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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Breast Cancer / May 2005vein problems with chemo
Hi. last time I went for my chemo (FEC) 3 weeks ago, 3rd session of 6.... I mentioned that there was a hard vein about quarter of an inch long at the canular site, and the vein going up my forearm was red and sore....They said it sometimes happens and the nurse used the side of my wrist instead, with no apparent problems..they tried to use the same place today, but when the anti-sickness drug went in , it caused a swelling and redness just up from the canular, the nurse was sure she'd got the vein ok, but withdrew the needle, to be on the safe side, and did it in my other hand, the side where I had the sugery, saying they do it all the time....It worried me , the hard vein, then the swelling, then them doing it on the side of surgery...got more bothered about the effects of the canular than the drugs going in. does any-one know if this happens often? only 2 more sessions to go...will the red vein up my arm go eventually? also the hard vein ? I can roll it around and it feels quite solid. Still feeling well and doing horse and riding..Fingers crossed........weather helps..bit of sunshine always makes a difference, don't you think? Good thoughts to all Pam xx Pam, I'm sorry you've had problems with your veins during chemoand hope it improves. But, please, can you explain what you mean by 'canular'? Mary She probably meant cannula. > She probably meant cannula. Did I? I meant the actual nedle/channel they put in your hand spelt it as it sounds ,,, sorry never good at spelling, >> She probably meant cannula. >> > Did I? I meant the actual nedle/channel they put in your hand spelt > it > as it sounds ,,, sorry never good at spelling, Right, thanks. I'm still not much wiser though, never had chemo! I hope your arm DOESN'T drop off! Never heard of that happening although when mine's really painful I sometimes wish ... :-) Mary > Hi. > last time I went for my chemo (FEC) 3 weeks ago, 3rd session of 6.... > I mentioned that there was a hard vein about quarter of an inch long at the > canular site, and the vein going up my forearm was red and sore...., the hard > vein, then the swelling, then them doing it on the side of surgery...got > more bothered about the effects of the canular than the drugs going in. > does any-one know if this happens often? only 2 more sessions to go...will > the red vein up my arm go eventually? also the hard vein ? I can roll it > around and it feels quite solid. > Pam xx Hi Pam, My wife Liz had FEC 3 years ago. Only the other day, we looked at her forearm, and the slight channels she developed are still just visible - we hope they'll disappear completely one day. The red tinge vanished quite quickly, but the arm used to be stiff and sore, as well as showing the hard channel effect you mention. It started as you describe, and the veins used to "hide" from the needle. If you want to know any more about her experience, just email me, or Liz would be happy to call/email if you wish. But, as they say, it's all do-able. Best wishes, and keep going. Peter > > Hi. > > last time I went for my chemo (FEC) 3 weeks ago, 3rd session of [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Peter Hi, Thanks for that info...it's re-assuring to know it happens and that it will eventually fade...I don't know what i thought might happen...arm drop off maybe!!! lol amazing what awful scenarios go throught your mind Pam > Hi. > last time I went for my chemo (FEC) 3 weeks ago, 3rd session of 6.... > I mentioned that there was a hard vein about quarter of an inch long at the > canular site, and the vein going up my forearm was red and sore.... Sorry to hear about that. I've had a few problems as well during my three EC treatments - arm sore for up to four days after IV, and still not fully recovered, dark veins and such. Nurses gave me two tubes of something to put on my arm, but I cannot remember the active principle for the main one, probably some relative of the cortisone. I still have the leaflets and will look it up if you are interested. The other was Edeven, to take care of bruises, a mixture of escin/heparin/diethylamine salicylate(sp?). However, if you still have to face three rounds of this, perhaps you may consider getting a central venous catheter (CVC). It needs minor surgery to be inserted, and needs some maintenance, but avoids being stabbed every time. The option was discussed for my case, because of my veins problems, but the problem arose at the penultimate cycle so I went along with the cannulae. HTH Chiara >> Hi. >> last time I went for my chemo (FEC) 3 weeks ago, 3rd session of [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] >raising up the skin, if the skin takes a long time to return to where you >started you are dehydrated... Paul >>Hello, I had the same thing happen to me, an elderly nurse told me that I >>was dehydrated & should drink a lot of water & the sure enough it cleared >>up. She told me how to check for dehydration, pinch the back of your hand >>raising up the skin, if the skin takes a long time to return to where you >>started you are dehydrated... Or old :- Mary > >>Hello, I had the same thing happen to me, an elderly nurse told me that I > >>was dehydrated & should drink a lot of water & the sure enough it cleared [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Thanks for the onfo, evry-one.... I don't think it's de-hydration cos I drink loads on the day of chemo, I take a litre bottle of water and re-fill it from the water dispenser in the hospital..... Only 2 to go now so hope-fully will not get too bad... Does 53 count as old Mary?????? I must say I have noticed that I am getting more tired.... rode out this morning and did jobs , Bobby came home for lunch which I made ( for him and two visitors ) then I had to lay on settee and slept for 2 hours !!!!!Thank goodness they won't let me go to work, Would fall asleep and get the sack !!!!! No other side-effects... love to all xx >> Does 53 count as old Mary?????? Not in skin terms, as a rule. I found it fascinating to pull up the skin on my hand and see it stay there, it began when I was about sixty I think. Still do it. Little things ... :-) What's worse (nothing to do with bc) is that the skin on my hands is more and more fragile, it breaks at the slightest damage, even from my own fingernails. As for the general implication in your question, I've no idea what age counts as old. I'm fed up of people sayng that you're as old as you feel although I know what they mean - but no-one ever takes me up on my offer of, "Feel me, tell me how old I am!" :-) Inside I'm about ten. One day I might grow up. Outside people say I'm about fifty or so. The Birth Certificate affirms that I'm sixty six. Mary >>> Does 53 count as old Mary?????? > > Not in skin terms, as a rule. > > I found it fascinating to pull up the skin on my hand and see it stay there, > it began when I was about sixty I think. Still do it. Little things ... :-) I noticed the skin on the back of my hand was getting perceptibly slower to recover from being pinched a few years ago, and I'm 54. It now takes about half a second, and it's a lot slower than my 11 year old daughter's. We've both got (or at least I had) quite elastic skin, I don't have much in the way of wrinkles yet, so maybe that's a factor. Tim "Tim Jackson" <tim@tim-jackson.co.uk> wrote in message news:429264c5$0$83291$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp->> >>>> Does 53 count as old Mary?????? >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > to recover from being pinched a few years ago, and I'm 54. It now takes > about half a second, and it's a lot slower than my 11 year old daughter's. Young skin is so elastic it could be used in knickers! > We've both got (or at least I had) quite elastic skin, I used to too ... :-( > I don't have much in the way of wrinkles yet, so maybe that's a factor. Hmm. It's amazing how much different lighting shows up! Not that it should be a problem, wrinkles come with wisdom. So you must have lots, somewhere :-) Mary > Tim |
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