Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Breast Cancer / July 2006
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Esme - 11 Jul 2006 12:40 GMT Hello all! I write a number of real-life health stories and am looking for a woman aged 25-40 with a really upbeat attitude to their cancer. My editor has requested something along the lines of; "I survived cancer and look great despite my cancer treatment".
I know many of you may be feel some cynicism in talking about your experience of cancer but real-life magazine stories are actually one of the central places people go to to learn about health issues. They are really important in shaping attitudes and helping the public understand conditions such as cancer.
Do let me know if you think you fit the bill, or know someone who does. I'd love to speak to you. If you can't meet up, a chat over the phone will be fine.
Best wishes
Esme 07776 236 547
Mary Fisher - 11 Jul 2006 12:47 GMT > Hello all! > I write a number of real-life health stories and am looking for a woman > aged 25-40 That's ageist.
Mary
Barb - 11 Jul 2006 15:45 GMT >> aged 25-40 > > That's ageist. > > Mary I agree, Mary. I also think "looking great" rather misses the point! We've all had to get past the way surgery, chemo (and maybe radiation too) can make us look, but appearance surely isn't a focal point. Survival is the point. (With quality of life coming in there too).
Barb
Mary Fisher - 11 Jul 2006 17:17 GMT >>> aged 25-40 >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > can make us look, but appearance surely isn't a focal point. Survival is > the point. (With quality of life coming in there too). I wanted to say something like that but was too cross :-)
Thanks, Barb.
Mary
> Barb A. P. Thorsen - 11 Jul 2006 20:32 GMT > Hello all! > I write a number of real-life health stories and am looking for a woman [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Esme > 07776 236 547 I survived stage III breast cancer (for almost 6 years so far), have a super-upbeat attitude (ask anyone), love my post-bilateral-mastectomy flat-top, look like bloody 'ell because I'm having too much fun to give a rat's a** about my appearance, and am too old for ya anyway (50).
There's a real-life health story . . . . hope that shapes your attitude & helps you and the public understand conditions such as cancer!
Cynicism, moi? <G> Jeesh!
Best wishes,
Ann T. Remove 'dontsendspam' from address to reply by email
Mary Fisher - 11 Jul 2006 20:49 GMT >> Hello all! >> I write a number of real-life health stories and am looking for a woman [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Cynicism, moi? <G> Jeesh! Never!
:-) Mary
Mary K Farrell - 11 Jul 2006 20:49 GMT Give 'em he ll, Ann! I'm too old, too (56), but I also don't give a rat's a** about appearance! It's the spirit of our souls that make us so dammmmned special!
Kate
PS: Yeah, I changed my name from "Mary K" to just plain ole "Kate"
> Esme wrote: >> Hello all! >> I write a number of real-life health stories and am looking for a woman >> aged 25-40 with a really upbeat attitude to their cancer. My editor >> has requested something along the lines of; "I survived cancer and look >> great despite my cancer treatment". >> >> I know many of you may be feel some cynicism in talking about your >> experience of cancer but real-life magazine stories are actually one of >> the central places people go to to learn about health issues. They are >> really important in shaping attitudes and helping the public understand >> conditions such as cancer. >> >> Do let me know if you think you fit the bill, or know someone who does. >> I'd love to speak to you. If you can't meet up, a chat over the phone >> will be fine. >> >> Best wishes >> >> Esme >> 07776 236 547 >> > > I survived stage III breast cancer (for almost 6 years so far), have a > super-upbeat attitude (ask anyone), love my post-bilateral-mastectomy > flat-top, look like bloody 'ell because I'm having too much fun to give > a rat's a** about my appearance, and am too old for ya anyway (50). > > There's a real-life health story . . . . hope that shapes your attitude > & helps you and the public understand conditions such as cancer! > > Cynicism, moi? <G> Jeesh! > > Best wishes, > > Ann T. > Remove 'dontsendspam' from address to reply by email
Mary Fisher - 11 Jul 2006 21:17 GMT > Give 'em he ll, Ann! I'm too old, too (56), but I also don't give a rat's > a** about appearance! It's the spirit of our souls that make us so > dammmmned special! Quite. But even so we do look rather special, don't we!
> Kate > > PS: Yeah, I changed my name from "Mary K" to just plain ole "Kate" I hope that wasn't on my account ... I didn't mind being confused with you
:-) Mary
Mary K Farrell - 11 Jul 2006 22:24 GMT Yes, we are extremely special-looking!! It's all part of our charm!
No, I didn't change my name on your account! ;-D Actually, I grew up being called Kathy or Kate. My hubby didn't like that because his prior wife was a Kathy. Now hubby is in a nursing home for Alzheimer's patients and hasn't a clue who I am! So, I decided to re-unvent my old self and get "back to normal"! ;-D ;-D ;-D
Kate
> > "Mary K Farrell" <medfit2@san.rr.com> wrote in message > news:8hTsg.27055$uy3.13868@tornado.socal.rr.com... >> Give 'em he ll, Ann! I'm too old, too (56), but I also don't give a rat's >> a** about appearance! It's the spirit of our souls that make us so >> dammmmned special! > > Quite. But even so we do look rather special, don't we! >> >> Kate >> >> PS: Yeah, I changed my name from "Mary K" to just plain ole "Kate" > > I hope that wasn't on my account ... I didn't mind being confused with you > :-) > > Mary > >
Mary Fisher - 12 Jul 2006 10:02 GMT > Yes, we are extremely special-looking!! It's all part of our charm! > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Kate Kate, I like you and your style :-)
Mary
Esme - 14 Jul 2006 14:18 GMT Ooh, a good few feisty fifty-somethings...great stuff!
You lot might not be remotely interested but have you seen the charity 'Look good, feel better'? (www.lookgoodfeelbetter.co.uk). It's the cosmetic industry's charity and they donate lots of top brand cosmetics, beauticians donate their time and free make-over/pampering sessions are held at hospitals round the country to make woman that have gone through cancer treatment feel a great deal better about themselves. Erm, I don't think you ladies need any help on that front..!
If you do know of anyone under 40 (yes, it's probably ageist..) that might like to chat to me, do get them to give me a bell! Esme 07776 236 547 esmemcavoy@gmail.com
> > Yes, we are extremely special-looking!! It's all part of our charm! > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Mary Mary Fisher - 14 Jul 2006 15:18 GMT > Ooh, a good few feisty fifty-somethings...great stuff! > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > themselves. Erm, I don't think you ladies need any help on that > front..! I'm in UK - most members of this ng aren't.
Back in 1998 when I had surgery and radiotherapy treatment (and subsequently five years of medication) for breast cancer we were offered the Look Good Feel Better pack. I went to the session at the Yorkshire Cancer Centre with a new friend, Miriam, from the ward. We were shown how to apply various products by a dolly bird who admitted that she wouldn't go out of the house without her false eyelashes. That amused us all, especially the women who were still affected by chemotherapy. Well, I say amused but scorned might have been closer to the truth. Each of us was assessed for skin type and colouring because, presumably, we couldn't do that for ourselves (did we come from a generation which had never used make-up?), and what Miriam called our 'cat boxes' (they looked like small cardboard pet carriers) full of preparations were given to us after the patter.
After the training session Miriam and I went into the garden, found a little, rather beautiful, sheltered spot and 'did' each other with our respective unguents and colours, then we took photographs. We both agreed that we didn't look real - but we did match the image of our tutor and she'd have been proud of what we'd achieved.
Some of the women had gone because they'd heard that the products were worth a lot of money, they didn't care what they were, they intended giving them to friends as valuable presents.
I see my cat box every day, it's on the bedroom floor. I don't know what to do with it, I've never used any of the stuff but it seems a dreadful waste to throw it out even though it will be out of date now.
Miriam's didn't get as far as the inside of her house.
I occasionally see fellow survivors and of course we discuss many things, including the cat boxes and their contents. Only two have used them. We think that it was a generous offer and well meant but as much about marketing as charity. Cosmetic companies get a good reputation from that sort of action.
Cynical? Probably. There would have been more appropriate 'gifts' than those which emphasised how important it is perceived to "look good". Feeling good comes from within, not without.
Of course I only relate what happened to me and those I knew in a snapshot of time. It might not be representative of all bc survivors. As I said, many women went and took away their packs with enthusiasm - but for might be considered to be unintended reasons.
> If you do know of anyone under 40 (yes, it's probably ageist..) that > might like to chat to me, do get them to give me a bell! I wonder why you want younger women. There are fewer under 40 bc candidates than those of us who are older. Perhaps it's for a lifestyle magazine or something where you can show glamour photographs. Such things aren't important to most of us, we enjoy life, not our reflections.
It reminds me of when Woman's Hour asked me to get someone to talk about a particular topic (not breast cancer): "with young-sounding voices". I asked what was meant by "young". "Oh, under thirty" said the producer.
WHAT? And WHY? I mean, is Jenni Murray under thirty?
Pah.
Mary
x{yz}enophil44@hotmail.com - 14 Jul 2006 16:00 GMT >It reminds me of when Woman's Hour asked me to get someone to talk about a >particular topic (not breast cancer): "with young-sounding voices". I asked >what was meant by "young". "Oh, under thirty" said the producer. > >WHAT? And WHY? I mean, is Jenni Murray under thirty? I'm pretty sure that my voice still sounds much as it did when I was under 30. Ocasionally I hear my recorded voice and I'm amazed at how young I still sound.
Do voices age?
Mary Fisher - 14 Jul 2006 16:04 GMT >>It reminds me of when Woman's Hour asked me to get someone to talk about a >>particular topic (not breast cancer): "with young-sounding voices". I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Do voices age? Quite.
I've always been called "Sir" when ringing some companies, especially motor factors and plumbers' merchants :-)
I was an alto at 13!
Mary
alex - 15 Jul 2006 02:20 GMT Mary,
It dawned on me that you live in northern England. My son is going to York, St John next semester. Do you live near there? Alex
>>>It reminds me of when Woman's Hour asked me to get someone to talk about >>>a [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Mary Mary Fisher - 15 Jul 2006 10:11 GMT > Mary, > > It dawned on me that you live in northern England. My son is going to > York, St John next semester. Do you live near there? > Alex Two of our 'children' were at York St John's, we're twenty five miles from York. They used to cycle home at weekends. One was there at the time of Lockerbie, a friend was one of the American exchange students there and was on that plane :-( It had a profound effect on the whole College.
If you visit your son I'd love to meet you and show you York or any part of England. If your son comes to Leeds for any reason and needs to crash we have a spare bed here. Leeds is very attractive to young folk, apparently. We like it too :-)
I corresponded (in writing!) for some years with a Wa beekeeper. In 1990 he and his wife came to York, they'd been often before, since the 1940s. We met for the first time there. This time they saw York through my eyes, who've known it and seen changes all my life, they said it was a different place from what the tourist guides had shown them!
On the strength of that they invited me to stay with them in Puget Sound, they wanted to do for me what I'd done for them. I went, twice, and it was fabulous!
Rambling again, sorry ...
Mary
x{yz}enophil44@hotmail.com - 15 Jul 2006 11:00 GMT >we're twenty five miles from York. Do you know, I thought you lived in Scotland, Mary.
I live across the Yorkshire border in Newcastle, myself.
Mary Fisher - 15 Jul 2006 11:19 GMT >>we're twenty five miles from York. > > Do you know, I thought you lived in Scotland, Mary. That's Anne :-)
> I live across the Yorkshire border in Newcastle, myself. Hurrah!
The further north you go the better the quality of life :-)
I think.
Mary
x{yz}enophil44@hotmail.com - 15 Jul 2006 11:48 GMT >>>we're twenty five miles from York. >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >The further north you go the better the quality of life :-) I agree with that in almost every respect.
I *do* miss the Festival Hall, The Anvil in Basingstoke, The Tate Gallery and the British Museum, though.
I don't miss the traffic and the cattle-truck conditions on the tubes and trains.
The Laing is very good, but it doesn't have any good Turners. Sob!
I've not yet managed to get to the Sage Centre, but it's supposed to be very good. They don't do so much of the purely classical music, though, and when they *do* have something we might like to go to, the prices are horrible.
OTOH, in Newcastle we have the wonderful Lit & Phil. I love it.
Geraldine
Mary Fisher - 15 Jul 2006 14:03 GMT >>>>we're twenty five miles from York. >>> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > The Laing is very good, but it doesn't have any good Turners. Sob! We have a lot in Leeds.
Hint ...
> I've not yet managed to get to the Sage Centre, but it's supposed to be > very good. They don't do so much of the purely classical music, though, > and when they *do* have something we might like to go to, the prices are > horrible. > > OTOH, in Newcastle we have the wonderful Lit & Phil. I love it. You're so CULTURED :-)
Mary
x{yz}enophil44@hotmail.com - 15 Jul 2006 16:16 GMT ><x{yz}enophil44@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> OTOH, in Newcastle we have the wonderful Lit & Phil. I love it. > >You're so CULTURED :-) Nah! I just know what I like!
alex - 15 Jul 2006 16:55 GMT My son is very excited to go. He attends York College in Penn and they do this exchange one to one. So far I have been very impressed the way York, St John has been processing his trip. We are planning to visit him the end of November. We are flying into London and then going to York. It looks like the train is the best way. The two colleges seem very similar, size and philosophy of education.My son is a history major so he feels he can learn allot in England. He is thinking of buying a used bike once he gets over.
He will not have internet access in his room or a phone, so he is looking to buy a cell phone once he gets there. It would be great to meet you. Alex
Mary Fisher - 15 Jul 2006 19:36 GMT > My son is very excited to go. He attends York College in Penn and they do > this exchange one to one. So far I have been very impressed the way York, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > to buy a cell phone once he gets there. It would be great to meet you. > Alex My mail address works. Use it ;-)
Mary
A. P. Thorsen - 18 Jul 2006 15:30 GMT > I've always been called "Sir" when ringing some companies, especially motor > factors and plumbers' merchants :-) Oooo! Me, too!
One can have quite a bit of fun with it, at times, especially in telemarketing calls . . . .
Ann T. Remove 'dontsendspam' from address to reply by email
Mary Fisher - 18 Jul 2006 17:20 GMT >> I've always been called "Sir" when ringing some companies, especially >> motor factors and plumbers' merchants :-) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > One can have quite a bit of fun with it, at times, especially in > telemarketing calls . . Indeed!
And with callers to husband and No 3 son, apparently we all sound similar!
Mary
A. P. Thorsen - 18 Jul 2006 15:29 GMT > Ooh, a good few feisty fifty-somethings...great stuff! > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > themselves. Erm, I don't think you ladies need any help on that > front..! The American Cancer Society runs a similar program here in the U.S., for those who may be interested. See:
http://tinyurl.com/kqd73
Ann T. Remove 'dontsendspam' from address to reply by email
kilikini - 12 Jul 2006 12:07 GMT > Yes, we are extremely special-looking!! It's all part of our charm! > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Kate Great story, but sorry to hear about the hubby. :~)
kili
María - 11 Jul 2006 22:40 GMT I think the venerable poster should try Kylie... Oh, she's already taken...
María
> Hello all! > I write a number of real-life health stories and am looking for a woman [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Esme > 07776 236 547
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