htm I just slapped my forehead...perhaps that's why your BP is low? blood loss...sometimes it can start much earlier but not noticeable until it can be seen by the visible eye. http://www.medicinenet.com/Low_Blood_Pressure/article.htm I'm glad your doctor is looking after you. Hopefully they'll find the problem and it can be sorted out easily. Hugs, my dear Jill J > > J said<snip> > > >- might be very helpful for if you're referred to a different type of specialist. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > taking up my time. > Anyhow, I'm glad you're persistant and stay with me. Oh, I'll stay with you. I noticed they were giving you a hard time. I thought you handled them well. I'm sorry you have had to deal with these morons. If they only knew there is a cure for stupidity.<g> > A urologist sounds like a good start. Maybe such in the US also knows women stuff (gynae). > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > There are several tests they might do. A cystoscope to look in your bladder. Ever had that > before? (it's not really too uncomfortable). The dotor did mention that they might have to do just that. I'm glad it not so bad. I kept saying to myself, It can't be the worst thing they've done to me. <g> > I think they can also take the urine right out of the bladder to make sure the blood isn't > coming from outside the urinary system. (unless there's a breach somewhere higher up of the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > can start much earlier but not noticeable until it can be seen by the visible eye. > http://www.medicinenet.com/Low_Blood_Pressure/article.htm You know, I was wondering about the loss of blood and the BP, but the dostor's haven't lead me to think, one has anything to do with the other. I don't know if your Doctor's there are like the one here, but they don't like giving out to much info. It's like pulling teeth sometimes. I think they don't like geussing. > I'm glad your doctor is looking after you. Hopefully they'll find the problem and it can be > sorted out easily. > Hugs, my dear Jill > J I'm glad you stick with us, even though you have to deal with all the bull. I just hope you know that there are enough of us here, who love you. And that will make up for it. ((((J)))) Love You Sweetie, Jill > J <Me333@privacy.net> wrote in message news:... > >A cystoscope to look in your bladder. Ever had that [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Love You Sweetie, > Jill Hi Jill, Perhaps then the bleeding has nothing to do with the BP. The ones that you posted, seemed to be in the normal ranges (based on that website), or appeared to me to be. And yes, it's important that they get to the root of the cause of the bleeding. (if possible). And yes, it's sometimes difficult here to get information from doctors, mostly because they don't have time or don't know (or don't want to conjecture) until some tests have been run. I know though that it leaves us wondering if they have ideas about what could be causing it but aren't saying... frustrating isn't it? And doctors don't always like "internet information" and self-diagnosing. I was able to explain to my doctor that doing such allows us to make a list of potentials and cross off the ones that can safely be ruled out, so a narrowing down process, which to me saves us unnecessary tests and procedures. I feel badly for you, that you have to go through more procedures. Hopefully, they won't be too intrusive and you'll have some answers maybe by early next week. Are you able to work through this? How's hubby doing? still liking his new job? Have you ever heard of Kegel's? It's an exercise, as long as it doesn't cause you any pain or more bleeding. http://www.americangeriatrics.org/products/ui/toolkit.htm Gotta go <smile> Hugs to you Jill J > > J <Me333@privacy.net> wrote in message news:... > > >A cystoscope to look in your bladder. Ever had that [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > aren't saying... > frustrating isn't it? Yes it is ! > And doctors don't always like "internet information" and self-diagnosing. I was able to explain > to my doctor that doing such allows us to make a list of potentials and cross off the ones that > can safely be ruled out, so a narrowing down process, which to me saves us unnecessary tests and > procedures. That would be me too. Better to have some info, than none. > I feel badly for you, that you have to go through more procedures. > Hopefully, they won't be too intrusive and you'll have some answers maybe by early next week. It's sad to say, but I'm use to it. > Are you able to work through this? How's hubby doing? still liking his new job? Not working a job at this time. We are moving in a few weeks, which is keeping me busy. The hubby left this morning. He was suppose to leave last week. The day I went to the hospital. So his company let him stay home longer. He got to spend time with his Dad & me, so he was happy. He loves his job, just wishes he could be home more. We went on a poker run, you ride your motorcycle to different places and collect cards. It was to help raise money for a little 2 year old with brain cancer. Makes us remember how lucky we are. > Have you ever heard of Kegel's? It's an exercise, as long as it doesn't cause you any pain or more > bleeding. > http://www.americangeriatrics.org/products/ui/toolkit.htm Thanks for the link. > Gotta go <smile> > Hugs to you Jill > J Hugs J, Jill > > I feel badly for you, that you have to go through more procedures. > > Hopefully, they won't be too intrusive and you'll have some answers maybe by early next week. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > with brain cancer. > Makes us remember how lucky we are. Goodness me, in the middle of these health problems and moving, you find the time to help a 2 year old. That's so good of you Jill. I'm glad your hubby was able to stay home for you when you went to the hospital. I remember last year when you wanted to get the RAI done with so you could get back to work. It's been one complication and delay after another. I sure hope they get this cleared up soon for you. In the meantime, keep that chin up and be careful if you're packing/moving heavy boxes. Hugs to you, moving isn't easy. J > > > I feel badly for you, that you have to go through more procedures. > > > Hopefully, they won't be too intrusive and you'll have some answers maybe by early next week. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > Hugs to you, moving isn't easy. > J Giving back makes me feel so good. I have a lot of good people in my corner, and my Mom always taught me to share. I mean this from the bottom of my heart, "You're my favorite duck, in my puddle." And a big thanks for caring. ((((J)))) Jill > Giving back makes me feel so good. I have a lot of good people in my > corner, and my Mom always taught me to share. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > ((((J)))) > Jill Thank you Jill, as long as you don't send a retriever after me ;-) Hugs Jill, hope all goes well tomorrow. J > > Giving back makes me feel so good. I have a lot of good people in my > > corner, and my Mom always taught me to share. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Hugs Jill, hope all goes well tomorrow. > J What a picture that makes!!! (>: Phyllis Those of us who know you J, are with you. We know that you work hard for us, and we also know who has their head in the ostrich hole! Take Care, don't bother fighting with windbags anymore, a strong gust will soon take them away, all that is needed is time! Salisha > Those of us who know you J, are with you. We know that you work hard for > us, and we also know who has their head in the ostrich hole! > Take Care, don't bother fighting with windbags anymore, a strong gust will > soon take them away, all that is needed is time! > Salisha Yes, and let that wind be a tornado or tsunami! LOL Lily Mae > They did a CT, and saw what could be kidney stones, but can't say for > sure. Back to an older post, Jill. Someone on the other cancer newsgroup replied to a poster that only kidney stones of 1 cm or larger can be seen by CT. FYI and FWIW (I don't know who the replier is - qualifications etc.). J |
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