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Question - Paranoia

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R. Fizek - 23 Jun 2007 13:19 GMT
Hi,

I've heard that CA can met to the bone in an area that was broken?  I broke
my arm yesterday and am now of course assuming that I will hava a recurrence
there....'

Tammy
Tim Jackson - 23 Jun 2007 13:52 GMT
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> Tammy

Sorry to hear about your injury.

I don't think broken bones have anything to do with the risk of mets,
just that *if* you get mets, its somewhat more likely to turn up first
at a spot where there was damage.

So yes, I'd agree with the diagnosis of paranoia. <g>

Tim
alex - 23 Jun 2007 15:33 GMT
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> Tammy

Usually the doctors will know it a pathological fracture.  It pathologic
fracture usually occurs with normal activities--patients may be doing very
routine activities when their bone suddenly fractures. What type of activity
were you doing?  The doctor can usually tell by xray if was a pathological
fracture since the treatment is very different and requires more treatment
after the fracture.

Alex
R. Fizek - 23 Jun 2007 18:51 GMT
Hi,

I was ice skating when a teenager skating backwards without looking where he
was going hit me from behind and I fell.  It was a pretty hard fall and I
knew immediately that I had broken it and all I could of was -well, that's
it for me...

Tammy

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Tim Jackson - 23 Jun 2007 19:55 GMT
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Ah, we're confounding two things here.  I read Tammy as believing that
mets were more likely at the site of previous fractures, whereas Alex
apparently read it as fractures being more likely at the site of mets,
and perhaps being a first symptom of mets.

Certainly where there are bone metastases, fractures are easier and more
likely.  And indeed in some cases the first indication of mets is a
fracture.  But that's usually where the bc itself was undiscovered, it
would be unlikely in someone who had recently had a bone scan as it
takes quite a lot of tumour development to weaken something as
substantial as the bones of the arm.  And as Alex points out, it should
be pretty obvious on x-ray.  Another point is that bone mets get less
likely the further out along the extremities, they are rare in or beyond
wrists or ankles, more common in hips or shoulders, but most common in
ribs, skull and spine.  So location is significant too.

Tim
Sandy L - 24 Jun 2007 01:15 GMT
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> Tim

Yup.  There is usually a lucency around the area of the break if it is
through a metastasis.  The radiologist would almost certainly have spotted
that and commented if it were there.
Sandy L
 
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