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Eva - 18 Jul 2005 02:32 GMT
It was a year in April since I first felt the lump in my breast.  It was a
year June 30th since I was diagnosed.  I was just wondering, for those of
you who refer to yourselves as "breast cancer survivors," when did you start
calling yourself a survivor?  When did you stop saying "I have breast
cancer" and start saying "I *had* breast cancer?"

(The funny thing is that I'm so superstitious that I'm afraid I will attract
the attention of the Angel of Death just by asking this question.  This is
pitiful, I know, but it's a cultural thing.)

Eva
su-texas@webtv.net - 18 Jul 2005 04:11 GMT
(The funny thing is that I'm so superstitious that I'm afraid I will
attract the attention of the Angel of Death just by asking this
question. This is pitiful, I know, but it's a cultural thing.)

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Do not be afraid of death.

I believe that at the time of death, if you have chosen to live a good
life & done your best, that the Good Energy (God) will surround you, be
in & with you, support & comfort you, ..... & you will go back into this
energy, become a part of it & glory in it again, be as one with your
heavenly family & father.

I also believe that after death, our spirit/energy can divide & be in
many places at once, & that we can try to influence & protect others.

These are my theories.

While death is something to be avoided for as long as possible, when it
does come, it is to be welcomed & accepted, embraced as a new experience
& adventure, a challenge.

In death, your job, tests & trials here are over. Your choices recorded.

Whether you chose to serve good or evil, will determine which Energy
comes for you.

I'm sure that each of us hope for the best.

My great-grandfather (who seems to have been a good man), wrote of his
brother Texas's death (a result of being wounded in the Murfreesboro
Fight):

"I am in hopes he is in Heaven with the Blessed Ones, where pain &
sorrow are no more."

What I admire most in this, is his humility.

Susan, Su_Texas  my opinions
Bea - - 18 Jul 2005 13:33 GMT
>Do not be afraid of death.

>I believe that at the time of death, if you have
> chosen to live a good life & done your best,
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>These are my theories.
Su-Texas

Su-  I find your "theory" of God to be very profound but please know
that this is not just your theory.  I have a feeling you did not come to
this great profound understanding until "after" you had suffered much of
your great pain and anquish in your life.  If you know of any church
which teaches your "theory", I would love to know which one it is.  So
far, I know of no Christian Church which dares to explain God with such
reality.  I guess it is one of their great "mysteries" and we must
decifer this for ourselves after much pain and suffering.  

No matter how terrible you think your life is here, you have been given
a very special blessing with your understanding of life and the crossing
over to our other life.   Thank you for taking the time to share.
"Those who have ears to hear, will hear".

Bea
A. P. Thorsen - 18 Jul 2005 18:23 GMT
> It was a year in April since I first felt the lump in my breast.  It was a
> year June 30th since I was diagnosed.  I was just wondering, for those of
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> Eva

Hi, Eva,

I think "survivor" starts right away, and can co-exist with "have"
breast cancer as well as "had" it.   If you had/have it, and are here to
 talk about it, you are a survivor.   It's partly a matter of attitude
. . . I hope to be a survivor right up until the second I'm not, whether
it's BC or something else that eventually gets me.

I'm not sure even now whether I say "had", though, vs. "have" (nearly 5
years out from diagnosis).  I think I avoid that whole syntactic puzzle!

Oh . . . and if the Angel of Death starts to turn in your direction when
you ask questions like this, just jump right up & smack him, 'kay?

Ann T.
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allan_grossman@hotmail.com - 18 Jul 2005 18:35 GMT
I like 'survivor' better than 'victim' or 'patient'.  Survivors are
heroes.

;-)
Bea - - 18 Jul 2005 19:59 GMT
My former Oncologist got very abrupt with me after my surgery, Chemo,
and Radiation and I made the remark that I "have" bc.  He said "you
DON'T have it any longer!"  His contention seemed to be that once they
and we have done all we could to destroy it, then we should be
optimistic that it will not return and use the term "had" with reference
to it.  

I prefer to use the term "had" also because it helps me not dwell in an
atmosphere of thinking about bc constantly.  However, this is very hard
to do when they are constantly testing and probing my body to make sure
it has not returned.  But I still prefer "had" once the main course of
action is over.

Bea
Teddy - 18 Jul 2005 21:06 GMT
I feel like I don't have it now and never did.  That they made a
mistake.  Intellectually I realize I must have had it  but...........
 
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