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allan grossman - 31 Dec 2003 19:38 GMT
Just got back from Dr. Smiley's office.  Deborah's CEA has risen from
1.6 to 4.9 in the past three months and CA 15-3 from 27 to 45 in the
same period.

So - we switched to Arimidex + Zoladex today.  Deborah has done
Zoladex once before but discontinues it because of power surges - but
that was two years ago.  Hopefully things will go a lot better this
time.  If she flunks the aromatase inhibitor it's back on chemo for us
- probably Xeloda.

At least it's better than not knowing - and it could have been a lot
worse  :)

A happy and healthy New Year to all y'all  :)
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Mary Fisher - 31 Dec 2003 21:25 GMT
> Just got back from Dr. Smiley's office.  Deborah's CEA has risen from
> 1.6 to 4.9 in the past three months and CA 15-3 from 27 to 45 in the
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> A happy and healthy New Year to all y'all  :)

And to you and Deborah and all our friends on this ng.

Mary
Lisasbucc - 01 Jan 2004 15:07 GMT
Mary wrote:

>And to you and Deborah and all our friends on this ng.

Yeah, what Mary said.

...lisa
A. P. Thorsen - 31 Dec 2003 21:29 GMT
> Just got back from Dr. Smiley's office.  Deborah's CEA has risen from
> 1.6 to 4.9 in the past three months and CA 15-3 from 27 to 45 in the
> same period.
>
> So - we switched to Arimidex + Zoladex today.

I'm sorry to hear that Deborah's markers are up, Allan!  If well-wishes
can help, please know that I'm intently beaming positive thoughts her
way.  Here's hoping the new regimen will (1) have few/no side effects
this time around, and (2) whip those numbers back into shape again!

Please say "howdy" to her for me.  Best wishes to you both in this new year!

Ann T.
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allan grossman - 31 Dec 2003 21:52 GMT
>Please say "howdy" to her for me.  Best wishes to you both in this new year!

She says 'howdy' back, Ann.  Happy new year to all  :)
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ABdikjse - 01 Jan 2004 00:45 GMT
Allan,

I wish you and Deborah all the good your lives can hold and will keep you in
prayer. But I really take exception at something you inadvertently said --

"Hopefully things will go a lot better this
time.  If <<<<she>>>> flunks the aromatase inhibitor it's back on chemo for us
- probably Xeloda."

IMHO, the patient doesn't flunk anything. --I know this is 'medical jargon' --
but thinking in these terms could also be considered down-putting and
unnecessary, especially with all that Deborah and many others have  been
through fighting this damned disease.

The point is: the DRUGS have flunked the patient  NOT the other way around.

Sorry, but it just gets me so mad when I hear  kind of terminology. Cancer is
not that kind of a 'test'. --One of my buttons I guess.

May you have a healthier and rewarding new year.

God bless,
Lady8
allan grossman - 01 Jan 2004 04:22 GMT
>May you have a healthier and rewarding new year.

And the same to you, Lady8  :)

I didn't mean to offend - cancer isn't a test.  'Flunking chemo' is a
figure of speech.
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Alexandra Koffman - 01 Jan 2004 17:23 GMT
Sorry to hear about Deborah's tumor markers. She did so well on herceptin -
can they give her anymore - or did she build up a resistance/
Anyways I wish you 2 the best for the new year.Alex
allan grossman - 01 Jan 2004 18:25 GMT
>Sorry to hear about Deborah's tumor markers. She did so well on herceptin -
>can they give her anymore - or did she build up a resistance/
>Anyways I wish you 2 the best for the new year.Alex

I'm afraid most of the time it doesn't work that way - usually they
use a drug until it's killed everything it can kill - and tumor cells
that are left are generally resistant to that drug combination, and so
are cells that multiply from those drug-resistant cells.  That's why
they switch to new treatments instead of revisiting old ones.

It sure is a nice thought, though  :)
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Alexandra Koffman - 01 Jan 2004 22:38 GMT
That's a shame but makes perfect sense...I was kind of hoping that they took
her off the herceptin and leaving it in reserve. I will keep my fingers
crossed that the new treatment goes well. Alex

> >Sorry to hear about Deborah's tumor markers. She did so well on herceptin -
> >can they give her anymore - or did she build up a resistance/
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Barb - 01 Jan 2004 01:01 GMT
> A happy and healthy New Year to all y'all  :)

Hello Deborah and Allan,

Darn!  Will be holding you in thought and prayer as Deborah begins some more
treatment.....Wishing you best possible result, with few/no side effects.
Health and happiness in the new year!

Barb
Tim Jackson - 01 Jan 2004 01:30 GMT
> A happy and healthy New Year to all y'all  :)
> --

Happy New Year to you and everyone.

Its 2004 here already, don't hang about, come on in, the water's lovely.

Tim
Mary Fisher - 01 Jan 2004 18:50 GMT
> > A happy and healthy New Year to all y'all  :)
> > --
> >
> Happy New Year to you and everyone.
>
> Its 2004 here already, don't hang about, come on in, the water's lovely.

It was snowing here, 6" - didn't you get it?

It was very beautiful but I didn't want to go in ... Bbbrrrrrrrrrrrrr
.........

Mary

> Tim
Tim Jackson - 01 Jan 2004 23:51 GMT
> > Happy New Year to you and everyone.
> > Its 2004 here already, don't hang about, come on in, the water's lovely.
>
> It was snowing here, 6" - didn't you get it?
> It was very beautiful but I didn't want to go in ... Bbbrrrrrrrrrrrrr
> .........

Well, when water is frozen into air-grown crystals it is lovely.

It was packed into a less-than-lovely humanoid form by the hands of my
daughter and her friend while waiting for the strokes of midnight.

We didn't get a white Christmas but we sure got a white New Year.

Tim
Kaye301 - 02 Jan 2004 05:06 GMT
Hi Allan, again sorry to hear of the increase in tumor markers.  How is Deborah
feeling?  Hopefully, the change in hormonal treatments will be all that is
needed.  Does she have any other symptoms?  I was wondering--how old is
Deborah?
allan grossman - 02 Jan 2004 16:07 GMT
>Hi Allan, again sorry to hear of the increase in tumor markers.  How is Deborah
>feeling?  Hopefully, the change in hormonal treatments will be all that is
>needed.  Does she have any other symptoms?  I was wondering--how old is
>Deborah?

A change in treatments will hold things off for awhile, Kaye - but
there's not gonna be a cure unless something new and amazing comes
out, and we've already been the recipient of one minor miracle - it's
probably time I accepted that.

Deborah is 49 and asymptomatic but her CEA and CA15-3 are both on the
rise.  Her chest x-ray at the end of November was clear and an
abdominal CT with contrast (last week) was clear also.  Her last bone
scan was in July and looked fine.  I'm afraid to ask for a skull CT
and Dr. Smiley hasn't suggested it.
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Kaye301 - 02 Jan 2004 19:27 GMT
<< A change in treatments will hold things off for awhile, Kaye - but
there's not gonna be a cure unless something new and amazing comes
out, and we've already been the recipient of one minor miracle - it's
probably time I accepted that. >>

Allan, it is a difficult time for you both, I am sure, but one never really
knows about b.c.  The norm doesn't have to happen to any one of us.  There are
always exceptions. I would like to recommend a new book--just published--THE
ANATOMY OF HOPE, by Jerome Groopman, M.D.  I found one chapter amazine--chapter
3, "The Right to Hope."  It talks of a physician, a pathologist, who
specialized in dx'ing stomach cancer, to develop that type of cancer himself.
He was given a  prognosis of 6 to 9 mos.  He decided to do everything against
character--or what he would have recommended for everyone else and did--he
decided to fight it with major treatment, enduring some very difficult times.
The chapter was written 13 years after that time---he was still around, doing
quite well considering, to interview
Kaye301 - 02 Jan 2004 19:44 GMT
Oops--accidentally sent before finishing....
Kaye wrote: << The chapter was written 13 years after that time---he was still
around, doing
quite well considering, to interview>>>

Allan, as you  know and has been discussed on this group we need to prepare for
the worst but expect the best--sorry for the cliche' but there is no way to
determine prognosis for sure.
Are you aware of the new vaccine clinical trials for those who are Her2+?  I
know of one gal who had it in Pennsylvania--who had mets to several areas and
went into complete remission such that scans were clear.  It might be something
to explore.  I believe it's called an autovac.  I have some info available.  If
intereted, let me know.   Take care and of course wishing both you and Deborah
all the best.  {{{Hugs}}}
 
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