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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Breast Cancer / August 2005

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Barb - 09 Aug 2005 21:30 GMT
have twice tried to respond to your post titled "Deborah's Update", and
twice no message from me is on the group.  Giving this a whirl----responding
as if it's an original post, rather than a reply.

I hope that Deborah's feeling better after her chemo infiltrated tissue.  I
had a similar thing happen many, many years ago when a needle in a vein in
my hand backed up enough to put my chemo into surrounding tissue.  Looked
like a chemical burn (from the inside out) and stung like heck for a while,
but resolved on it's own with no lasting effect.

It's good that you can be relieved that there is something  showing up on a
lung "picture".....at least you know where the problem may lie.  Can fully
understand why you'd be concerned with brain mets.  Can radiation be done on
such, or is all treatment systemic at this point?  Wishing you the very best
as you wait for additional answers.

Also sending along my condolences regarding the passing of Dr. Nick.  My
folks have been gone for a while now, but I still miss them.  Hope that
there is comfort in wonderful memories.  Please tell Deborah that I am
thinking about her.

Barb
allan_grossman@hotmail.com - 10 Aug 2005 15:02 GMT
> have twice tried to respond to your post titled "Deborah's Update", and
> twice no message from me is on the group.  Giving this a whirl----responding
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> there is comfort in wonderful memories.  Please tell Deborah that I am
> thinking about her.

Thank you, Barb  ;-)

I think this is the second time we've done the chemo infiltration thing
- when I asked her about it yesterday she said she was still a little
sore but things were getting better.

Yeah - after so many years on Herceptin with rising markers and no
tumors found I was a little concerned about brain mets.  Since
Herceptin doesn't pass through the blood-brain barrier pretty well
(there's gotta be a technical term for that but I don't know what it
is) there have been some reports of statistically higher incidence of
brain metastases in women who have done Herceptin.

That's not because Herceptin causes increased incidence of brain mets
or anything awful like that, it's because Herceptin can be so good at
killing the nasties in other places that women who would have died of
lung or liver mets are living longer - and since the drug doesn't get
into your head very well it tends to kill the nasties everywhere but
there  ;-)

Now Lapatinib, on the other hand - is a small molecule drug and targets
both erbB1 and erbB2 (Her2).  Response rates in clinical trials are
still 25% to 35%, which ain't bad.  It ain't a cure, but it is
interesting.  Been watching this one closely  ;-)

I might be wrong, but I don't think they can irradiate lung tissue.
Maybe they can if that's the location of the primary tumor, but
Deborah's disease is treated as systemic.  I guess zapping secondary
tumors would work in the short term, but they'd grow back.

Anyway, thanks for the kind thoughts, Barb.  I'll pass those thoughts
on to Deborah.

hugs -

allan
 
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