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Louanne M - 19 Jun 2007 17:50 GMT
Have anyone of you taken that chemo and got blisters in the mouth?  If
you have what do you do for them.  My duaghter is afraid it the shingles
in the mouth, is that possible.
Tim Jackson - 19 Jun 2007 19:12 GMT
> Have anyone of you taken that chemo and got blisters in the mouth?  If
> you have what do you do for them.  My duaghter is afraid it the shingles
> in the mouth, is that possible.

Mouth blisters and sores are pretty common reactions to chemo.  Our
doctor didn't have anything better to offer than regular
over-the-counter mouth ulcer treatments.  However do ask your doctor.

Tim Jackson
x{yz}enophil44@hotmail.com - 19 Jun 2007 19:24 GMT
>Have anyone of you taken that chemo and got blisters in the mouth?  If
>you have what do you do for them.  My duaghter is afraid it the shingles
>in the mouth, is that possible.

I was given Difflam Oral rinse for mouth ulcers during chemotherapy and
it was very effective.  However I live in the UK, and it may be called
something else in the States.

You can read about it here

    http://tinyurl.com/2c38ju

and here

    http://tinyurl.com/2x9x2t

Its principal ingredient seems to be benzydamine hydrochloride.

I hope that informations helps you find something.
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Louanne M - 20 Jun 2007 17:57 GMT
My daughter had to go to just a  plain milatary dr, not her oncologist.
All they gave he for the blisters, was Malox, and told her she will get
plenty more. She is so hungy, ate yougart for breakfast, but it came
back up. She had to fight, in order to just see this dr who was on call.
I asked, couldn't she go on her own to anothere, she said not unless
referred by a military dr.
R. Fizek - 20 Jun 2007 22:24 GMT
Hi Louanne,

Couldn't she call her oncologist?  The group where I go has Nurse
Practioners and Physician Assistants take these kind of phone calls since
the mouth blisters are kind of routine with chemotherapy.  She should ask
the next time she is in to see the oncologist what she specifically needs to
do when she has a side effect.  Some oncologists also provide their patients
with their email address for patients to ask questions.

I hope the Malox helps.  It's actually one of the ingredients in something
called "magic swizzle" which is often given to chemo patients to swish with.
I can't remember the other two ingredients but can find out if you like.

Give your daughter our regards and best wishes.

Tammy

> My daughter had to go to just a  plain milatary dr, not her oncologist.
> All they gave he for the blisters, was Malox, and told her she will get
> plenty more. She is so hungy, ate yougart for breakfast, but it came
> back up. She had to fight, in order to just see this dr who was on call.
> I asked, couldn't she go on her own to anothere, she said not unless
> referred by a military dr.
SK - 20 Jun 2007 23:38 GMT
I recall when I was getting my chemos, the nurse had me hold ice chips in my
mouth.
Has anyone heard of this?  Apparently it worked because I never got any
sores

S.K.

> Have anyone of you taken that chemo and got blisters in the mouth?  If
> you have what do you do for them.  My duaghter is afraid it the shingles
> in the mouth, is that possible.
Louanne M - 21 Jun 2007 17:19 GMT
MY DAUGHTER CAN NEVER REACH HER MILITARY ONOCOLOGIST. SHE GETS A
MACHINE, AND SHE IS SO OVER WORKED THAT IT DAYS TIL SHE CALLS BACK, IT
TOOK ME TO DIAGNOSIS THE SHINGLES.  YESTERDAY WHEN HER MOUTH GOT SORE,
SHE CALLE AND THEY TOLD HER THE DID NOT KNOW WHERE HER DR WAS, THAT THEY
HAVE DR ON CALL IF SHE WANTED HER.  SO, THAT IS WHERE SHE GOT THE MOUTH
RINSE, AND THIS DR CONFIRMED THE SHINGLES, WHICH HER ONCOLOGIST HAS
NEVER SEEN. HOW CAN THEY PERSCRIBE WITH SEEING THE PATIENT.  NOW, HER HB
WANTED TO TAKE HER TO THE BEACH, BUT A FRIEND TOLD ME THAT HER DR TOLD
HER THAT WHILE ON DOXIL, YOU ARE TO STAY OUT OF THE SUN. IF SO, WHY
DON'T ALL DRS EXPLAIN THE TREATMENTS?  SORRY ABOUT THE CAP, I AM SO USED
TO USING THEM BECAUSE OF MY SIGHT, I FORGOT.
Tim Jackson - 21 Jun 2007 18:32 GMT
> NOW, HER HB
> WANTED TO TAKE HER TO THE BEACH, BUT A FRIEND TOLD ME THAT HER DR TOLD
> HER THAT WHILE ON DOXIL, YOU ARE TO STAY OUT OF THE SUN. IF SO, WHY
> DON'T ALL DRS EXPLAIN THE TREATMENTS?  SORRY ABOUT THE CAP, I AM SO USED
> TO USING THEM BECAUSE OF MY SIGHT, I FORGOT.

Yes, it's a good idea to keep out of the sun while on chemo.

Doctors unfortunately often forget to explain the 'trivial' everyday
facts, they are too busy concentrating on the disease. They don't deal
with the treatments on that level, they see prescriptions and symptoms
and test reports, they don't see the actual mechanics of treatment on a
daily basis, so it tends not to be at the forefront of their minds.

The people to ask about this sort of thing are the nurses.  They tend to
be a lot more knowledgeable about the practicalities because they are
there at the sharp end when the treatments are being administered.  Also
they tend to have more time to spend talking to the patient.

Don't worry about the capitals, I'm sure everyone will understand.  The
analogy with shouting is sort of appropriate. "Why are you shouting on
the newsgroup?" "Because I'm a bit deaf in the eyes."

Tim
alex - 22 Jun 2007 00:31 GMT
> MY DAUGHTER CAN NEVER REACH HER MILITARY ONOCOLOGIST. SHE GETS A
> MACHINE, AND SHE IS SO OVER WORKED THAT IT DAYS TIL SHE CALLS BACK, IT
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> DON'T ALL DRS EXPLAIN THE TREATMENTS?  SORRY ABOUT THE CAP, I AM SO USED
> TO USING THEM BECAUSE OF MY SIGHT, I FORGOT.

Have you tried calling your congressman, I think this is terrible that your
daughter has gotten this treatment. Here is a link for mouth sores.
http://www.chemocare.com/managing/mouth_sores_due_to_chemotherapy.asp
Did the hospital give her any information with the chemo?
Alex
Louanne M - 22 Jun 2007 13:52 GMT
My daughter complained to the dr's secretary about never being able to
contact her dr.  She must have told the dr, now Deb says, she used to
hug her, now she ignores me and treats me like a number. My daughter is
very timid, and does not want to be known as a complainer. I asked her
if she could not request another oncologist. She said "What's the use,
they would just pass the info to the new dr that she is a complainer."
But really she is not. she only contacts her dr when I tell her things I
find out here.
Mary E. - 22 Jun 2007 09:15 GMT
Yes, I was given ice to suck on when I was given Taxotere and it seemed to
help me at the time.  After treatment I was given bi-carb to rinse my mouth
if I had any ulcers.
Mary E.
>I recall when I was getting my chemos, the nurse had me hold ice chips in
>my mouth.
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>> you have what do you do for them.  My duaghter is afraid it the shingles
>> in the mouth, is that possible.
 
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