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myfight2@yahoo.com - 23 May 2007 05:02 GMT
I'm still in shock, I think....

To introduce myself, my name is Sandy and I'm 47.  My mom died 24
years ago at age 48 from breast cancer. Although I had a breast MRI in
February that was negative, I had a routine mammogram two weeks ago
and calcifications were seen in the right breast.   I had a biopsy
last week and today I was told that the result is positive, and the
tumor is 6-7 mm.  When doing the biopsy, the doctor told me that it
was either a DCIS or benign, so I guess I have DCIS.  It's estrogen-
receptive.  I've been reading some of the posts on this newsgroup, and
am kinda freaking out because I am peri-menopausal and I've been using
Revival Soy bars to ward off hot flashes.   Because tonight I'm just
scraping the surface of all of the information available, can someone
tell me if I should stop eating the bars immediately?   They've helped
so much.  I was miserable with constant hot flashes all day long at
work last summer/fall, plus a few at night as well.

The oncologist who gave me the news today mentioned lumpectomy,
radiation, chemo and estrogen-blocking medication for five years.  I
am fairly stunned that it will require more than the surgery and
radiation.  Is there anyone else who's been in a similar situation and
can help me digest some of what I was hit with today?
Tim Jackson - 23 May 2007 07:16 GMT
> I'm still in shock, I think....
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> so much.  I was miserable with constant hot flashes all day long at
> work last summer/fall, plus a few at night as well.

There is really no solid evidence on the effect of dietary soy on breast
cancer.  There are plausible theories that suggest it might promote
cancer growth, and theories that it might even suppress it.  The usual
advice is not to worry about a 'normal' (western) amount of soy in the
diet, but to avoid  treating it as a staple.  So I don't think it is
necessary to to "stop eating the bars immediately".  But ask your
oncologist, I'm not a doctor.

> The oncologist who gave me the news today mentioned lumpectomy,
> radiation, chemo and estrogen-blocking medication for five years.  I
> am fairly stunned that it will require more than the surgery and
> radiation.  Is there anyone else who's been in a similar situation and
> can help me digest some of what I was hit with today?

That he is advising chemotherapy suggests that it is rather more then
DCIS.  5 years Tamoxifen (or similar) would be normal for an ER+ tumour
of any size, to reduce the risk of it happening again (as well as the
risk of spread).  6-7 mm is quite small, it's close to the limit of
resolution on a mammogram, so it was caught about as early as possible
and the prognosis is good.

Tim Jackson
myfight2@yahoo.com - 24 May 2007 07:04 GMT
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Hi Tim,

DCIS is what the head of the breast center told me as she was doing
the biopsy, but I called this morning, and I have invasive ductal
carcinoma.  I was told that everything about it is favorable---it is
very small; it is estrogen and progesterone-receptive, and it's got an
index of 8 on some scale of how quickly cancers grow.  I was told that
under 15 is good, and my result is that only 8% of the cells are
reproducing.  I am more worried now than I was last night.
Mari@net.ac - 23 May 2007 11:16 GMT
>I'm still in shock, I think....

I know I was when I first heard that diagnosis over the phone. Shiver...
I just heard "cancer" and thought I was going to die right away.
<<Hugs>>

>The oncologist who gave me the news today mentioned lumpectomy,
>radiation, chemo and estrogen-blocking medication for five years.  I
>am fairly stunned that it will require more than the surgery and
>radiation.  Is there anyone else who's been in a similar situation and
>can help me digest some of what I was hit with today?

I had the lumpectomy, chemo, radiation and estrogen, in that order. The
oncologist said his department discussed whether I required chemo and
decided I should have it just to be safe, so perhaps that what your
oncologist is doing, especially with your family history.

Chemo isn't pleasant, but it was a lot better that I expected.  It's
been five years for me now and I'm in my last few months of the
estrogen-blocker.  

Actually, all of it was a lot better than I expected.

Marilyn
myfight2@yahoo.com - 24 May 2007 07:07 GMT
On May 23, 3:16�am, M...@net.ac wrote:

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> Marilyn

Thanks, Marilyn.  Today I talked with a couple of people who told me
that their chemo wasn't nearly as bad as what I recall my mother
experiencing back in 1979 or so.  Now that I know my cancer is worse
than what I thought it was yesterday, I am fine with having chemo or
whatever it takes to survive this!
María - 24 May 2007 13:52 GMT
>>I'm still in shock, I think....
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> Marilyn

Please don't forget that some forms of hormone treatment have now been found
to be a viable alternative to chemo for oestrogen positive:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6667313.stm

You should, of course, discuss with your onc.

Regards

María
myfight2@yahoo.com - 24 May 2007 15:59 GMT
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I will look into this.  Thanks Maria.
A.P. Thorsen - 24 May 2007 01:59 GMT
Hi, Sandy,

Welcome to the best group no one should have to join.  Some comments below.

> I'm still in shock, I think....
>
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> was either a DCIS or benign, so I guess I have DCIS.  It's estrogen-
> receptive.
....
> The oncologist who gave me the news today mentioned lumpectomy,
> radiation, chemo and estrogen-blocking medication for five years.  I
> am fairly stunned that it will require more than the surgery and
> radiation.  Is there anyone else who's been in a similar situation and
> can help me digest some of what I was hit with today?

Is it possible that your oncologist was just running down the types of
treatment that *might* be involved, depending on how the future tests play
out?

Lumpectomy, radiation and the anti-estrogen sound normal, but chemo might be
unusual for DCIS, unless there was something out of the ordinary in the
pathology results.  If the lump appears small, they sometimes don't know
whether chemo's in the picture until they have the lump out, and sample the
lymph nodes.

Like Mari said, don't believe everything you've read or hear about breast
cancer treatment.  It's a rotten hobby, but do-able.   During treatment, I
was sicker than most people get these days doing it, and it wasn't like I
felt worse at any given moment than I ever had before in my life or anything
like that.  It was just kind of a long slog.

I had stage III breast cancer (at age 44) - 5 tumors in one breast, largest
3.1 cm; one tumor in my other breast, one positive lymph node.  I had
bilateral mastectomies, 6 months of chemo, 6 weeks of radiation, and
Tamoxifen followed by Arimidex (still on the latter) -- both are estrogen
blockers.  (Like yours, my mother died of BC, though mine was older when it
happened.)

Now, six and a half years past diagnosis, I'm healthy, I feel great, and I
have no sign of cancer.  Life is good.  *Very* good.

One caveat:  Most find that the estrogen blockers cause hot flashes, so you
may have more of that to look forward to, unfortunatly.  But then again,
maybe not -- everyone's different.

So . . . keep renewing your magazine subscriptions.  You're gonna be OK.
Really.  But don't be afraid to vent a little along the way -- and you've
come to the right place for that.   At various times, it's natural to be
fearful, anxious, etc., etc.

Sending positive wishes,

Ann T.
myfight2@yahoo.com - 24 May 2007 07:17 GMT
On May 23, 5:59�pm, "A.P. Thorsen" <annthorsendontsends...@yahoo.com>
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> Ann T.

Ann, thanks for the reassurances.  My husband retired early and I am
the sole support of our family.  I have no idea how I am going to keep
my business running and go through this at the same time.  I've been
working 7 days a week since early February, and things don't slow down
until October.  I think I'm more afraid of the time off than I am off
getting sick from chemo.  I'm going to have to figure out how to take
care of me now and let my employees take care of things at the office
when I need to be away.

I'm glad I found this group, and I have a lot of reading to do!
Mary E. - 24 May 2007 09:24 GMT
Hi Sandy,
My heart goes out to you, I fully understand how you must be feeling!
Things seem so frightening for us going through the journey of Cancer
treatment.  I too, was stunned with my diagnosis.  I was diagnosed with
Lobular Carcinoma in the left breast.  the tumor was 2.5cm and then the week
later they found 4 lumps on the right breast through ultrasound all small
but still a great 2nd shock and another diagnosis to digest!  Somehow we
seem to pull ourselves together and be strong throughout the ordeal.  I was
51 with no family history and never a thought entered my mind that i would
ever suffer with breast cancer.  I had to have a bilateral mastectomy.
Silly me always had lumpy small breasts and always had my mammograms every 2
years here in Australia. . Low and behold nothing was detected on the
mammogram because my cancer was hidden in the lobules of the breast! No one
ever mentioned about having ultrasound checks as well.  It has now been 15
months since my life has changed and my treatment consisted of chemo FEC 3
doses every 3 weeks and Taxotere 3 doses every 3 weeks.  My cancer was Grade
2 with negative lymph node involvement.  I am now on Arimidex.  I have
decided to have breast reconstruction and am having saline/gel expander
implants.  Fingers crossed the ops due around August.  I still have a low
white blood cell count so I will not go ahead until my bloods are back up
naturally!
Sandy, your tumor is way smaller than mine - a good prognosis Grade 1 I bet.
Keep up positive thoughts and I hope you have a good support team by your
side!
Mary E.

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> Ann T.

Ann, thanks for the reassurances.  My husband retired early and I am
the sole support of our family.  I have no idea how I am going to keep
my business running and go through this at the same time.  I've been
working 7 days a week since early February, and things don't slow down
until October.  I think I'm more afraid of the time off than I am off
getting sick from chemo.  I'm going to have to figure out how to take
care of me now and let my employees take care of things at the office
when I need to be away.

I'm glad I found this group, and I have a lot of reading to do!
myfight2@yahoo.com - 24 May 2007 15:57 GMT
> Hi Sandy,
> My heart goes out to you, I fully understand how you must be feeling!
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> side!
> Mary E.

Hi Mary,

I think mine is stage 1, but the breast center is apparently waiting
for one more pathology test, so I don't have all of the information
yet.  I am keeping an open mind to having a bilateral mastectomy,
because I don't want the future to be an endless rollercoaster of
mammograms and biopsies like the past 2.5 years have been.  The other
two biopsies were on the other side anyway, so sooner or later, cancer
will probably strike that breast too, if it isn't there already.
Mary E. - 27 May 2007 02:28 GMT
Hi Sandy,
Yes, going through the stress of wondering whether youll get another tumour
on the other side is very traumatic.  I suppose I was 'lucky' in a sense
that it was all caught at once and having bilateral mastectomies was
actually better for me in so far as not having to go through another op and
besides Im not lopsided.  My scars look ok and I am looking ahead and
feeling positive about the future.  Some people opt never to have
reconstruction - but I'm not sure what your doctor thinks about immediate
reconstruction - there is that option.  I suppose its early days for those
decisions.
Mary E.
On May 24, 1:24?am, "Mary E." <h...@home.com> wrote:
> Hi Sandy,
> My heart goes out to you, I fully understand how you must be feeling!
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> side!
> Mary E.

Hi Mary,

I think mine is stage 1, but the breast center is apparently waiting
for one more pathology test, so I don't have all of the information
yet.  I am keeping an open mind to having a bilateral mastectomy,
because I don't want the future to be an endless rollercoaster of
mammograms and biopsies like the past 2.5 years have been.  The other
two biopsies were on the other side anyway, so sooner or later, cancer
will probably strike that breast too, if it isn't there already.
x{yz}enophil44@hotmail.com - 24 May 2007 09:56 GMT
>My husband retired early and I am
>the sole support of our family.  I have no idea how I am going to keep
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>care of me now and let my employees take care of things at the office
>when I need to be away.

Can your husband not help out for a while?
Signature

"It's easier to get forgiveness than permission."
Rear Admiral "Amazing" Grace Hopper

Mary Fisher - 24 May 2007 10:23 GMT
>>My husband retired early and I am
>>the sole support of our family.  I have no idea how I am going to keep
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> Can your husband not help out for a while?

That was my first reaction, then I read on and saw that there are employees
too. The combination of husband and employees should be an effective,
temporary and possibly intermittent solution to the work problem.

Nobody is indispensable, the world keeps turning :-)

Take each day as it comes, let others do the worrying, Sandy, you just get
on with the treatment and look forward to getting back to full time work
when you're ready.

Hugs,

Mary
myfight2@yahoo.com - 24 May 2007 15:51 GMT
On May 24, 1:56�am, x{yz}enophi...@hotmail.com wrote:

> >My husband retired early and I am
> >the sole support of our family. I have no idea how I am going to keep
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> "It's easier to get forgiveness than permission."
> Rear Admiral "Amazing" Grace Hopper

I am the brain behind the business (one of the largest e-commerce
wedding sites) and he is just helpless where that is concerned.  I do
all of the marketing, buying, designing of new product, financial,
etc.  He can do some things at work, but not my job.  We have a 19
year old daughter and I'm going to have to start teaching her to do
what I do.   We were hopeful the kids would take over the business
anyway, so maybe this is the beginning of that and I can extricate
myself and start having some sort of life again.   The boys are only
in high school, so they cannot help much and shouldn't have to.

I discovered last night that my cousin had bilateral prophylactic
mastectomies a couple of years ago (because of our lovely gene pool),
and her sister gave me the phone number of a friend who also had that
done.  Before my diagnosis, I was considering having genetic testing
and possibly taking that step, and my cousin encouraged me to take
some time and consider it.  Her sister doesn't need mammograms any
longer.  Is this something any of you considered?
A.P. Thorsen - 24 May 2007 15:34 GMT
On May 23, 5:59?pm, "A.P. Thorsen" <annthorsendontsends...@yahoo.com>
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>  My husband retired early and I am
> the sole support of our family.  I have no idea how I am
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> of me now and let my employees take care of things at the office
> when I need to be away.

Hi, Sandy,

It's good to start thinking these things through, but don't panic just yet.
You'll know more when your treatment plan is laid out.

It sounds like you may be assuming you will be unable to work throughout
treatment, and that may be untrue.   There's no question it will have an
impact, and there will be periods you need to take off.  And you may need to
reduce your "7 days" schedule, just purely due to logistics of treatment, if
nothing else.

But the experience with actual treatment varies greatly.  Once again, don't
believe everything you read or see on TV.  Reporters like dramatic stories,
so usually you get either "she never missed a day of work" or "bedridden and
miserable throughout treatment", but these are the extremes.  The truth is
likely to be somewhere in the middle.

Based on my experience, you'll miss some time for surgery.  I had double
mastectomies, so can't comment on lumpectomy.  The surgery required some
time off work, but I could do some work from home.  (It was draining to
shower & dress up & get out, especially at first.)  I also found that my
co-workers really pulled together & helped fill in for me, throughout the
process.  People can be just great.

Radiation is pretty easy for most,  in terms of work effect.  During
radiation, the big issues are the logistics of daily treatment (helps if
your cancer center is nearby), and possible fatigue.  Some have no fatigue
at all, most do not have debilitating fatigue from radiation.  You're likely
to have periods when you can't wear a bra at all, which may matter if your
job involves meeting clients.

Chemo is likely to be the biggest concern, if you even need to go through
it.

I was a mid-level manager with an intense schedule and long work week at the
time of diagnosis.   As a widow, I supported myself, but did have the kind
of situation with medical leave & sick time available.  But I did *not* go
on disability through treatment.

Since -- as I mentioned earlier -- I had a worse than average time with
chemo, I did miss a fair amount of work time during chemo -- a few days
every three weeks, in my case.   But the time off needs were pretty
predictable.  After your first chemo cycle (if you even have chemo), you'll
know when you feel best, and can schedule the more demanding things then.
You'll also know more-or-less how your blood counts react, so if you have
some times when you're too immune-supressed to be around groups, you'll know
that, too.  Again, if your work can be done partly from home, this could
help.   If you have chemo, you can expect to have lower energy levels, but
how much lower varies *a lot* by person, so don't leap to assumptions based
on others' experience.  If you can keep getting some exercise during chemo,
even when you don't feel like it, that will help.

Some/many people experience cognitive deficits during chemo, which,
depending on your work, can be an issue.  If there are issues, memory is
usually the biggest impact, but some difficulties with complex reasoning are
possible.  But I've known some women who said they didn't have much "chemo
brain" effect, too.

It's kind of hard to plan ahead in copious detail, because -- as you're
probably gathering -- treatment effects are very, very, VERY individual.  I
think there's more person-by-person variation in treatment effects than
there is individual variation in pretty much any other context in which I've
found myself.

Contingency plans and flexibility are important -- as is giving yourself a
break when things don't work out as planned.   Because of individual
variation, it's easy to over-plan for things that never happen, and be
surprised by some things you didn't plan for.   But you can get through
this.   Make some contingency plans as you learn more about your treatment
plan, and then take it a day at a time.  This group can help you understand
the range of individual variation in treatment effects, once you know what
your course of treatment will be.

You're gonna get through this.  With your business, it'll be a challenge,
but if you're strong enough to be in business for yourself, you've got the
strength to carry it through.

Take care, dear --

Ann T.
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myfight2@yahoo.com - 25 May 2007 05:31 GMT
Hi Ann,

Thank you for telling me of your experience.  I've been talking to
lots of women, including cousins with whom I share a family history of
cancer, cancer and more cancer.   I learned that one cousin had DCIS a
couple of years ago and had double mastectomies.  Her other breast was
biopsied and they found abnormal cells, so she is thankful to have
made that decision.   My other cousin knows a woman at church who had
the same diagnosis and made the same decision in February of this
year.  She has tissue expanders currently and is looking forward to
her implants.  I spent about an hour on the phone with her last night
and she was very comforting to me.  I am leaning in the same
direction, because I've already had two biopsies in the other breast
and feel it's just a matter of time before cancer is found on that
side as well.  I am sick of mammograms, ultrasounds, cyst aspirations,
biopsies and worrying.  My younger sister is now considering the same,
before she develops cancer.   We lost our mother to breast cancer at a
very young age, and don't want to orphan our own children.

As far as work goes, the lady I spoke with last night said to plan on
missing three weeks after the surgery if all goes well.  I can do a
lot of my work from home and was wondering how soon I'd be able to sit
up and use a notebook computer if I proceed with the more drastic
surgery.  I discussed this surgical option with my #1 employee, and
she reassured me that she can take care of everything for whatever
time I need.  I am feeling better tonight.   I plan to work during
chemo and radiation---it is the down time after surgery that I am
worried about.

Part of getting better will undoubtedly entail getting more rest and
relaxation.  I have been working myself way too hard for a long time,
and not taking care of myselft, and that's probably part of why this
happened.

I need to find out what the post-surgical treatment plan would be if I
do opt for bilateral mastectomy.   Any recommendations on how to find
the very best breast and plastic surgeons?  I only have a couple of
weeks to make a decision, and then surgery will be coordinated and
scheduled.
A.P. Thorsen - 25 May 2007 05:38 GMT
> I need to find out what the post-surgical treatment plan would be if I
> do opt for bilateral mastectomy.   Any recommendations on how to find
> the very best breast and plastic surgeons?  I only have a couple of
> weeks to make a decision, and then surgery will be coordinated and
> scheduled.

I  think I can't help with this, as it sounds like you're planning on
reconstruction.  I'm unreconstructed (in a variety of ways besides just my
chest <g>).  While I'm very happy with that, and it has the advantages of
less surgical recuperation and easier detection of (unlikely) future
localized problems, I know it isn't for everyone.

I was off work about 3 weeks after my mastectomies, but capable of doing
work from home.  I tended to tire easily for a while.  The mastectomies
proper were an easy recovery; the side where lymph nodes were removed took
the greater degree of rehab.

Ann T.
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myfight2@yahoo.com - 25 May 2007 05:48 GMT
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Hi Ann,

That's something I wanted to ask.  Since you cannot have mammograms,
how do they watch for recurrences after mastectomy?
A.P. Thorsen - 26 May 2007 04:17 GMT
> That's something I wanted to ask.  Since you cannot have mammograms,
> how do they watch for recurrences after mastectomy?

If you think about it, the reason you're getting the mammogram is to examine
the breast tissue for new tumors.   The new tumors are had to detect in any
other way because they're buried in fatty & breast tissue.

But the mastectomies remove as close as they can get to all the breast
tissue.  It's almost (but not quite) true to say that they don't have to
watch for new tumors, so you don't need to substitute anything for the
mammograms.  In reality, there are likely to be some tiny number of
breast-tissue cells here & there, and some chance of tumors on the chest
wall, but the odds are fairly small.

Also, my understanding is that, if you're non-reconstructed like me, any new
chest lumps would be easily felt.  (And that makes sense to me given the
nature of the remaining tissue on my chest.  I can feel my ribs throughout,
except perhaps for a few small areas on the radiated side where I have some
overlying hardened tissue.)

Think about how easy it is to feel a lump or bump -- even a tiny one like a
whitehead -- on some other non-fleshy part of your body (face, kneecap, back
of hand . . . .).  My chest is more like that.

While lumpectomy plus radiation gives women virtually the same odds of
long-term survival as mastectomies,  mastectomies have significantly reduced
chance of a new breast tumor.  For many women, preserving the breast is
worth the risk of new primary tumors and new BC diagnoses, as long as it
doesn't affect survival.  Not true for me.  It's subjective.  I'm not
appearance-conscious; I don't feel like "less of a woman" with a flat
(concave?) chest; I don't need to repeat the rotten hobby that was cancer
treatment - I can find plenty of hobbies I enjoy more.

Reconstruction makes post-mastectomy local recurrence harder to detect.  But
it doesn't (as far as I know) make local recurrence any more likely.

In my particular case, every once in a while (every couple of years,
maybe?), some member of my medical team decides it would be fun if I had a
chest x-ray.  But I think that has more to do with looking for possible
metastases than new tumors (remember, I had locally advance, multi-focal,
stage III breast cancer -- I had a 60% chance or so, maybe, of being here
typing at you today.).  And periodically, I get some weird symptom that
results in some other kind of scan (MRI, CT, bone scan . . .).  Basically,
they rule out BC first, whereas if I had a different history they'd assume
other things first.   Some of the cases where I've had scans are body pains
(turned out to be musculo-skeletal things like arthritis, scoliosis-related
pains, etc.), morning headaches (turned out to be stress), etc.

I hope that answers your questions.  If not, ask follow-ups!

Take are,

Ann T.
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Sandy L - 25 May 2007 12:46 GMT
> Hi Ann,
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> and feel it's just a matter of time before cancer is found on that
> side as well.

Give very careful consideration to the option of mastectomy without
reconstruction.  For some of the rationale, go to http://bca.ns.ca/forum/ 
and search for posts by Jean214, who had reconstruction with a tram flap.
My wife opted for bilateral mastectomy,even with only unilateral disease,
and chose no reconstruction, simply because she didn't want anymore surgery
than necessary.  She originallly intended to use prostheses, as a cousin had
done, but found she prefers to do without.  She has a little trouble finding
clothes that drape well, but shoppping is her favorite sport anyhow and she
always comes up with what she needs.

> I am sick of mammograms, ultrasounds, cyst aspirations,
> biopsies and worrying.  My younger sister is now considering the same,
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> weeks to make a decision, and then surgery will be coordinated and
> scheduled.
A.P. Thorsen - 26 May 2007 04:25 GMT
> My wife opted for bilateral mastectomy,even with only unilateral disease,
> and chose no reconstruction, simply because she didn't want anymore
> surgery than necessary.  She originally intended to use prostheses, as a
> cousin had done, but found she prefers to do without.  She has a little
> trouble finding clothes that drape well, but shopping is her favorite
> sport anyhow and she always comes up with what she needs.

That's why I wear prostheses for "dress up" occasions & (usually) work, but
go without in most of my personal life.  Women's clothes hang better with
the porta-boobs <g>.  Unlike your wife, I *hate* clothes-shopping!
(Bookstores are a whole 'nother thing . . . .).

As an aside, I'm very, very happy to have had the bilateral vs. the uni.
Being completely flat seems better to me than being uneven, and I understand
that if you have a uni with larger breasts, and go without prostheses, some
women experience back problems from the imbalance.

Once they found the multiple tumors in my left breast, I wanted the
bilateral prophylactically, but my surgeon was unwilling.  So I fooled him &
got a tumor in the right breast, too.   (I'm stubborn; I'll do a lot to get
my way <g>.)

I'm quite amused, too, by an acquaintance who made her case for bilateral by
telling her surgeon "they came as a pair and they're leaving as a pair".

Take care,

Ann T.
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myfight2@yahoo.com - 26 May 2007 20:50 GMT
On May 25, 8:25�pm, "A.P. Thorsen" <annthorsendontsends...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> > My wife opted for bilateral mastectomy,even with only unilateral disease,
> > and chose no reconstruction, simply because she didn't want anymore
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> Ann T.
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That is funny, Ann.  I feel much better about my situation and know
that I will manage to get through this.  I'm actually feeling anxious
to get started on the road to being healthy again, beginning with
getting this tumor removed asap.
Mary Fisher - 28 May 2007 20:37 GMT
>> My wife opted for bilateral mastectomy,even with only unilateral disease,
>> and chose no reconstruction, simply because she didn't want anymore
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> with the porta-boobs <g>.  Unlike your wife, I *hate* clothes-shopping!
> (Bookstores are a whole 'nother thing . . . .).

Same here, on both counts. In fact I hate ALL shopping and force myself
never to go into a book store because ... :-(

> As an aside, I'm very, very happy to have had the bilateral vs. the uni.
> Being completely flat seems better to me than being uneven, and I
> understand that if you have a uni with larger breasts, and go without
> prostheses, some women experience back problems from the imbalance.

I'm going off on a limb here.

We've been staying at Traquair House (Google it, you won't be sorry) and in
our little caravan we entertained a couple we've known for some time. Not
long enough, however, to know that he's hd prostate problems, like Spouse,
and she was diagnosed with bc in 1999. Of course we compared experiences.

She had a bilateral although her cancer was only in one breast. Then she had
reconstructions, saline behind her muscles, put simply. When she showed me
the result I was surprised to see that the nipple on her unaffected breast
was intact, there was none on the other side because she didn't want any
more surgery.

> Once they found the multiple tumors in my left breast, I wanted the
> bilateral prophylactically, but my surgeon was unwilling.  So I fooled him
> & got a tumor in the right breast, too.   (I'm stubborn; I'll do a lot to
> get my way <g>.)

That's going a little far but I'm not surprised, knowing how persiste nt you
are :-) I told my friend that initially I'd wanted an 'all-off'' and she
said that her surgeon had told her that most women do. That really surprised
me, I've never heard of that. I didn't wnat to be lopsided  but in the end I
just had a lumpectomy.

> I'm quite amused, too, by an acquaintance who made her case for bilateral
> by telling her surgeon "they came as a pair and they're leaving as a
> pair".

LOL!

Isn't this a fascinating condition? It's not an ideal state to live through
but there's always so much more to know ...

Mary

> Take care,
>
> Ann T.
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myfight2@yahoo.com - 29 May 2007 03:42 GMT
I found a web site over the weekend where the photos of
reconstructions were much less scary, so I am feeling better about
bilateral mastectomy now.  I won't know for several more days if I'm a
candidate for skin-sparing surgery, but that is what I am going to ask
for.

Here is the site: http://www.beckermd.com/breast_reconstruction.aspx
Check out the prophylactic reconstruction page too.

Now I just have to find a doctor experienced with this type of
procedure.
Piper - 24 May 2007 17:43 GMT
On May 23, 5:02 am, myfig...@yahoo.com wrote:
> I'm still in shock, I think....

> The oncologist who gave me the news today mentioned lumpectomy,
> radiation, chemo and estrogen-blocking medication for five years.  I
> am fairly stunned that it will require more than the surgery and
> radiation.  Is there anyone else who's been in a similar situation and
> can help me digest some of what I was hit with today?

Hi Sandy

I was diagnosed with a 14mm tumour in 1998 and had exactly the
treatment you mention above. My consultant said that the chemo was 'to
be on the safe side'. I was 34 when diagnosed almost exactly 9 years
ago. Some of the treatment was easier, some a bit harder but it was
all do-able. Chemo varies depending on the combination but I had
Zofran and steroids to alleviate the side effects and coped pretty
well. I organised life around the chemo days, the rest of the time
work was perfectly possible.

Good luck with it all. I'm sure your daughter, husband and employees
will come up trumps. I didn't realise I had such a wonderful family
and friends till they helped me through this experience.

Best wishes

Rachel
x{yz}enophil44@hotmail.com - 24 May 2007 17:50 GMT
>Good luck with it all. I'm sure your daughter, husband and employees
>will come up trumps. I didn't realise I had such a wonderful family
>and friends till they helped me through this experience.

I certainly found that to be the case with my family and friends.

I hpe it all turns out well for you.
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myfight2@yahoo.com - 25 May 2007 05:36 GMT
On May 24, 9:50?am, x{yz}enophi...@hotmail.com wrote:

> >Good luck with it all. I'm sure your daughter, husband and employees
> >will come up trumps. I didn't realise I had such a wonderful family
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> "It's easier to get forgiveness than permission."
> Rear Admiral "Amazing" Grace Hopper

I am going to have to learn to accept help, I guess.  It's always been
my attitude that "it's easier to do it myself than ask someone".  All
of you have been very kind and I appreciate your time in writing
responses!
myfight2@yahoo.com - 25 May 2007 05:34 GMT
> On May 23, 5:02 am, myfig...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
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>
> Rachel

Thanks Rachel.  I think that everyone will go the extra mile at work
to keep things running smoothly when I have to be away.  I guess I am
a control freak and right now, I feel like I have lost control of just
about everything.  It's scary thinking that I will be physically
totally helpless for a time.  I've always been physically strong and
hard-working and this is just not fitting with my image of myself at
all.
Alex - 27 May 2007 16:31 GMT
> The oncologist who gave me the news today mentioned lumpectomy,
> radiation, chemo and estrogen-blocking medication for five years.  I
> am fairly stunned that it will require more than the surgery and
> radiation.  Is there anyone else who's been in a similar situation and
> can help me digest some of what I was hit with today?

Sorry for posting so late, I was diagnosed at age 40, had mastectomy
and chemo.....you will get through this whole experience.  Alex
myfight2@yahoo.com - 28 May 2007 07:11 GMT
> > The oncologist who gave me the news today mentioned lumpectomy,
> > radiation, chemo and estrogen-blocking medication for five years. I
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> Sorry for posting so late, I was diagnosed at age 40, had mastectomy
> and chemo.....you will get through this whole experience. Alex

Hi Alex,

Thanks for the encouragement!

Sandy
 
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