J,
I'm sorry if I ticked you off with my post. It wasn't meant to do so.
I was just trying to reply to Stew with a few answers about his
Lymphoma diagnosis and planned treatments. I shared some of what it
was like for me duing my treatments. I did post a link to the shirt I
had designed. I thought it was appropriate - chemo related. So yean,
the link was promotional, but I didn't think of it as spam. I thought
Stew might get a kick out of it. I wanted him to keep his sense of
humor through all of this, because it won't be easy.
I'm no spammer. I'm no poser either. I'm just a guy who survived,
who's trying to make a difference. www.mullhouse.net/bb - that's my
personal website's message board. Anyone who wants to check me out as
being legit is quite welcome to visit. You'll find some pictures of a
skinny bald guy up there - posts about my ANC and HGB values - just
how painful a big shot of neupogen can be - pictures from fund raising
events like the Lympoma & Leukemia Society's Light The Night Walk -
how much I hate chemo side-effects - you name it - it's all there.
I'd like to ask a few questions about your reply if you don't mind.
I'm not challenging your post - I'm a straight shooter - I'm just
curious and would like to know more. If you wish to reply offline via
email, larry@mullhouse.net is my personal email address.
>You posted once and I asked the team about it and it was deemed to be spam.
Who is the "team?" This isn't a moderated newsgroup, so I'm wondering
what that's about.
>Two people reposted it (again) at someone else's request.
Can you explain what you mean by this "reposted" statement? I posted
my original "I laughed in cancer's face" message. I never saw it
reposted by anyone. Maybe it's been a while since I've been on
newsgroups and I'm just clueless.
>I'm asking you to stop now.
So no URL's to my site in any messages? Ok. It'd have been helpful
if you had stated why - as in the FAQ. I wasn't sure why you were
upset. I did reload the news group and I found a FAQ posted about 6
wks ago. I read the "no advertising" stuff there.
>You can approach cancer centres and ask them if they'd be willing to sell
>them in their stores.
>I don't know you from (as they say) a "hole in the wall" since I cannot find
>any posting history prior to your posting this website.
Ok, that was my first post here. I thought I'd share a story of
surviving. It was how I went from cancer patient to cancer fighter.
I've read plenty of posts on message boards, forums, newsgroups, etc,
of people suffering, dying. It's damn hard to take sometimes. Not
long ago, I read a post about a girl who used the id JustSophie. In
15 minutes, I went from meeting her to her dying. I cried. Sixteen
year old girls aren't supposed to die from cancer. That made me think
- why not post a story that's positive. People need hope, they need
inspiration. I kinda thought that a post about a guy who went on the
offensive, after having been put on the defensive just to save his
life, I thought it'd be a good read. And I wanted people here to see
the site. Yeah - the cancer community is the target market, but I
just wanted them to see it. I'm proud of it. And maybe I can inspire
someone to do something similar, something positive, to be involved in
fighting cancer. That's better than any sale.
>Cancer centres an/door the American Cancer Society can check you out and
>endorse you as a contributor.
>
>If you post this website again (and/or repeatedly), the team will likely send
>complaints about you.
Just curious - where would complaints be sent to?
>If you post just once a month, I might overlook it.
So it's ok to post, but just not too often??? I posted *just once*
and you "deemed it to be spam." My second (or maybe my 3rd) post,
which was a reply to Stew - a guy I can relate to because he has a
very similar dx to my own - and you're ready to call the dogs in after
me! ;-)
I'm not trying to start a fight - I just want to be clear on what's
what. The faq states "strictly prohibitive". Obviously you do not
want me to actively promote, and I can abide by that. I don't wish to
cause trouble. I want to help - just like you are. I just want to do
my part to fight cancer the best I can. My posts here won't include a
URL to the site, nor will I promote it. If there's a place for it on
the FAQ, under the resources URLs listed, it'd be cool to have it
included there. If not, that's fine too.
I guess the raising money thing is just what I do. Heck, today I
helped Komen w/the Drive for a Cure. In a month, its the Relay for
Life walk - done it before, but never as a survivor! Then it's time
for "Larry's Lymphomaniacs" to team up for the Leukemia & Lymphoma
Society. And I'm sure I'll be running again by the time the Race for
the Cure comes to town again. So I get it instinctively I suppose!
Call me "dude for a cure" if you like! ;-)
--
Larry
www.gotCancer.org - Laughing in cancer's face!
Alayne - 09 Apr 2004 09:53 GMT
> J,
> I'm sorry if I ticked you off with my post. It wasn't meant to do so.
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> Larry
> www.gotCancer.org - Laughing in cancer's face!
Hi Larry,
I've just had a quick peep at your web-site and must say that I was rather
impressed, I haven't the time right now to take a longer look (too busy
packing my motorbike for a rally!) but first impressions are that you faced
your battle with a ready smile and a positive attitude - and I applaud you
for that (although your "haircut" wasn't a "patch" on my husbands! - he had
30 zaps of radiotherapy and carried a second hand jig-saw style (with
several pieces missing!), sadly "Brian the Tumour" was more of a man than he
was, but it is good to hear a survivors story.
Hugs
Alayne
LarryM - 09 Apr 2004 17:20 GMT
>I've just had a quick peep at your web-site and must say that I was rather
>impressed, I haven't the time right now to take a longer look (too busy
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>
>Alayne
Thanks for the complement Alayne! So far, it's putting a big smile on
my face and I hope it's doing the same for others out there!
I don't want to go off topic on Stew's thread, but I'd like to say I'm
sorry to hear about your husband. Sounds like you two kept your
spirits up, esp when I read the word play on "Brian the tumor!"
Take care and I'll see you on the group.
--
Larry...the patient formerly known as Lympho Larry!
Rose - 09 Apr 2004 13:03 GMT
I applaud Your courage, sense of humor, and your fight against Lymphoma.
Keep it up. and I found nothing WRONG with your post. Rose
J - 09 Apr 2004 13:30 GMT
> I applaud Your courage, sense of humor, and your fight against Lymphoma.
> Keep it up. and I found nothing WRONG with your post. Rose
Do you understand what a newsgroup Charter is?
http://www.cancersupporters.com/asc/charter.html
What is strictly prohibited on this newsgroup?
Commercial advertising is prohibited.
J
Rose - 09 Apr 2004 13:44 GMT
I feel in this case you jumped on Larry for no reason. He was only
trying to help and give a humorous side of "his" ordeal. I realize that
there are many spammers and nit-wits that come in here to sell their
stuff or to just be a pain in the a.s, But you cant keep every person
who wants to voice "their opinion" censored. I have been reading the
wonderful and helpful job you have been doing but in this case IMO you
are wrong to have said that to Larry. Rose
LarryM - 14 Apr 2004 16:36 GMT
J,
I looked for a reply on both the NG and in my email. I was sincere in
my questions and discussion on the topic. The original message is
quoted below.
To the point, the most confusing thing is that the charter says no
advertising but you say that you might be willing to overlook a
promotional gotCancer.org post as long as it's only once a month.
I've been thinking, what about a subheading abbreviation for those of
us who are legit in our promotion for cancer related sites? Spammers
will blast out their V.i.a.g.r.a. ads regardless of any policy that
you may promote. The posters/readers just have to deal with that.
That's just how a public newsgroup has to operate.
What if a new subheading is added, like [AD]? I could post my monthly
newsletter, for instance, using it. Those who don't care - they can
ignore it or they could easily killfile it.
Anyone who has spent the time to read the group will see that [AD]
would be used for cancer related ads. It wouldn't matter if it's me
or Genentech or my mother-in-law who wants to advertise that she will
knit you a cap for your bald head - we're all promoting cancer related
goods that most of the cancer community would likely find of interest,
to some degree.
Personally, I think that would be a better solution that suits us all.
If that's not favorable, I suppose I could do something like posting
with the subject "April Newsletter from gotCancer.org".
What do you think? I welcome input from anyone else who has read this
post.
I believe in what I'm doing, as to date, regardless of rules and such,
I've gotten a lot of support - from complements to purchases. I even
have some great contacts who are willing to help out as well, with
ideas and in promotion. That goes right back to my desire to make the
site "for the cancer community, by the cancer community." We are the
people who have been touched by cancer - who better to help make a
difference!
I look forward to any responses, especailly yours J,
Larry
Just because I'm a survivor
doesn't mean I have stopped
fighting cancer!
>J,
>I'm sorry if I ticked you off with my post. It wasn't meant to do so.
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>
>Call me "dude for a cure" if you like! ;-)
--
Larry...the patient formerly known as Lympho Larry!
J - 14 Apr 2004 18:12 GMT
> J,
>
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> advertising but you say that you might be willing to overlook a
> promotional gotCancer.org post as long as it's only once a month.
That offer is withdrawn. And thank you for confirming that you have read the "no
advertising" part of the Charter.
http://www.cancersupporters.com/asc/charter.html
J