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Mastectomy Legislation

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Stinkweed - 30 Sep 2003 21:55 GMT
IN GOD WE TRUST.

> MASTECTOMY LEGISLATION
>
> Important info for all women: Please forward this to everyone in  your
address book. This is a time when our voices and choices should be heard.
This takes about 30 seconds to vote on this issue...and send it on to others
you know who will do the same.

> There's a bill called the Breast Cancer Patient Protection Act which will
require insurance companies to cover a minimum 48-hour hospital stay for
patients undergoing a mastectomy. It's about eliminating the
> "drive-through mastectomy" where women are forced to go home hours after
surgery against the wishes of their doctor, still groggy from anesthesia and
sometimes with drainage tubes still attached.

> Lifetime Television has put this bill on their web page with a petition
drive to show your support. Last year over half the House signed on.

> PLEASE!!!! Sign the petition by clicking on the web site below andhelp
women with breast cancer get the care they need and deserve!!

> There is no cost or monetary pledge involved. You need not give more than
your  name and zip code number.

http://www.lifetimetv.com/reallife/bc/pledges/bc_mast_pledge.html

> PLEASE PASS THIS ON. THANKS
>
> It's easy; you only have to give name and zip code.
Anthony - 01 Oct 2003 01:38 GMT
> > There's a bill called the Breast Cancer Patient Protection Act which will
> require insurance companies to cover a minimum 48-hour hospital stay for
> patients undergoing a mastectomy.

There's always going to be a push and pull between those who provide
services and those who pay for them, and sometimes the result will not be
good.  But do we really want legislation to cover the minimum hospital stay
for each and every procedure?  Don't we have enough laws on the books
already?
magna95@webtv.net - 01 Oct 2003 04:22 GMT
>There's a bill called the Breast Cancer Patient
> Protection Act which will
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> for each and every procedure? Don't we have
> enough laws on the books already?

Yes we do but unfortunately, they aren't always the "right"  laws when
it comes to what is best for our medical care.  I have already writtten
to all my reps and senators and anyone else I think can help with this
issue.  Unless you have been a "victim" of one of those "drive through"
fiascos, you may not be able to unappreciate the experience of the
ordeal.  Even with the best of doctors, it can be a very frightening
experience for a woman.  It at least should be left to the decision of
the doctor and patient as to whether they feel they need the extra day,
IMO and not in the control of the insurance companies.

Bea
Anthony - 02 Oct 2003 01:29 GMT
<magna95@webtv.net> wrote in message news:27240-3F7A486B-613@storefull->  It
at least should be left to the decision of
> the doctor and patient as to whether they feel they need the extra day,
> IMO and not in the control of the insurance companies.
>
> Bea

Yes, but if there's to be a law surely it should say just that in a general
way and not specify that for this particular procedure a minimum hospital
stay of such and such is required.
Lbucc - 01 Oct 2003 12:31 GMT
I know that we've been through this before, but here we are again.

I once more would like to voice my opinion that I think that this is a BAD
idea.  Unless there is a medical reason why someone must remain in the
hospital, I think that  they should be released as soon as possible.  The worst
place to be is in the hospital among all those germs.  My older sister is a
nurse (and has been since the late '60s so she's been around a bit) and she
helped get me free ASAP following my mastectomy.

Perhaps people who have not had this surgery hear the word "mastectomy" and,
not knowing what a simple procedure it usually is, think that a "drive through
mastecotmy" is a travesty.

It's a YMMV deal.  Some people may have to remain hospitalized if they have
problems but the majority will be able to go home very quickly.  To vote in
legislation that forces people to stay in the hospital for X amount of days
just doesn't make sense, both for the patient and for the insurance industry.

...lisa
magna95@webtv.net - 01 Oct 2003 23:54 GMT
>To vote in legislation that forces people to stay
> in the hospital for X amount of days just
> doesn't make sense, both for the patient and
> for the insurance industry.

>...lisa

Lisa, the way I understood it was that the legislation is not to force
people to stay in the hospital longer than their doctors decide upon but
that the decision is "up to the doctor" and if he or she feels the
patient needs that extra day then their medical insurance should pay for
it.  It also isn't fair that the insurance industry should make this
decision and refuse payment if the patient needs the extra day.   If the
insurance industry would cooperate there would be no need for government
involvement and that would be best for all of us.

Bea
SssynSmrt - 03 Oct 2003 20:30 GMT
For what it's worth, it's the insurance companies that don't want patients to
stay any longer than necessary.  

They went through this with mothers giving birth and discovered if the mother
opted to stay an extra day, they were less likely to be paying for visits back
to the hospital, ER, or doctor because mother and baby went home too soon.
Having legislation doesn't mean they have to stay, only that they can if they
want.

A lot of people require a very short stay due to a variety of factors.  Others
don't bounce back as well, have no one at home to help them, and would benefit
from staying an extra night.

I have been hospitalized three times, twice I felt I could have benifited from
just 1 more day.  Instead, they literally kicked me out telling me that my
insurance company would not cover any additional time.

:-)
Kaye301 - 04 Oct 2003 18:14 GMT
SssynSmrt wrote << I have been hospitalized three times, twice I felt I could
have benifited from
just 1 more day.  Instead, they literally kicked me out telling me that my
insurance company would not cover any additional time.

It shouldn't be a blanket policy either way but on an individual case basis at
the discretion of the physician  based on the individual needs of that patient
and any other involved, related circumstances.  Period!
madiba - 05 Oct 2003 21:53 GMT
> I have been hospitalized three times, twice I felt I could have benifited from
> just 1 more day.  Instead, they literally kicked me out telling me that my
> insurance company would not cover any additional time.
Dear God is this the American Way? Medical decisions taken out of the
hands of the MD and made in the boardroom of some insurance company. I
pray that I will no longer be practicing by the time this crap washes up
on european shores..

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