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Drug Companies and their "cure" search

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Gulffritallary - 09 Nov 2003 18:39 GMT
This is a posting from an alternative email list that I'm on:  

"Hi!  Here is an editorial today from the New York Times that is a perfect
analogy for what has been wrong with the drug companies.  If the drug companies
sat on a way to unclog the arteries,  the editorial writers want to know what
else they are "sitting" on. "  

A New Way to Unclog the ARTERIES
ast week's report of an experimental treatment that seems to remove plaque from
clogged arteries is potentially good news for legions of people threatened with
cardiovascular disease. If the findings can be verified in larger and longer
studies, the medical profession may have entered a new era in treatments to
ward off heart attacks and strokes. Yet this therapy might never have been
pursued were it not for a fluke discovery that made patenting possible.
Otherwise there would have been little financial incentive for any company to
develop the treatment for clinical use.
Although the results announced last week are more suggestive than conclusive,
they clearly have scientists excited. Intravenous infusions of a genetically
engineered protein actually caused fatty deposits on artery walls to diminish
in volume and thickness. The rate of reversal, after just five weekly
infusions, far exceeded anything previously achieved with drugs or diets used
for much longer periods. The substance infused contained a genetically
engineered variant of the key protein in high-density lipoprotein cholesterol,
the so-called good cholesterol.
For some time now, pharmaceutical companies have been trying to develop pills
that might stimulate the body to produce its own H.D.L. cholesterol, thus far
with no great success. An alternative approach, infusing H.D.L. cholesterol
directly into the body, was shown effective in animals more than a decade ago,
but the industry never really pursued it. One reason was that companies saw
little economic incentive in using a normal body protein for therapeutic
purposes, since it would be hard to gain patent protection. A medicine that
could be made and sold by anybody had little potential for profit. That problem
was circumvented in this case by using a mutant form of protein discovered
among some 40-plus inhabitants of a small Italian village. That made the drug
unique, and patentable.
Several companies are exploring different approaches to develop their own
H.D.L. pills or infusion therapy, increasing the likelihood that science may
find a new weapon against clogging of the arteries. That's good news. But the
fact that such a promising treatment was widely ignored because there was no
immediate profit potential is disturbing. In theory, the nation's great web of
government-financed medical research institutions should step in to promote
development of the kinds of drugs and therapy that industry regards as
unprofitable. This story makes one wonder how many similar gaps exist in the
vaunted American research establishment.
DRPace - 10 Nov 2003 16:42 GMT
I can  attest to the fact that the problem is much  more wide spread and perhaps
more sinister than that.   We have  had a new  product on the market for several
years that makes breast prostheses much more comfortable to wear.    You would
think that the retailers would jump at the chance to carry  it, but they don't
want  to,  apparently because,  for most women, our product eliminates the need to
wear mastectomy bras, which are much more profitable  to sell.  But the problem may
be even deeper than that.  Since introducing our product on the  internet  our
sales have not  increased at all and have been limited to four evenly spaced sets
of days  during each month, and  never  occur closer than four days apart.  This is
not the way  the marketplace works.   We  strongly suspect that our sales are under
some kind of very tight  third party control.  Fueling our suspicion in the fact
that some of  our major competitors operate their  own web servers and, presumably,
have access to hacking expertise.  There have been many  indications of such
activity  at our various web hosts over the years.

Our oldest son is a diabetic  and since he was diagnosed at five we have  always
encourage him to believe that one  day he would not need to take daily injections
or, at the very least,  have to poke his fingers many times a day.  Multi billion
dollar industries  exist around these two aspects of treatment,  so I am no longer
optimistic.  As an inventor I know that  there is no technical  problem that
cannot  be solved, but as a business man I respect  the power  of  established
industry and its  ability to respond ruthlessly  to  threats from outside.   It is
not enough that breast cancer survivors raise money to support promising
developments. You  have to  pursue those developments and  make sure that  they
have a  fair chance of realizing their potential.

Dan

> This is a posting from an alternative email list that I'm on:
>
> "Hi!  Here is an editorial today from the New York Times that is a perfect
> analogy for what has been wrong with the drug companies.  If the drug companies
> sat on a way to unclog the arteries,  the editorial writers want to know what
> else they are "sitting" on. "
madiba - 10 Nov 2003 17:57 GMT
> Our oldest son is a diabetic  and since he was diagnosed at five we have
> always encourage him to believe that one  day he would not need to take
> daily injections or, at the very least,  have to poke his fingers many
> times a day.  Multi billion dollar industries  exist around these two
> aspects of treatment,  so I am no longer optimistic.
What about the oral insulin spray?  No good?
http://www.defeatdiabetes.org/Articles/spray021024.htm

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madiba

Kaye301 - 10 Nov 2003 18:59 GMT
Dan wrote << We have  had a new  product on the market for several
years that makes breast prostheses much more comfortable to wear.  >>

I can't attest for your product, but I know that smaller stores carry a variety
of products designed by individuals and not marketed by large companies.  I do
believe that there are already products on the market that help with prostheses
to be worn with regular  bras.  However, I have a newer prostheses that I wear
in a regular bra without any need for anything.  It has a silicone backing that
molds to the shape of my skin.  It is very comfortable.  I don't know it's
there.  I don't feel as if I had surgery, either.  In other words it's
comfortable enough to be a non-issue.
One thing you might try if you have not had success with larger companies is to
go around to the smaller stores.  I am guessing that you probably would
represent yourself.  Most of the specialty shops are listed on-line.  If your
product is good and it is needed, it will sell that way.  Many have gotten
their starts by going that route first.  Good luck!
DRPace - 11 Nov 2003 02:28 GMT
Thank you for the advice, Kaye.  Actually, we had some quite small shops carrying
the  product initially, but they simply didn't promote them.  I think in some cases
they were sold on the product from personal  experience and asked  to market it
without thinking through  the implications.  Regarding  the product you mentioned,
the industry introduced  a range  of light weight  prostheses to address the
problem of discomfort, particularly in larger women.  That is one solution  to the
problem, but many women find the  trade off  in balance unacceptable.  It is these
women who are not being served.

> Dan wrote << We have  had a new  product on the market for several
> years that makes breast prostheses much more comfortable to wear.  >>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> product is good and it is needed, it will sell that way.  Many have gotten
> their starts by going that route first.  Good luck!
Jeri Hurst - 11 Nov 2003 13:24 GMT
I would like to know more about the protheses you mentioned and where
you bought it......also interested in the new product mentioned and
where can you find this new product......

Jeri Hurst
DRPace - 10 Nov 2003 17:21 GMT
I can  attest to the fact that the problem is much  more wide spread and perhaps
more sinister than that.   We have  had a new  product on the market for several
years that makes breast prostheses much more comfortable to wear.    You would
think that the retailers would jump at the chance to carry  it, but they don't
want  to,  apparently because,  for most women, our product eliminates the need to
wear mastectomy bras, which are much more profitable  to sell.  But the problem may
be even deeper than that.  Since introducing our product on the  internet  our
sales have not  increased at all and have been limited to four evenly spaced sets
of days  during each month, and  never  occur closer than four days apart.  This is
not the way  the marketplace works.   We  strongly suspect that our sales are under
some kind of very tight  third party control.  Fueling our suspicion in the fact
that some of  our major competitors operate their  own web servers and, presumably,
have access to hacking expertise.  There have been many  indications of such
activity  at our various web hosts over the years.

Our oldest son is a diabetic  and since he was diagnosed at five we have  always
encourage him to believe that one  day he would not need to take daily injections
or, at the very least,  have to poke his fingers many times a day.  Multi billion
dollar industries  exist around these two aspects of treatment,  so I am no longer
optimistic.  As an inventor I know that  there is no technical  problem that
cannot  be solved, but as a business man I respect  the power  of  established
industry and its  ability to respond ruthlessly  to  threats from outside.   It is
not enough that breast cancer survivors raise money to support promising
developments. You  have to  pursue those developments and  make sure that  they
have a  fair chance of realizing their potential.

Dan

> This is a posting from an alternative email list that I'm on:
>
> "Hi!  Here is an editorial today from the New York Times that is a perfect
> analogy for what has been wrong with the drug companies.  If the drug companies
> sat on a way to unclog the arteries,  the editorial writers want to know what
> else they are "sitting" on. "
su-texas@webtv.net - 10 Nov 2003 21:47 GMT
From: gulffritallary@aol.com (Gulffritallary)

A New Way to Unclog the ARTERIES [patented HDL injections/infusions]

Some quotes:  

an experimental treatment seems to remove plaque from clogged arteries.

[It's a new] treatment [for cardiovascular disease], to ward off heart
attacks and strokes.

Intravenous infusions of a genetically-engineered protein [HDL],
actually caused fatty deposits on artery walls, to diminish in volume
and thickness.

The rate of reversal (after just five weekly infusions), far exceeded
anything previously achieved with drugs or diets, used for much longer
periods.

The substance infused contained a genetically engineered variant, of the
key protein in high-density lipoprotein cholesterol [HDL], the so-called
Good Cholesterol.

infusing H.D.L. cholesterol directly into the body, was shown effective
in animals more than a decade ago, but the industry never really pursued
it.

using a normal body protein for therapeutic purposes [wasn't considered
profitable].

[However], a fluke discovery made patenting possible, [& gave] financial
incentive [to companies].

The problem was circumvented in this case, by using a mutant form of
protein, discovered among some 40-plus inhabitants of a small Italian
village. That made the drug unique & patentable.

Several companies are exploring different approaches, to develop their
own H.D.L. pills or infusion therapy.

-------------

Susan, Su_Texas  my opinions

PS  Because I've had strokes, I sometimes need to rewrite articles, so I
can read & understand them better.
 
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