I think it is a no-no, as herbs, etc. like soy, black cohosh are. I feel
for you, just call me old sweaty head.
> Does anyone know if the OTC menopause natural remedy ESTROVEN can have
> the same effect (cancer wise) as if you were taking estrogen?
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> Gigglz
marilyn@utrillo.ac - 17 May 2005 16:56 GMT
>I think it is a no-no, as herbs, etc. like soy, black cohosh are. I feel
>for you, just call me old sweaty head.
My sister-in-law and I are trying to invent a velcro covering for a Mr
Freezee so she can tie one around her neck. (g)
Marilyn
Gigglz - 17 May 2005 23:54 GMT
>>I think it is a no-no, as herbs, etc. like soy, black cohosh are. I feel
>>for you, just call me old sweaty head.
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>Marilyn
Great idea! Let me know when I can get them :-)
Hugs,
Gigglz
Gigglz - 17 May 2005 23:54 GMT
Thank you! From one "sweaty head" to another :-)
Hugs,
Gigglz
>I think it is a no-no, as herbs, etc. like soy, black cohosh are. I feel
>for you, just call me old sweaty head.
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>> Gigglz
Sandy L - 18 May 2005 00:59 GMT
>I think it is a no-no, as herbs, etc. like soy, black cohosh are. I feel
> for you, just call me old sweaty head.
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>> Gigglz
Soy and dong quoy contain phytoestrogens; recent research indicates that
black cohosh does not. I hadn't known that but someone posted a link in
response to an erroneous statement I made. Black cohosh acts somewhat like
the SSRIs (Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, etc.). It actually helps for a lot of
people.
Gigglz - 18 May 2005 02:13 GMT
>>I think it is a no-no, as herbs, etc. like soy, black cohosh are. I feel
>> for you, just call me old sweaty head.
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>the SSRIs (Paxil, Prozac, Zoloft, etc.). It actually helps for a lot of
>people.
Thank you :-)
I'm just concerned about ESTROVEN acting like estrogen on my
body...hence making me at risk for estrogen-reactive breast cancer
like my mother has :-(
I already have a lump of my own, but haven't had it biopsied as of
yet.
Hugs,
Gigglz
> Does anyone know if the OTC menopause natural remedy ESTROVEN can have
> the same effect (cancer wise) as if you were taking estrogen?
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> Gigglz
Estroven claims to contain soy phytoestrogens, this appears to be the
relevant ingredient.
I don't think there is any evidence that soy increases the risk of a
primary cancer occurring, what evidence there is seems to point both
ways, but there is a suspicion that it may increase the risk of a
recurrence in patients who have had a cancer.
So the advice is that these patients should avoid soy based supplements
or a diet containing large amount of soy, although the amount of soy
found in processed foods etc. in a 'normal' western diet is probably
harmless.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say that someone who is at high
risk for breast cancer but has not actually had it, should avoid soy.
But I don't suppose anyone really knows.
Tim Jackson
Gigglz - 17 May 2005 23:55 GMT
Thank you, Tim. That makes sense.
Seems everything is a risk these days :-(
Hugs,
Gigglz
>> Does anyone know if the OTC menopause natural remedy ESTROVEN can have
>> the same effect (cancer wise) as if you were taking estrogen?
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>Tim Jackson