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su-texas@webtv.net - 27 Apr 2006 05:03 GMT
"Super Miracle Mouthwash"

Monday, I phoned the Cancer Center, & got a list of the ingredients in
this:

1. Benadryl

2. Lidocaine -- numbing

3. Hydrocortisone -- steroid

4. Tetracycline -- antibiotic

5. Nystatin -- antifungal

It's a special mix.

I was given this, for internal radiation burns, to esophagus & stomach.
Treatment for bone mets to spine.

I think that "Miracle Mouthwash" is a different product & formula.

Susan Wms, Su_Texas  my opinions
J - 28 Apr 2006 21:54 GMT
> "Super Miracle Mouthwash"
>
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>
> I think that "Miracle Mouthwash" is a different product & formula.

I think "Miracle Mouthwash" probably doesn't have the nystatin nor the
antibiotic.
We've been compiling lists of products to help with RT side effects and we
do have a blend by an oncologist, but some patients are left on their own
to research and buy their own.
Are yours supplied for free?
Also there are compounding pharmacies (on the internet). - but I don't know
how their prices compare if also purchased/available at a cancer centre.
I'll put all this in a (hopefully) little hopefully so thanks again for the
prompter about miracle mouthwash.
Sending healing wishes to you.
J
Pat from Apple Valley, CA - 28 Apr 2006 23:04 GMT
I got mine fromt the Pharmacy, It was a mixed concoction called Magic
Mouthwash. I never worked more that 10 minutes at a time. I found that
if I used straight Lidocaine on a swab about every 15 mintes it did the
same thing, lasted longer and tasted better...Pat from Apple Valley. ca

>>"Super Miracle Mouthwash"
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> Sending healing wishes to you.
> J
J - 29 Apr 2006 01:08 GMT
> I got mine fromt the Pharmacy, It was a mixed concoction called Magic
> Mouthwash. I never worked more that 10 minutes at a time. I found that
> if I used straight Lidocaine on a swab about every 15 mintes it did the
> same thing, lasted longer and tasted better...Pat from Apple Valley. ca

Hello Pat,
Was that for mouth sores from chemo?  It's sure to help others here and
alt.support.cancer, as well.

I started out compiling tips for those who were having RT +/- Chemo for head and
neck cancers, but I can certainly add your tip to the (hopefully) little FAQ as
well. Thank you.
J
Pat from Apple Valley, CA - 29 Apr 2006 21:19 GMT
Yes, It was for mouth sores. When I was on my Initial chemo A/C in
2000....Wow. It was the worst side effect I had in all the treatments I
had. I thought I would die. I had a small saline dropper for my
Contacts. Washed it out and filled it with the Lidocaine. Carried it in
my purse..I was constantly putting it on.. Other wise I couldn't talk...
    The Magic Mouthwash didn't have any stick-to-it-ness...If that is a
word...Pat

>>I got mine fromt the Pharmacy, It was a mixed concoction called Magic
>>Mouthwash. I never worked more that 10 minutes at a time. I found that
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> well. Thank you.
> J
J - 29 Apr 2006 22:21 GMT
> Yes, It was for mouth sores. When I was on my Initial chemo A/C in
> 2000....Wow. It was the worst side effect I had in all the treatments I
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>         The Magic Mouthwash didn't have any stick-to-it-ness...If that is a
> word...Pat

Yes, it's a word Pat. Or let's put it this way, we know what you mean.

Some use ulcerease; it's about $6.00 US for a 6 oz bottle, but it's an anesthetic
spray, so I can't see it having much stick-to-it-ness, especially if a person's
drinking or eating. Seems to me the protection would wear off. There's also Gelclair.
The gel probably works better for stick-to-it-ness, but again eating or drinking would
probably degrade the coverage. And it's expensive.
Gelclair comes in 15 ml packets
1 packet  $68.25 3 packets  $204.75 4 packets  $273.00 5 packets  $341.25 6 packets
$409.50
(those prices were taken from their webpage a few weeks ago)
One person got samples, I think, from his dentist but when it came time to pay
himself, he opted for Ulcerease.
Two, I don't know yet, they're still in (radiation therapy) treatment.  Both are
having RT and chemo, at the same time (for head and neck - mouth or nasal cancers)  So
they also get dry mouth and another nasty side effect, that's probably best to not
mention but complicates the situation and presents catch-22s.

I think I've seen aloe mentioned, as well, probably a gel, but I'm not sure.

Good thinking about the saline dropper.
Some "beauty products" might come in small enough containers with screw tops (so they
don't leak), that might work as well.

I was just thinking that I don't recall a topic about mouth sores here, for maybe
several years.
So maybe this thread is helping more people than we know (people who just read).
Thanks for your input, Pat.
J
x[yz]enophil44@hotmail.com - 30 Apr 2006 00:38 GMT
>I was just thinking that I don't recall a topic about mouth sores here, for maybe
>several years.
>So maybe this thread is helping more people than we know (people who just read).
>Thanks for your input, Pat.

Here in the UK, I was re ently prescribed Difflam mouthwash for mouth
sores during chemotherapy.
J - 30 Apr 2006 17:00 GMT
"x[yz]enophil44"@hotmail.com wrote:

> >I was just thinking that I don't recall a topic about mouth sores here, for maybe
> >several years.
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> Here in the UK, I was re ently prescribed Difflam mouthwash for mouth
> sores during chemotherapy.

Thank you. I've included that in the 2nd draft and am currently awaiting comments as
to corrections.
J
su-texas@webtv.net - 29 Apr 2006 00:17 GMT
I got the "super miracle mouthwash" from the Cancer Center pharmacy.
It's a special mix. Compound, compounding (?).

It was given to me, for the internal burns in esophagus & stomach, from
radiation treatments to bone mets, spine. Between shoulders (thoracic),
& also in lower lumbar.

I was told to swish it in mouth, then slowly let it trickle down throat.

I have good health insurance, which costs an awful lot each month, &
which I got for working at the Post Office. So I paid five or ten
dollars (the co-pay) for this mix.

Hope this answers questions.

I've been posting what info I get, in the hope it will help others.

Susan Wms, Su_Texas  my opinions
J - 29 Apr 2006 01:13 GMT
> I got the "super miracle mouthwash" from the Cancer Center pharmacy.
> It's a special mix. Compound, compounding (?).
>
> It was given to me, for the internal burns in esophagus & stomach, from
> radiation treatments to bone mets, spine. Between shoulders (thoracic),
> & also in lower lumbar.

This is sure to be of help.
Thank you Susan. I know you were fatigued and the RT probably worsened it.
Please know that will improve.
J
 
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