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New Support of Explanation of Breast Cancer: Smoking and Breast Cancer

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James Michael Howard - 07 Jan 2004 22:10 GMT
New Support of Explanation of Breast Cancer

Copyright 2003, James Michael Howard, Fayetteville, Arkansas, U.S.A.

Two articles add support to my hypothesis regarding testosterone in women and
breast cancer.  (Find "An Explanation of Cancer and the Increase in Cancer,"
about the middle of www.anthropogeny.com/physiology.html .)  That is, I suggest
increased testosterone is involved in triggering cancer, including female breast
cancer.  In the first article from the January, 2004, Journal of the National
Cancer Institute, U.S.A., you will read the finding that "active smoking may
play a role in breast cancer etiology."  The second article demonstrates that
smoking in women is connected with increased testosterone.  "Current smokers had
the highest testosterone concentrations with decreasing values in former and
nonsmokers (p = 0.0001)."   Again, I suggest this adds support to my explanation
of the mechanism of cancer and I invite you read my article.
Kaye301 - 08 Jan 2004 00:27 GMT
jmhoward wrote: << I suggest
increased testosterone is involved in triggering cancer, including female
breast
cancer.  In the first article from the January, 2004, Journal of the National
Cancer Institute,  >>

I won't argue that there may be a connection between testosterone levels and
its association with breast cancer, and I don't have any information re. women,
smoking, and testosterone levels so can't really comment about that.  However,
I have never smoked and avoid being around those that do (which is not hard to
do in California), but I still got breast cancer and have had higher than
normal testosterone levels.  I am not sure if other females in my family have
or had the same, but I suspect that in my case it may be genetic.   I believe
women who have polycystic ovaries also have higher than normal testosterone
levels and also have an increased risk of developing breast cancer.  Again, I
don't know if female smokers do or don't have higher estrogen levels but
suspect that even if there was some increase that it is not across the board.
In addition not all female smokers get breast cancer.  I am thinking of my
husband's aunt who smoked heavily.  She did develp cancer--pancreatic
cancer--but not until the age of 85.
James Michael Howard - 08 Jan 2004 13:13 GMT
>jmhoward wrote: << I suggest
>increased testosterone is involved in triggering cancer, including female
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>husband's aunt who smoked heavily.  She did develp cancer--pancreatic
>cancer--but not until the age of 85.

Thank you for your response.  In my original post to this newsgroup, I included
a working url for my explanation in detail.  I invite you to go there to read my
article.  All supporting citations are there.  However, since you responded, I
will answer your statements / questions.  In 2002, the Journal of the National
Cancer Institute U.S.A. said that "testosterone might be more strongly
associated with [breast cancer] risk than estradiol."  (citation at page)  Also
on my page, I suggest that my mechanism triggers "oncogenes," cancer genes.  One
does not have to smoke for this mechanism to trigger breast cancer oncogenes,
one has to have high testosterone and low DHEA, with low DHEA being the key.
(In fact the 2004 JNCI article that caused me to repost my explanation of breast
and smoking found that second hand smoke has no relationship with breast cancer,
only smoking in women.)  Since smoking does increase testosterone in women, the
smoking is connected with breast cancer in women who have the oncogenes.  Yes,
increased levels of free testosterone are part of pos and, if a woman's family
has breast cancer oncogenes, there is increased risk of breast cancer in pos.
Yes, not all female smokers get breast cancer; they are more likely if breast
cancer genes are in their families just like in pos.  

My mechanism also explains the increased cancer of old age as due to low DHEA.

James Michael Howard
Kaye301 - 08 Jan 2004 16:15 GMT
jm howard <<  In 2002, the Journal of the National
Cancer Institute U.S.A. said that "testosterone might be more strongly
associated with [breast cancer] risk than estradiol." >>

I do not disagree that testosterone may be more associated with breast cancer
than other hormones, although not necessarily estradiol.  What about estrogen?
Anyway, I did ask that question at the time of my dx or at least at some point
when my testosterone levels were higher.  I was not given an answer.  I then
tried to research it.  I was quite surprised to learn that many knew that
higher levels of testosterone were associated with an increased risk of breast
cancer and that many older women who got breast cancer had higher levels of
such.  However, there has been almost no medical research in this area?  Why?
Is it because of the social implications of testosterone and that, at least in
the past, science research and related funding has had a male dominated  field?
The effects of smoking may be a trigger for some and is not as far-fetched as
the suggestion that someone recently made that breast cancer is due to the
wearing of high heeled shoes, but it is not a definative trigger.  Not all
women with breast cancer, even ER+ breast cancer, have higher levels of
testosteron, and neither do all female smokers have higher levels of
testosterone.  And I am also quite sure that some smokers who have higher
levels of testosterone don't get breast cancer.  That doesn't mean that
testosterone levels aren't involved for some, though.
What does pos mean?
James Michael Howard - 08 Jan 2004 16:36 GMT
>jm howard <<  In 2002, the Journal of the National
>Cancer Institute U.S.A. said that "testosterone might be more strongly
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>testosterone levels aren't involved for some, though.
>What does pos mean?

Estradiol is a one form of "female hormone" in the category "estrogen."  I
cannot explain why your physician was rude to you.  It is my idea that estradiol
increases cancer risk in the same manner as does testosterone.  You will have to
read the article to understand the mechanism.  Therefore, not all women with
breast cancer will exhibit higher testosterone levels.  Again, the research
reported: "Our study provides evidence that active smoking may play a role in
breast cancer etiology ..." (Journal of the National Cancer Institute, Vol. 96,
No. 1, 29-37, January 7, 2004).  You may choose to believe the findings or not.
One has to have an oncogene that may be triggered by this mechanism to begin
breast cancer.  Therefore, smoking, smoking induced increases in testosterone,
or simply having high testosterone does not mean one will have breast cancer.
Kaye301 - 08 Jan 2004 18:09 GMT
jmhoward wrote: << Estradiol is a one form of "female hormone" in the category
"estrogen."  I
cannot explain why your physician was rude to you.  It is my idea that
estradiol
increases cancer risk in the same manner as does testosterone.   >>

Huh???  I never said my physician was rude to me.  I am not sure where or how
you came up with that.  I did  imply that my physician had no understanding of
the role of testosterone and breast cancer.  That area does not appear to have
been researched much.  My thoughts are that it may be a sensitive area of
research because of associations re. 'testosterone' in a male-dominated field.

I<< Our study provides evidence that active smoking may play a role in
breast cancer etiology ..." (Journal of the National Cancer Institute, Vol. 96,
No. 1, 29-37, January 7, 2004).   >>

I don't disagree at all with the above. However, not all smokers develop higher
than normal testosterone levels, and as we both agree, not all women with high
levels of testosterone, who do develop cancer, with smokers.  There appears to
be a very strong causal relationship between hormonal breast cancer and higher
than normal levels of testosterone in women, irregardless of the cause.  Again,
I was quite surprised myself to learn that this area was not better researched.
And although estradiol and estrogen are hormonal agents they are the same and
do not react in the same way to intervention.
 
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