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Tamoxifen Effect?

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Jim - 20 Jan 2007 12:32 GMT
I'm 48 female. Last year diagnosed with stage 1 LBrC
Started Tamoxifen.

Gaining Weight
Menstrual Period Stopped a few months ago

I'm wondering if Tamoxifen caused any of the othe ladies out there to go
into menopaus sooner or had this affect.  I'd be interested in hearing from
you.
su-texas@webtv.net - 21 Jan 2007 21:59 GMT
quote:

I'm wondering if Tamoxifen caused any of the othe ladies out there to go
into menopaus sooner or had this affect. I'd be interested in hearing
from you.

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Dunno.

My period went haywire & basically stopped, shortly after I was severely
injured in Jan. 1998, in a fall on pavement, concrete. Due to ongoing
unsafe conditions at a shopping mall. Severely injured me head to toe.
Docs said (unofficially) I should never have survived the fall, & that
with even one of these many serious injuries, shouldn't want to. I did &
do.

The gynecologist was no help. The docs usually act dumb as dung,
smirking jerks about stuff like this.

Probably, many things can affect periods, menopause symptoms & such,
... but I doubt if most docs know or care anything about it.

Most things (including med care) are about money & meanness, abuse of
power & getting off on it, hypocrisy.

I don't know where you'd get some info & insight on meds doing the harm
necessary, to bring on menopause. I know that injuries do.

Good luck.

-------------

Perhaps there are more than one kind of menopause? That which comes
naturally. That which comes due to injuries & illness, damage from meds,
... a premature shut down or off, of some bodily functions.

Susan Wms, Su_Texas    my opinions

PS  It's very painful emotionally, to be prematurely aged against our
will, due to injuries or illness, which are not our fault. We get
robbed. Nothing's fair.

Life is the sick-sh*t that happens to us, when we were planning for, had
worked hard & prepared for, & were focused on doing other things, ....
overly deserved to to get to do other things, which we now can never do.

The worst betrayal of all, has been the docs & medical industry, ....
their lies, frauds, harm done, rip-offs, coldness & cruelty, desertion.
Also, the failure of the govt & legal systems, the corruption &
crime-rule, .... & the moral depravity, hypocrisy, sick needs & greeds,
weakness & cowardice in those communities that allow it.
allan - 22 Jan 2007 12:40 GMT
> PS  It's very painful emotionally, to be prematurely aged against our
> will, due to injuries or illness, which are not our fault. We get
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> crime-rule, .... & the moral depravity, hypocrisy, sick needs & greeds,
> weakness & cowardice in those communities that allow it.

Would you like a little cheese with that whine?  I find they go pretty
well together.
x{yz}enophil44@hotmail.com - 22 Jan 2007 14:21 GMT
>Life is the sick-sh*t that happens to us, when we were planning for, had
>worked hard & prepared for, & were focused on doing other things, ....
>overly deserved to to get to do other things, which we now can never do.

Su, I'm so sorry that all these things have happened to you, and I agree
that basically it's not fair, but life *isn't* fair.

I feel like you do in many ways, not because I had breast cancer, but
because I have other medical conditions, also not my fault, which
prevent me doing what I want to do.

I have to say that your situation sounds worse than mine, and it also
sounds as though you don't have much emotional support.  I'm very lucky
in having a marvellously supportive son and husband and many kind
friends.  Maybe you should speak to your family about how you feel and
see if someone amongst your relations will be able to provide the
emotional support you need.

I feel for you, but I think you should try to focus on something else,
otherwise the rest of your life will be miserable and bitter.  Since
I've had mobility problems I can no longer do any of the things I used
to do, and still long to do, but dwelling on that just makes me
miserable.  

I was always very active and among many other things, liked long country
walks, and I long to do them again.  The arthritis comes and goes, so
that sometimes I could do things like I used to do, except that I now
have an atrial fibrillation, which is getting worse, and I can't walk
more than a couple of hundred yards up a very slight slope without
stopping for a rest, so it looks as though my walking days are virtually
over.  I *do* get depressed about it, if I let myself, but instead I've
found other sedentary occupations, such as writing and painting which
make me happy.  I've also made a lot of friends through a creative
writing class and on the Internet.

Please find something to do which makes you happy, in spite of the pain
and sadness you feel.  I will be praying for you.

Geraldine.
su-texas@webtv.net - 22 Jan 2007 16:21 GMT
Thanks for caring, Geraldine, but for some reason, you're not able to
grasp the seriousness or complexity of the situation, to keep track of
the facts, the ongoing danger & degree of harm already done, nor my
reactions to this.

My approach to dealing with what has & is happening, is a positive one.
A good one.

I'm working to inform others, to inspire them to care about the failed
medical system, legal & govt systems, .... the amounts of harm being
done to us, & to others in our name & with our tax $$$, for which we are
responsible, .... to influence others to stop & think, to develop a soul
& some empathy, some worth, to not be & stay so self-focused, selfish,
determinedly dumb, .... to work for positive change also.

If I can stay alive for long enough, & keep working hard enough, then I
believe I can get an investigation into the crime-rule & corruption
here. And that this will force positive changes in govt.

Also, if patients start asking docs questions, not having blind
faith/trust in them, start expecting some good results & such, publicly
report bad treatments & results, warn & inform others,  .... then this
can force positive changes in health care.

Susan Wms, Su_Texas   my opinions
tkey2@provide.net - 23 Jan 2007 03:23 GMT
> I'm 48 female. Last year diagnosed with stage 1 LBrC
> Started Tamoxifen.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> into menopaus sooner or had this affect.  I'd be interested in hearing from
> you.

I am a survivor, I found out I had breast cancer 11 years ago. It was
chemo (not tamoxifen) that put me into an early menopause, actually I'm
thankful for that because it only lasted about 2 weeks. Hot sweats and
so on......I have friends that have been dealing with it for years....
I am thankful for every day, and proud that I made it through. Hope
helped me!!!!!!

Take Care,
A Survivor
Michele - 23 Jan 2007 06:21 GMT
Hi,

I started on tamoxifen a year ago after lumpectomy and radiation treatment.
I exercised alot and did not gain weight.
Mestrual periods stopped (I'm 52) but there are no other menopause side
effects like hotflashes or other...
I don't really miss periods, truthfully and not having to prepare for them
does not make me feel less of a woman.
During a check up with ultra-sounds , the doctor detected cysts in the
uterus, but after re-checking 2 weeks later, the conclusion was that it was
due to the tamoxifen, they come and go. But it does not  hurt or change my
appearance so it does not bother me.
I was ready to refuse to take tamoxifen after reading about all the side
effects and decided that  that was a decision I could always make after
having tried it. You hear mostly about the bad stuff because people don't
talk about when things are ok.
So, I just want to say, that there are probably a whole lot of people out
there  for whom tamoxifen is no more bothersome than taking an aspirin
every morning and that though I more than understand any reticence to our
being forced to take certain drugs, side effects do not affect everyone and
not in the same way  so don't expect the worse right away and I wish you the
best.

sincerely,
Michele

> I'm 48 female. Last year diagnosed with stage 1 LBrC
> Started Tamoxifen.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> into menopaus sooner or had this affect.  I'd be interested in hearing
> from you.
deb - 23 Jan 2007 17:43 GMT
I took Tamoxifen for three yrs. after lumpectomy and radiation for
Stage 1 BC.  Miscellaneous side effects were not terrible but I did
develop galloping cataracts at a relatively early age.  My oncologist
was aware of a relationship between Tamoxifen and cataracts (not
statistically proven as of about 2001) and, of course, many people will
develop these eventually.  In other words, this is not a reason to
avoid tamoxifen.

After three years, I was switched to Arimidex for two years and seemed
to have fewer of those misc. side effects.  The onc said some people
continue Arimidex indefinitely, but she and I agreed that without a
particular reason to take it longer, I would stop.

Best,

Deb
 
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