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Democratic candidates avoiding comment on Michael Moore's proposals for universal healthcare.

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Useful Info - 24 Jun 2007 00:48 GMT
Not surprisingly, they who have whored themselves to the lobbyists---
Clinton, Obama, Edwards -- are taking a hostile view to Moore's film
Sicko,
even though the views represented in it are identical to the views
of the vast majority of Americans.

Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
Bea Oo - 24 Jun 2007 22:44 GMT
>Not surprisingly, they who have whored
> themselves to the lobbyists--- Clinton,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> identical to the views of the vast majority of
> Americans.

I would say your post is OT except healthcare in America becomes an
issue even for bc patients.   It is sad that it has to get to a point
that someone like Michael Moore has to make a film in such a way to make
people wake up to our problems.  If our reps in Wahington were doing
their job, the billions of dollars being spent in Iraq would be spent on
better healthcare  for ALL Americans and Moore would not have to make
such a movie as Sicko.

Imagine being diagnosed with bc and realizing you are out of a job and
don't have health insurance!    We shouldln't criticize Moore unless we
have been in this position and found a way to get the best bc care
inspite of these circumstances.  

Bea

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A.P. Thorsen - 28 Jun 2007 21:49 GMT
> >Not surprisingly, they who have whored
>> themselves to the lobbyists--- Clinton,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> that someone like Michael Moore has to make a film in such a way to make
> people wake up to our problems.

> ... We shouldln't criticize Moore unless we
> have been in this position and found a way to get the best bc care
> inspite of these circumstances.

I beg to differ; we certainly may criticize Moore -- there's reason to do so
even if one believes the U.S. health care system needs revamping.   He's a
junkyard dog; he's the Rush Limbaugh or Ann Coulter of the left.   I
wouldn't like to have him as an ally -- he's as likely to hurt any cause as
help it.

No, I haven't seen "Sicko" yet.   He's played fast & loose with facts &
implications in the past, and that reputation comes with him, whether he's
digging himself in even deeper on this round, or not.

But I doubt that our international group members care, and debates about our
(or other countries') health care systems always create more heat than light
in this group.  I'll bet there's a more suitable group for those who want to
discuss either health care systems, or Moore.

Ann T.
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Mary Fisher - 29 Jun 2007 15:56 GMT
...

> But I doubt that our international group members care, and debates about
> our (or other countries') health care systems always create more heat than
> light in this group.

'tis always so, well said Ann. And even better that you didn't say it to all
the other groups.

Mary
Robert - 26 Jun 2007 02:39 GMT
> Not surprisingly, they who have whored themselves to the lobbyists---
> Clinton, Obama, Edwards -- are taking a hostile view to Moore's film
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org

This article supports a Canadian style health system. Have you talked with a
Canadian lately? Long waits for many procedures, doctors can strike. My home
town is near the Canadian border and I see many Canadian license plates
around hospitals when I visit.

What polls shows that most Americans agree with Moore?

Robert
 
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