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Pat from Apple Valley, CA - 29 Sep 2003 17:19 GMT
Alert!
   I just received 2 messages that contained a virus. Thankfully my
Norton removed them before thay got to me. I did notice that everyone on
the send-to list was on this newsgroup. Tim, Allan, su-texas, kay301,
you get the picture. I have been receiving 80-100 mailings a day with
this very virus, tho this is the first time I have seen addresses I
recognize...Maybe someone on this list has the virus. I suggest you all
scan your computers for viruses. I scan mine daily and have found non.
This message will also be scanned before going out.. Thanks Pat from
Apple Valley, CA
Kaye301 - 29 Sep 2003 18:11 GMT
Pat wrote << Allan, su-texas, kay301,
you get the picture. I have been receiving 80-100 mailings a day with
this very virus, >>

I don't think it came through to our computer.  What was the subject of the
thread?  We are using a MAC and aol--both of which helps protect against those.
Kaye301 - 29 Sep 2003 18:13 GMT
<< I have been receiving 80-100 mailings a day with
this very virus >>

Wow, and I thought I had it bad with maybe 10 to 15 junk mails/day.  Again, I
do think using a MAC and aol help keep these to a minimum--at least for now and
probably should not advertise if should the perpetrator read this...
Mary Fisher - 29 Sep 2003 20:31 GMT
> << I have been receiving 80-100 mailings a day with
> this very virus >>
>
> Wow, and I thought I had it bad with maybe 10 to 15 junk mails/day.  Again, I
> do think using a MAC and aol help keep these to a minimum--at least for now and
> probably should not advertise if should the perpetrator read this...

The vandals who do this aren't reading individual mails or posts, they have
programmes which can pick out addresses. Even 'spamtrapper' addresses aren't
safe.

Last weekend I was getting c 2,000 a day. My virus checker saw to the fangs
and I never open anything I'm not expecting. But simply getting my screen
filled with these things effectively immobilised my internet.

I managed to get through to my ISP. Others were experiencing the same
problem. The techies there sorted it, that's a benefit of having a small,
caring ISP whose customers really matter.

But I would add that Mac users were getting them, aol users were getting
them, people with and without web sites were getting them. Some were
distressed by having 40 a day, a few were unlucky enough to have as many as
I did. Some newsgroup readers thought that their particular groups were
being targeted. They weren't, every internet user - EVERYONE - is a
potential victim.

If you get things with attachments just don't open them without checking the
sender - if you know the sender. And not always then - I've had some
purporting to come from Mary Fisher!

I hope that eventually they'll stop but I suspect that some clever so and so
will find a way of doing even more damage :-(

I don't understand the technology but I was reliably (I think) informed that
it wasn't a virus and it wasn't a worm - it was a Trojan horse - something
coming in an apparently innocent package.

Mary
Pat from Apple Valley, CA - 29 Sep 2003 21:25 GMT
 WOW!!! I really thought I had it bad but compared to your problem I
was let off easy. I have been getting the standard Microsoft patch one
and one about undelivered mail but this one was worded different and had
a lot of names from this list that I recognized in the header. My Norton
called it  W32Swen.a@mm And explained it....So I guess it was the same
worm just worded differently.  My Norton Pro. is working well, and I am
glad...
   "This worm exploits a vulnerability in Microsoft Outlook and Outlook
Express in an attempt to execute itself when you open or even preview
the message. Information and a patch for the vulnerability can be found
at:  www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-020.asp."
   They all went straight to my trash, but unfortunatly some of my real
mail does to so I scan the titles. before deleting.
   Now if I could just get rid of the drug and penis adds I would be a
happy lady. My ISP will only deal with those spammers that do it from
their Company.
Pat
 

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Kaye301 - 30 Sep 2003 00:17 GMT
Pat wrote <<    "This worm exploits a vulnerability in Microsoft Outlook and
Outlook
Express in an attempt to execute itself when you open or even preview
the message. Information and a patch for the vulnerability can be found
at:  www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-020.asp.">>

Last month we moved our daughter into college.  We waited 'til we got there to
get her a computer since their student store had comparable prices.  She had
wanted some type of PC (for the games more than anything).  She moved in after
the week after the worm had 'hit.'  Over the previous weekend an acquaintance
who is a prof at the same U had emailed me that he was unable to obtain some
info I had requested because the U had been infected by the worm.  
The first thing I did when we got to the computer store on campus was ask the
clerk in the repair area if they had had any problems with the worm.  He looked
at me and shook his head--said they had just taken in 60 computers that morning
that needed to be de-wormed.  I asked if any were MAC's and he said, 'no,' that
they aren't affected.  Then we went in to look at the different computers.  The
salesgirls said that all the ones they had there were 'good.'   She then
mentined she had a PC but would give her eye-teeth for a MAC, saying they were
better for graphics and music.  After hearing that my daughter, resignedly
said, 'alright, I'll get a MAC.'  We were unable to get it that day because
they had sold out--probably went faster than expected because of the worm.   We
wound up ordering it by phone and had it 2 days later.
Anyway, that night my daughter called us--one of her good friends from high
school who was at same school, had plugged her brand-new, unused PC into the
ethernet--and was immediately hit by the worm and/or a virus, too.  My daughter
then said she was glad that she had gotten a MAC.
I probably shouldn't speak too quickly, but out of the 10 MAC's we've had (that
includes the two that I have had from work), amongst those in our immediate
family, none of us has ever lost a hard-drive.
The only one who had to switch to PC was our eldest--was required by the med.
school.  Last year one of our other daughters, who is in art school was
required to get a special G4 (MAC) which is kept locked at the art school.
With all the required graphics, she got it at a discount for 5 thousand...
Anyway, they have been easy to use and more than adequate for our immediate
needs, although we could use a memory upgrade on our home  computer...
*shaz^ - 01 Oct 2003 19:16 GMT
I was getting about 100 spam e-mails aday, until i had enough and had to change my address. I don't get any now!

Don't give out your address willy nilly on web sites, coz that has a lot to do with it i know.

Shaz x
 WOW!!! I really thought I had it bad but compared to your problem I was let off easy. I have been getting the standard Microsoft patch one and one about undelivered mail but this one was worded different and had a lot of names from this list that I recognized in the header. My Norton called it  W32Swen.a@mm And explained it....So I guess it was the same worm just worded differently.  My Norton Pro. is working well, and I am glad...
     "This worm exploits a vulnerability in Microsoft Outlook and Outlook Express in an attempt to execute itself when you open or even preview the message. Information and a patch for the vulnerability can be found at:  www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS01-020.asp."
     They all went straight to my trash, but unfortunatly some of my real mail does to so I scan the titles. before deleting.
     Now if I could just get rid of the drug and penis adds I would be a happy lady. My ISP will only deal with those spammers that do it from their Company.
 Pat
     

 Mary Fisher wrote:

 << I have been receiving 80-100 mailings a day with
this very virus >>

Wow, and I thought I had it bad with maybe 10 to 15 junk mails/day.
   Again, I
 do think using a MAC and aol help keep these to a minimum--at least for
   now and
 probably should not advertise if should the perpetrator read this...
   
The vandals who do this aren't reading individual mails or posts, they have
programmes which can pick out addresses. Even 'spamtrapper' addresses aren't
safe.

Last weekend I was getting c 2,000 a day. My virus checker saw to the fangs
and I never open anything I'm not expecting. But simply getting my screen
filled with these things effectively immobilised my internet.

I managed to get through to my ISP. Others were experiencing the same
problem. The techies there sorted it, that's a benefit of having a small,
caring ISP whose customers really matter.

But I would add that Mac users were getting them, aol users were getting
them, people with and without web sites were getting them. Some were
distressed by having 40 a day, a few were unlucky enough to have as many as
I did. Some newsgroup readers thought that their particular groups were
being targeted. They weren't, every internet user - EVERYONE - is a
potential victim.

If you get things with attachments just don't open them without checking the
sender - if you know the sender. And not always then - I've had some
purporting to come from Mary Fisher!

I hope that eventually they'll stop but I suspect that some clever so and so
will find a way of doing even more damage :-(

I don't understand the technology but I was reliably (I think) informed that
it wasn't a virus and it wasn't a worm - it was a Trojan horse - something
coming in an apparently innocent package.

Mary

 
Glenfiddich - 30 Sep 2003 03:38 GMT
>> << I have been receiving 80-100 mailings a day with
>> this very virus >>
...
>The vandals who do this aren't reading individual mails or posts, they have
>programmes which can pick out addresses. Even 'spamtrapper' addresses aren't
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>problem. The techies there sorted it, that's a benefit of having a small,
>caring ISP whose customers really matter.

Actually, the extra message traffic generated by the viruses
actually causes more grief to the larger ISPs - they've got
more users to get infected and send even more spurious messages.

I think you'll find that all ISPs will soon be de-fanging
your mail before you get it, to avoid clogging their lines with
virus-generated traffic - and thereby allowing them to take on
more paying customers.

NYC RoadRunner cable service started inbound virus-scanning
some months ago.
Even so, my own anti-virus program still finds one or two
a week slithering through their net.
Tim Jackson - 29 Sep 2003 19:12 GMT
Don't panic.

The addresses were probably harvested directly from the newsgroup.  It
happens.  Most of us probably don't keep each other's personal email
addresses in our address book - I don't have yours for example.  The ones I
got also included a lot of invalid email adresses which wouldn't come from
one of us.

Just don't open any attachments on emails (or newsgroup posts for that
matter) unless you recognise the sender AND you were expecting it OR they
have included some personal message in plain text that a hostile couldn't
possibly have written.  In Outlook Express I keep preview switched off too
so that can't open them for me either.  There are no email viruses that I
know of that can launch if you don't open them.

There's just an awful lot of it about at the moment

Tim Jackson

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Alert!
   I just received 2 messages that contained a virus. Thankfully my Norton
removed them before thay got to me. I did notice that everyone on the
send-to list was on this newsgroup. Tim, Allan, su-texas, kay301, you get
the picture. I have been receiving 80-100 mailings a day with this very
virus, tho this is the first time I have seen addresses I recognize...Maybe
someone on this list has the virus. I suggest you all scan your computers
for viruses. I scan mine daily and have found non. This message will also be
scanned before going out.. Thanks Pat from Apple Valley, CA
Kaye301 - 30 Sep 2003 00:19 GMT
<< The addresses were probably harvested directly from the newsgroup.  It
happens. >>

I didn't get anything--at least as far as I know.  I am guessing it got
filtered out before appearing in my mail list.
Jo - 30 Sep 2003 08:03 GMT
Hi Tim.  I was away for 2 weeks and when I came home HELP.....inundated and
my Norton is madly quarantining.  Can you please explain how to stop the
previewing in OE.  Cheers Jo
> Don't panic.
>
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> for viruses. I scan mine daily and have found non. This message will also be
> scanned before going out.. Thanks Pat from Apple Valley, CA
Tim Jackson - 30 Sep 2003 08:50 GMT
Pick Layout from the View menu. Uncheck the box "Show preview pane"

Tim

> Hi Tim.  I was away for 2 weeks and when I came home HELP.....inundated and
> my Norton is madly quarantining.  Can you please explain how to stop the
> previewing in OE.  Cheers Jo
> > Don't panic.
Anthony - 29 Sep 2003 22:06 GMT
 Alert!
     I just received 2 messages that contained a virus. Thankfully my Norton removed them before thay got to me. I did notice that everyone on the send-to list was on this newsgroup.

 I was getting so many I shut down this email account!
 
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