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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Breast Cancer / April 2005To Harry palmer
Yes, please stay if you can benefit more from this breast cancer support group. I love the good old USA too, but I was born here, and know little else. I have heard complaints from some in the couutries with health coverage. Complaints about too long of waits for much needed treatments. I also know the inadequasies of our system in the states, with the insurance companies with too much power, the rich and the poor getting a better deal than the middle class. The rich can pay, the rest of us pay for the poor and the middle class get charged at a higher rate if they do not have insurance coverage to bargain for them. I think our medical expertise here is the best in the world, but the health system needs improvement I also think an open and honest discussion of the different systems is healthy and enlightening. I think the good and bad experiences being aired can only be an education, and no one should be offended. We are discussing the merits of the health systems - not trashing any country. eveline > Yes, please stay if you can benefit more from this breast cancer support > group. I love the good old USA too, but I was born here, and know little [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > and no one should be offended. We are discussing the merits of the health > systems - not trashing any country. I agree. Mary > > Yes, please stay if you can benefit more from this breast cancer support > > group. I love the good old USA too, but I was born here, and know little [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Mary Hi call me cynical or a realist... but there's more to this persons post than appears...he refuses to give his wife's name... all is in the first person... different axes to grind...I'm sorry but my feelings are more with the person with bc...this seems to be secondary to him..more about trashing the health service of different countries.... just my humble opinion....ignore it if it offends.... Pam xx> > Hi > call me cynical or a realist... but there's more to this persons [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > with > the person with bc...this seems to be secondary to him.. That was my feeling too although it seemed unkind to comment on it before now. Mary > > Hi > > call me cynical or a realist... but there's more to this persons [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mary This is a supportive, kind group of people here and maybe we were "taken in" by Harry. However, I would rather see an outpooring of goodwill and support than suspicion and criticism of a new poster. Maybe he is genuine and genuinely hesitates to identify his wife by name on this public forum. Maybe his wife is a private person and he is respecting that........at least until they have more testing done. The only thing that gives me pause, is that he said she had cancer before a biopsy was done. I don't see how that type diagnoses would be possible without examining tissue removed. eveline > > > Hi > > > call me cynical or a realist... but there's more to this persons [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > > totally agree with all your sentiments, but just didn't seem 'right' If this is his real name then he's identified his wife..name or no name..if it isn't. then her identity is safe anyway.... but that wasn't the reason he gave... too traumatic???? then as you say he was assuming that the diagnosis was the worst, before biopsy..While I know I for one was still trying to be positive up to the last moment... I did ask Bobby (husband ) to read the thread, in case I was being 'orrible. and he felt the same..... To get back to the topic of this ng...I have been nick-named Baldrick by my oh-so-sensitive family...must say I kinda like it... Pam xx > To get back to the topic of this ng...I have been nick-named Baldrick by > my oh-so-sensitive family...must say I kinda like it... > Pam xx That reminds me of when I had a (benign) brain tumour removed. My family said that they opened me up and removed the smaller lump and still don't know if it was the right one ... they'd visit me in hospital and 'talk' to each other through my ears, i.e. there was nothing to stop anything ... Small grandchildren came and counted my staples. A daughter said she'd brought the children then in came No 1 son and his wife (who lived in Scotland), they brought with them the scan of their first baby. I really enjoyed the fun of all that, at least they weren't all moping and panicking and tearful. Like me, they had no option but to trust the surgeon. That trust was well founded. I remember asking him, when he telephoned to offer me an option of when to have it done, what was the risk. He said brain surgery was never risk free. I mused that driving a car is never risk free so I said "tomorrow please", and drove myself to the hospital after I put down the phone. After that a lumpectomy seemed like having a tooth out. There were similar festivities on that occasion too :-) Mary Mary > That reminds me of when I had a (benign) brain tumour removed. My family > said that they opened me up and removed the smaller lump and still don't [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Mary The special present of each day bcomes more precious and meaningful for most after having cancer, or some other possibly life threatening illness.... The sun is sunnier, the sky bluer, the flowers more beautiful and fragrant. Each good new day is valued as a gift. Friends and laughter all the more treasured. We take more time to "stop and smell the roses" My daughter who had breast cancer and is still having follow up has wanted to move where it is warmer. She has decided now is the time and I concur. We will be flying to Florida next week to look at accomodations there. Whether she has a reocurrence of the cancer or not, she will be doing what she wants to do. eveline > The special present of each day bcomes more precious and meaningful for > most > after having cancer, or some other possibly life threatening illness.... Oh yes! > The sun is sunnier, the sky bluer, the flowers more beautiful and > fragrant. > Each good new day is valued as a gift. Friends and laughter all the more > treasured. We take more time to "stop and smell the roses" We do indeed. What we used to see as problems are hardly noticed any more! Life is full of good things. > My daughter who had breast cancer and is still having follow up has wanted > to move where it is warmer. She has decided now is the time and I concur. > We will be flying to Florida next week to look at accomodations there. > Whether she has a reocurrence of the cancer or not, she will be doing what > she wants to do. Good for her - and you. But I hope that if/when you get there you'll still come here. Mary > eveline > > The special present of each day bcomes more precious and meaningful for > > most [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > > >I second that, will you be moving with her? It's such a long way away... but thinking about it Travel is so much easier now... and more accessible to every-one.... Sun and warmth... sounds very appealing at the moment... I rode out today and it was freezing... My ears really felt the wind !!! will have to find something to put under my riding hat !! pam xx > > > The special present of each day bcomes more precious and meaningful for > > > most [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > wind !!! will have to find something to put under my riding hat !! > pam xx She has a sister who resides in Florida, so she will not be totally alone, and yes, I may start spending some winters down there. I will probably keep my home place in Ohio as permanent residence It takes only a couple hours by plane, and if she needs me I will be there. I have a laptop I can take with me to keep in touch with everyone. eveline >> > Hi >> > call me cynical or a realist... but there's more to this persons [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > This is a supportive, kind group of people here and maybe we were "taken > in" by Harry. I don't know. > However, I would rather see an outpooring of goodwill and support than > suspicion and criticism of a new poster. So would I, and I think we've all tried to do that. > Maybe he is genuine and genuinely hesitates to identify his wife by name > on [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > biopsy was done. I don't see how that type diagnoses would be possible > without examining tissue removed. I don't know enough for that to leap out at me but I value your knowledge. Mary > eveline |
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