>> My daughter has been on it for a yr now, I was
>> reading your remarks about it before. She
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> 'NO FORWARDS OR SPAM, PLEASE"
The dentist is probably making an educated guess based on the available
information. Given what is known it would be a reasonable way to
proceed. Yes it is known that some of the drug stays in your body more
or less forever, the unknown is whether it is the stored drug or the
circulating drug that gives rise to the increased risk of disease.
Do appreciate how rare this condition is: given the available
statistics, any one dentist would have to operate on at least 300
long-term Zometa patients before having an evens chance of encountering
a case of necrosis. And given the incidence of Zometa patients in the
general population, that adds up to an awful lot of root-canal work and
extractions. It's something most dentists are never going to encounter
in their whole career.
All surgery and dental surgery has a calculated risk attached, eg drug
resistant infection, anaesthetic reaction, etc. This is just one more.
Tim Jackson
x{yz}enophil44@hotmail.com - 26 May 2007 17:35 GMT
louella65@webtv.net wrote
>>> My daughter has been on it for a yr now, I was
>>> reading your remarks about it before. She
>>> went to Dentist yesterday, and he said
>>> Zometa stays in your body for 10 yrs???? He
>>> said he has done work on people who were
>>> on it, and had no problems.
>> I would love to know where that dentist got his information from about
>> Zometa and how long it stays in the body. Maybe he should share it
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>All surgery and dental surgery has a calculated risk attached, eg drug
>resistant infection, anaesthetic reaction, etc. This is just one more.
Not only that, but speaking as someone who frequently suffers dental
abscesses and needs remedial root canal work, I can't see that there's
any alternative, unless removing teeth has no negative effects. I would
have far fewer teeth than I now have if I'd had to have an extraction
every time I needed dental work done, and I wouldn't be very happy about
that.
Fortunately for me, I don't have to make the decision, but I'm pretty
sure I would take the risk and have the work done. Dental pain is the
worst I've ever suffered.

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Bea Oo - 26 May 2007 18:23 GMT
>All surgery and dental surgery has a
> calculated risk attached, eg drug resistant
> infection, anaesthetic reaction, etc. This is
> just one more.
>Tim Jackson
"This is just one more"???? You are comparing Osteonecrosis of the Jaw
to "normal" risks of dental surgery?? I can't believe what I read.
It's ok, Tim. It's healthy for people to disagree once in a while.
Bea
'NO FORWARDS OR SPAM, PLEASE"
Tim Jackson - 26 May 2007 22:07 GMT
>> All surgery and dental surgery has a
>> calculated risk attached, eg drug resistant
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> 'NO FORWARDS OR SPAM, PLEASE"
What I mean is that the risk is in the same ball-park as things like the
risk of a life-threatening infection such as MRSA or c.difficile after
surgery.
I am not belittling the risk or the unpleasantness of the condition, but
to keep it in proportion it puts the hazards of invasive dental surgery
on a par with say an appendectomy.
I think the original story rather over-hyped the danger, and we all tend
to forget that there are some small risks of major complications in just
about any intervention. While this is certainly an increase in risk and
an unpleasant disease, it does not constitute a massive increase in the
overall risk of something nasty happening.
I think the issue is compounded by the attitudes of (dentists')
insurance companies. Inevitably when faced with a new hazard that they
have not yet been able to assess the actuarial cost of, they are likely
to take an attitude of "just say no".
And anyway, as another poster wrote, there isn't really a lot of choice.
Tim
Mary E. - 27 May 2007 03:02 GMT
I am still going through the process of root canal when I first posted the
problem of Zometa and have to accept that its there in my body. I am also
praying that this root canal treatment is 'successful' and not going to get
reinfected. I am new to dental problems as i have only suffered with minor
cavities all of my 52 years! I probably wont have another infusion of this
drug and will reassess my decision next year. I really am worried about
having an extraction at this stage (I had Zometa in March). Looking at my
xrays now there could be 2 other molars that may need 'root canal' in the
future due to how deep the cavities were. Hopefully I will sail out of this
problem unscathed for another 15 years!!
Mary E.
>>> All surgery and dental surgery has a
>>> calculated risk attached, eg drug resistant
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> Tim
Tim Jackson - 27 May 2007 09:18 GMT
> I am still going through the process of root canal when I first
> posted the problem of Zometa and have to accept that its there in my
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> the future due to how deep the cavities were. Hopefully I will sail
> out of this problem unscathed for another 15 years!! Mary E.
One important point is that if (as appears to be the case) the risk of
ONJ is due to accumulation of bisphosphonates in the bone, then the risk
is cumulative too. So if you haven't been on the drug for long, your
risk right now should be minimal.
But that does imply that if you are anticipating future dental surgery
then you need to discuss this with your oncologist.
Tim