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Tim Jackson - 19 Jan 2009 20:14 GMT
Looks like we've had no "genuine" posts so far in 2009, so belatedly,
Happy New Year everyone.

Tim Jackson
Eva - 20 Jan 2009 00:12 GMT
> Looks like we've had no "genuine" posts so far in 2009, so belatedly,
> Happy New Year everyone.
----------------
And the same to you.  Hope everyone's still alive and kickin'.  I'm grumpily
shoveling snow and trying to figure how I can watch our new President's
speech on my lunch hour tomorrow.

Eva
Alex - 25 Jan 2009 23:34 GMT
> > Happy New Year everyone.
>
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>
> Eva

Since Usenet has been pulled by many American ISPs it is painful to
find this group, and the best to everyone,
Alex
Barb - 27 Jan 2009 00:40 GMT
> Looks like we've had no "genuine" posts so far in 2009, so belatedly,
> Happy New Year everyone.
>
> Tim Jackson

Hello Tim, and happy new year to you too.  Hope you and your daughter
are well and happy.  I'm doing ok, thankfully.  It is very, very cold
and snowy in Pennsylvania these days, but I'm now retired and don't
have to go out in it unless I want to!

Hope that 2009 is kind to you and yours.

Barb
Mizz Marcia Ryder - 22 Feb 2009 02:32 GMT
> Looks like we've had no "genuine" posts so far in 2009, so belatedly,
> Happy New Year everyone.

Tim,
I've been without a news server for about 6 months or more.  Finally
got on one for a reasonable cost (as long as I keep my job !!).
I suspect that may be the cause of the drop in volume on the ngs.

Here's a genuine post from a happy NED poster:

dx BC 04/06; surgery 5/06;  chemo delayed when 2nd primary
(adrenal) found; adreanal surgery 07/06;  chemo for BC started
08/06 16 weeks; rad started 11/06 for 6 weeks.  I've been NED
so far.  Last Oct. (08) Rad Onc switched me from 6 mo to 1 yr
follow/up;  Last Dec. BC Onc switched me from 3 mo to 6 mo.
follow-up.  One scare last Sep.;  BC Onc sent me for MRI of
torso because he had noticed a slight enlargenment of the
bile ducts for 2 successive C/T scans but results were not
alarming to anyone, with a Dr. degree, that is.  Scared the
crap out of me! It did make me change my diet, though.
Now I need to get some exercise to get off the weight I
gained back from before this mess began.  Fortunately I have
not gained ALL of it back.  It has shifted, though to my
middle, which is likely age (55) but I wonder if some of
it is not due the side effect of Arimadex (sp?).

Cheers to everyone in 09 -- may the economy come back so
I can quit worrying.  Of course, it does take my mind off
cancer!

God Bless,
Marsha
Tim Jackson - 22 Feb 2009 10:53 GMT
>> Looks like we've had no "genuine" posts so far in 2009, so belatedly,
>> Happy New Year everyone.
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> God Bless,
> Marsha

Nice to here you are still NED Marsha.

It can be hard to tell over the  years what is drug side effects and
what is the ageing process or changes due to other causes.  I guess
there's no way to know, really, we only live once, and a sample of one
is no good to statistics.

I suppose you could see it as a silver lining of the recession that it
takes your mind off other worries, but rather in the way that a broken
arm takes your mind of a chipped fingernail.  I guess if you are going
to worry you are going to worry, it doesn't really matter what about.

Tim
Mizz Marcia Ryder - 22 Feb 2009 14:47 GMT
>>> Looks like we've had no "genuine" posts so far in 2009, so belatedly,
>>> Happy New Year everyone.
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> arm takes your mind of a chipped fingernail.  I guess if you are going
> to worry you are going to worry, it doesn't really matter what about.

Tim,
Actually I've been doing well in the worry category.  I have always felt
that any stress meeds to be mitigated. Just my personal opinion, but I
believe it to be a major contributing factor to ones physical health.

I think that more than average "concern" is an issue that cancer (or any
other serious medical condition) patients deal with but I'm happy to say
that I don't have even a frequent preoccupation with it.  I rely on
faith more than anything else.

Since my treatments I have a much more calm reaction to stressful
situations, except possibly recently in my job.  I keep telling myself
that I am blessed to have the work and the health to be able to do it.
While my employer falls into the Type B management style (benevolent) I
have seen evidence in the past that the physically weak get lumped into
the same category with the older workers when staff reduction time
comes.  I wouldn't dare admit any weakness, miss many days or complain.

Economic concerns comes to bear on it when one considers the possibility
of losing their job, ergo their insurance.  I have a very good job: now.

Today is beautiful, albeit cold, day in my little corner of the world
and I plan to enjoy it.

Marsha
Tim Jackson - 22 Feb 2009 15:12 GMT
>>>> Looks like we've had no "genuine" posts so far in 2009, so
>>>> belatedly, Happy New Year everyone.
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>
> Marsha

I'm sure stress levels have a lot to do with health, and probably
longevity.  A lot of it is to do with having control of our lives,
obviously illness and poverty are things that tend to wrest control from us.

Ageism in work is something that concerns me.  I find it hard to believe
that although I have a highly saleable skill and the world beats a path
to my door, were I not self employed, at my age (57) I would probably be
unable to get a job, and if I had one I would probably be forced to quit
at age 65.  And yet at the same time we are struggling to pay pensions
and health benefits to the ballooning class of the elderly.  It's daft.

Tim
Mizz Marcia Ryder - 23 Feb 2009 00:57 GMT
>>>>> Looks like we've had no "genuine" posts so far in 2009, so
>>>>> belatedly, Happy New Year everyone.

<snipped>

> I'm sure stress levels have a lot to do with health, and probably
> longevity.  A lot of it is to do with having control of our lives,
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> at age 65.  And yet at the same time we are struggling to pay pensions
> and health benefits to the ballooning class of the elderly.  It's daft.

Tim,
I know you have posted here a lot but I don't remember where you are
(I can chalk that up to mild chemo brain).  If you are in the US I think
you'd find that you'd probably be forced to quit at your current age.
My husband was forced out at 57 in 2000, a victim of right-sizing after
the tech bubble burst.  The company paid a firm to help them with job
hunting, networking, etc. I went to one of the spouse sessions with him
and it was awful.  My own boss was among the group so that was made
the session all the more depressing.  Their idea of helping that age
group was to send them to a job fair at a local university. You can
only imagine how interested the company reps at the fair were in
workers of their age.  One actually told him: "Well, gee, uh,
we're like really more interested more in young people right out of
school".  He reminded them that what they had just said was blatant
age discrimination.  But, what can you do?  The company postured the
bloodletting in advance by leaking to the press that they were getting
rid of dead wood and predominately those that didn't have the new
programming and design skills when in fact most of them did. So that
pretty much shot any local interviews they would have, well in advance.
  I understand a corporation needing to cut costs in bad times but they
virtually committed character assassinations.

I know any number of people my age and up that are still a viable group
of techs and actually like change and the challenge that new
technologies bring.  What's daft to me is that they don't keep some of
them on and beefing up our higher education standards to bring in our
own young work force rather than importing so much of it. The government
likes to claim the current and upcoming smaller work force is the
problem (as compared to we boomers) when what they need to admit is that
it's the shrinking number of trained legal workers.  I don't think any
US politicians are capable of changing healthcare in this country for
the better until they experience what we have now. As long as they have
their own cushy benefits and healthcare that differs from their
constituents, they will never understand the issues.

Oops, you made me break my resolution again!

Marsha
Tim Jackson - 23 Feb 2009 08:12 GMT
>>>>>> Looks like we've had no "genuine" posts so far in 2009, so
>>>>>> belatedly, Happy New Year everyone.
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>
> Marsha

Actually I'm in UK, but it's not much better here.

Under British law your husband would probably have been entitled to a
sizeable redundancy package if the company wanted to avoid a court case
for unfair dismissal. (Or "constructive dismissal" if he was pressured
into retiring "voluntarily".)  Whereas workers reaching 65 can legally
be dismissed without reason or compensation.

And of course while the British National Health Service may leave a lot
to be desired, I don't think anyone can argue that it doesn't provide
better care for the poor and the chronically sick than the US insurance
system.

Apart from those points, I would agree that everything else you say also
applies here.

Tim
Mizz Marcia Ryder - 26 Feb 2009 00:00 GMT
<snipped>

> Actually I'm in UK, but it's not much better here.
>
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> Apart from those points, I would agree that everything else you say also
> applies here.

I thought you were in the UK that's why I asked.

Actually another guy found a lawyer that agreed to a class action suit
and asked if my husband wanted to join as one of the original litigants
which would have meant we'd receive a larger judgment if the case had
won (don't know what happened and am presuming after 9 years that
nothing came of it.)  However, because I worked for the same company
he was afraid they might fire me out of retribution.  I don't think that
would have been the case since that would make the company look very
aggressive, which as I said earlier is not the nature or our management.
We just didn't want to take the chance.  His doctor told him it was
probably the best thing that ever happened to him.  After he "retired"
his high blood pressure was much more manageable.  Still psychologically
it was quite a blow for him (and me as well to some degree.)

Marsha
 
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