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tabitha - 24 Sep 2006 21:59 GMT
Any solutions please? I yearn for a decent nights sleep!
Pam Cook - 24 Sep 2006 23:09 GMT
> Any solutions please? I yearn for a decent nights sleep!

hi...Don't know if you are off soya at the moment , but I find a glass of
soya milk really helps.....Sometimes I just get up and lie on sofa in lounge
(where we have air-con)   but then I get cold when the 'flush' is over
lol... my onc told me there are meds available if it get too
un-bearable...but I don't want to resort to that if I can help it....u may
want to enquire...depends how you feel....hope you're soon feeling better
xx     Pam
A.P. Thorsen - 25 Sep 2006 01:49 GMT
>> Any solutions please? I yearn for a decent nights sleep!
>>
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> un-bearable...but I don't want to resort to that if I can help it....u may
> want to enquire...

Some people find a combination of vitamin E, vitamin C with bioflavinoids,
and vitamin B6 to be helpful.

Other than that, avoiding hot drinks, caffeine, or other triggers (which
you'll identify over time) may reduce the frequency or intensity.  A friend
of mine used to carry one of those folding paper fans (that you get at Asian
import stores, among other places) with her everywhere.  I've read that
deep, slow breathing will help if you start it when you feel a "spell"
coming on -- didn't help me, but YMMV (worth a try since it's cheap & low on
negative side effects <grin>).  They make a kind of soft ice pack (with a
white, pasty gel inside); I used to keep those in the freezer & put a towel
over one & put it on my pillow (neck level) at bedtime.  May help at least
until it warms to body temp.

And like Pam said, there are drugs -- I didn't go that route, but know that
friends have used various things (not HRT, but other drugs).  I think
there's an antidepressant that sometimes used off-label, and maybe a blood
pressure drug or something like that?  (Your doc should know.)

I never had the worst hot flashes -- probably only a few times a day to once
an hour, and they didn't usually waken me, so I was lucky.  However, they've
dramatically decreased over time.  I'm still on Arimidex, but rarely have
them anymore, and then I can usually tell they were triggered by a hot drink
or something like that.  It took a couple of years for the hot flashes to
taper off, which happened gradually.

The "soy solution" is controversial, if you had ER+ breast cancer.  Soy is a
phytoestrogen (plant-based estrogen-like compound).  Some reseach suggests
soy is neutral or beneficial for ER+ BC survivors; other research suggests
it could behave like estrogen & help tumors grow.  As of when I last read up
on it, the scientific research hadn't come to a definitive answer, so it's
one of those "decide for yourself"  or "ask your doctor" things, I guess.

There's a good article, from a reputable source, at
http://www.breastcancer.org/bey_cope_meno_hotFlash.html .  It talks about
what's know about hot flashes, research findings about triggers, alternative
remedies, etc.; and reviews some of the drug options.

Ann T.
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Sandy L - 25 Sep 2006 02:29 GMT
> Any solutions please? I yearn for a decent nights sleep!

Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors such as Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, etc.
are said to help.
Tim Jackson - 25 Sep 2006 08:51 GMT
> Any solutions please? I yearn for a decent nights sleep!

Assuming this is hormone therapy related (Tamoxifen etc.) then have you
tried taking the pill at different times of day, or splitting it in half
and taking half in the morning and half at night?  That is supposed to help.

Tim Jackson
Jeannette - 29 Sep 2006 04:51 GMT
> Any solutions please? I yearn for a decent nights sleep!

> Any solutions please? I yearn for a decent nights sleep!

I had horrid hot flashes after getting chemo-pause at age 42.  I am now 48.
I'm talking 2-3 every hour- drenching flashes/flushes 24/7. No sleep.
Embarrassing at work- dripping sweat as I saw patients..  I felt like cancer
was a better way to go...

Tried Megace-no help; Clonidine patches- wouldn't stick I was so sweaty.
Yam  cream- worthless.  Stopped Tamoxifen- nothing.

Tried Effexor XR at 37.5 mg every morning-- relief within 2 days.
Paxil will work too.  Just know you will have side effects if you stop
taking them suddenly.
I only have mild flushes every so often- this has been a Godsend!- the down
side is all the SSRIs can effect your libido- but the benefits outweigh the
side effects in my case (although the husband may disagree!)
Jeannette
 
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