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Kylie Minogue has had a diagnosis of breast cancer

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J - 18 May 2005 00:21 GMT
I think the news said that she's 37 years old.
J

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8122-1616321,00.html [click for
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May 17, 2005

Medical briefing: Kylie's chances of recovery are excellent
by Dr Thomas Stuttaford for Times Online
Kylie Minogue has had a diagnosis of breast cancer at the wrong age but at
the right time. She is at the wrong age because 6 per cent of all breast
cancer cases are in women under 40.

This is a much more important figure than you might think for two reasons.
Most cases of breast cancer occur in the very elderly, a disproportionate
amount, so if you are young you have not only more life-years at stake but
you may have children who are dependent on you.

But Kylie is at the right time because treatments for cancer of the breast
are improving literally week by week as new drugs are found.

It is very good news that Kylie made the discovery as a result of
self-examination. I am a great believer in both self-examination and
regular breast examinations from your own doctor.
Mary Fisher - 18 May 2005 10:08 GMT
>I think the news said that she's 37 years old.
> J

I was hoping that this group would be a haven of silence on that subject.

Which of us had the same news coverage when we were diagnosed?

Mary
J - 18 May 2005 10:19 GMT
> "J" <philomath@example.org> wrote in message
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> >I think the news said that she's 37 years old.
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> I was hoping that this group would be a haven of silence on that subject.

That "subject" is a person first.
A person with cancer.
And for all you know, Mary, she or others (in the public eye) may be already
posting here.
J
Mary Fisher - 18 May 2005 10:28 GMT
>> "J" <philomath@example.org> wrote in message
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I don't think I expressed my point well.

Mary
> J
J - 18 May 2005 12:06 GMT
> "J" <philomath@execulink.com> wrote in message
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> I don't think I expressed my point well.

Well, try again Mary, but before you do have a cuppa, I'll join you later. :-)
I think the important point of the articlee is not who, but the age and the
importance of doing a regular breast exam, even for younger persons. So maybe I
should have made the subject line reflect that?
What do you think?
Thanks
J
Mary Fisher - 18 May 2005 12:31 GMT
>> I don't think I expressed my point well.
>
> Well, try again Mary, but before you do have a cuppa, I'll join you later.
> :-)

No, whatever I say can be misconstrued.

> I think the important point of the articlee is not who, but the age and
> the
> importance of doing a regular breast exam, even for younger persons. So
> maybe I
> should have made the subject line reflect that?

We don't need a pop star's cancer to tell us that.

Mary
alex - 18 May 2005 13:18 GMT
Mary, I am with you and I understood you perfectly that is why I initially
didn't respond.  I think when you have a breast cancer diagnose you look at
things in a different way. When Suzanne Somers got diagnosed, she became an
instant expert on breast cancer. She also got offered many tests like a bone
marrow aspiration because of her celebrity status. While it is unfortunate
that any woman has to deal with breast cancer, a celebrity has many more
resources to deal with the whole experience.
Chris - 18 May 2005 18:24 GMT
I don't know who we is. I suspect that lots of women in their 30s don't
take the cancer threat seriously enough. People are floored to find out
that I was diagnosed at 34 and then tend to look uncomfortable and
confess their laxness at breast self exams, etc.

On the other hand, yes yes yes, I would love any perks although not the
publicity of being a public person! There are very few perks to cancer
for us regular folks!

Chris

> > I think the important point of the articlee is not who, but the age and
> > the
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> Mary
A.P. Thorsen - 19 May 2005 18:11 GMT
>>I think the important point of the articlee is not who, but the age and
>>the
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> We don't need a pop star's cancer to tell us that.

Have to admit it kinda gets under my skin to read a "poor celebrity
poochie, she has stage 0 breast cancer, let us feel sad for her
tribulations and admire her stalwart bravery" kind of story.

Bunches of us got BC, many without celebrities' money, easy access to
the ultimate in health care that that money can buy, legions of support
staff to hand us a soothing beverage or mind the kiddies while various
sycophants stand by to hold our hand and comfort us in our hour of need,
etc.

On the other hand:

1.  There are probably a few celebrity heroine-worshipping idiots out
there who'll think "golly, if it can happen to celebrity golden girl
so-and-so, maybe it can happen to me" and submit to better screening.
Even celebrity heroine-worshiping idiots shouldn't die from breast
cancer if we can avoid it (sigh), so anything that builds awareness is
probably good, however much it annoys me.

2.  Somewhere behind the press stupidity, Kylie Minogue is a real person
who
* didn't ask for BC, didn't ask for stupid publicity about it,
* probably feels as cranky as many of us do when treated like we've
achieved some special personal accomplishment by being lucky enough to
live through it,
*has friends and family who truly love her and are shaken at the
possibility of losing her, and
* generally behind it all is just another woman like us with breast
cancer who may need support at a personal level.

On the *other* other hand, some of these stories (and maybe their eager
readers) seem analogous to the crowds that stand around at the site of
automobile accidents hoping to see something grisly, without ever cluing
to the fact that this could happen to them (and they might not want an
audience if/when it did).

Humans!  Sometimes I despair of us!

(Can you tell I'm feeling cranky today <grin>?)

Ann T.
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Mary Fisher - 19 May 2005 18:20 GMT
>>>I think the important point of the articlee is not who, but the age and
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> (Can you tell I'm feeling cranky today <grin>?)

I can tell your maths is as good (i.e questionable) as mine :-)

Mary

> Ann T.
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J - 19 May 2005 19:29 GMT
> [..]and submit to better screening.
> Even celebrity heroine-worshiping idiots shouldn't die from breast
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> * generally behind it all is just another woman like us with breast
> cancer who may need support at a personal level.

* In the past, Minogue has auctioned one of her bras to raise money for
breast cancer research and worked to raise awareness of prostate cancer,
after her father was diagnosed with it.
Copyright 2005 Associated Press.
Mary Fisher - 19 May 2005 19:50 GMT
> * In the past, Minogue has auctioned one of her bras to raise money for
> breast cancer research and worked to raise awareness of prostate cancer,
> after her father was diagnosed with it.
> Copyright 2005 Associated Press.

OK, I'll auction TWO of my bras for the charity of your choice.

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I rest my case.

Mary
 
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