Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Breast Cancer / October 2004
Hello.. New and kind of freaking out! - LONG.. sorry
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Silverstar - 16 Oct 2004 22:15 GMT Hi all, 2 weeks ago I had my annual checkup with my ob/gyn. I knew when he was doing a breast exam that he felt something, I could tell by the look on his face. Sure enough, after it was over he said he possibly felt a small knot deep in my breast and since it was only a few days before I was expecting my period, he wanted to check it again in two weeks, that hopefully it was just a pre-menstrual thing. I freaked out a little then but decided that since I consume alot of caffeine, that was probably what it was and vowed to lay off my Dr. Pepper for the next two weeks. I went back yesterday and sure enough it was still there. He is sending me to the "Comprehensive Breast Center" on Monday to let a "breast specialist" as he called him, to have a look. He said that honestly he thought it was just a little fatty tumor and that I shouldn't lose any sleep over it, but obviously he doesn't know me too well. I am trying hard not to freak out but feel on the verge of it. I am 43, have 3 girls ages 24,20 and 13 and 2 beautiful grandbabies, ages 4 and 10 months. I have told me older girls but not my youngest. My doc said that most likely the breast doctor would first do a mammogram and that if it was a fatty tumor it wouldn't show up on the mammogram. He said also he would probably do a sonogram and if he thought it needed further investigation he would do a image guided needle aspiration. Can anyone tell me what to expect if that is what I have to have done? I have no family history of bc. But on another note, I live in a very small Texas town (2200 pop) that is appx 10 miles from a nuclear weapons assembly plant ( where by the way my husband works). I can count about 12 women in a 10 block radius from my home who have been diagnosed with bc in the last 5 years. All of them under the age of 50. And that is just Breast cancer. Everyweek I hear of someone else in our town who has been diagnosed. Just last week a lady living only 2 blocks from me was diagnosed with acute leukemia. There is lung cancer, colon cancer, and have been 4 cases of brain cancer in our town in the last 10 years... none of those are still alive. So far I am the only one who thinks that something is going on. No one else I've talked to even seems to have drawn the correlation that there might be a problem. They just say it's like this everywhere. Am I being paranoid? Thanks for listening.. just had to get this off my chest. Hopefully Monday everything will turn out alright. I'm trying to think positive, but its in the middle of the night when it kind of hits me and my mind starts playing out the worst scenario. Rhonda
Guess Who - 16 Oct 2004 23:26 GMT Rhonda It sounds like you are getting excellent care. Mammogram and ultrasound will give more answer, if needed they will do a biopsy. 80-90% of these lumps are not cancer. Alex
Silverstar - 17 Oct 2004 04:39 GMT Thanks Alex for the word of encouragement. It means alot now as Monday is drawing closer and I would really like to just go and hide somewhere. :) Rhonda
> Rhonda > It sounds like you are getting excellent care. Mammogram and ultrasound will > give more answer, if needed they will do a biopsy. 80-90% of these lumps are > not cancer. Alex Mary Fisher - 17 Oct 2004 11:26 GMT > Thanks Alex for the word of encouragement. It means alot now as Monday is > drawing closer and I would really like to just go and hide somewhere. :) > Rhonda Don't hide.
The sooner it's seen, diagnosed and (if necessary) a treatment begun the sooner you'll be in control.
We'll be thinking of you, keep in touch.
Hugs,
Mary
Silverstar - 17 Oct 2004 15:26 GMT Thanks Mary, I won' t "hide".. I just really wish I could. I will be at the 3 o'clock appt. with bells on :) Rhonda
> > Thanks Alex for the word of encouragement. It means alot now as Monday is > > drawing closer and I would really like to just go and hide somewhere. :) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Mary Mary Fisher - 17 Oct 2004 17:22 GMT > Thanks Mary, > I won' t "hide".. I just really wish I could. I will be at the 3 o'clock > appt. with bells on :) > Rhonda Great!
We'll be watching :-)
Mary
>> > Thanks Alex for the word of encouragement. It means alot now as Monday > is [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> Mary C. Falise - 16 Oct 2004 23:36 GMT hi rhonda- i get the late night friek-outs too. why does it always seem to be 3 am when i need to talk to someone? anyway, it sounds like your doc has things under control. you're getting it checked and that's all you can do. i'm very interested to know what town you live in. i live in austin, texas. but i grew up in nyc and a good friend on mine died of bc when she was 24. she grew up in long island, where it was later shown there was a "cancer cluster" so to speak. it's a controversial idea, but i believe it's true. and from what i hear you say, it seems a larger than normal percentage of people in your town are being diagnosed with varioius cancers. i'm not an expert by any stretch, but i would keep asking questions and looking into this thing. something about it doesn't seem right. as far as your health goes, as i said, you're doing the right thing and someone who knows what they're doing will be doing a thorough evaluation soon. bc is typically a very slow-growing disease. so even if you have it, it's more than likely very manageable. it sounds to me like your doc is being very careful. and he's right - usually these things turn out to be benign. there are women on this ng who have had the needle biopsy done. i'm not one of them (they knew what mine was already). however, i did read alot about it and have heard from people who've had it done - it's not a big deal, really. probably not a whole lot of fun, but more in the annoying nuisance category than real surgery. they will explain it all to you before you have it, IF you even need to have one done. so try not to worry too much - go and enjoy your weekend, we're having beautiful weather here in texas. :) deal with monday on monday. and keep posting. it really helps all of us. -christina
> Hi all, > 2 weeks ago I had my annual checkup with my ob/gyn. I knew when he was doing [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > out the worst scenario. > Rhonda Silverstar - 17 Oct 2004 04:46 GMT Thank you so much Christina.. glad I'm not the only one who has those middle of the night melt downs. Yes I have all the confidence in the world in my Doctor and I know that means alot. I'm just really scared and I know so many others have faced and are facing worse than this. I'm trying to stay optimistic.. but I'm kind of the person who always sees the cup half empty
:) I have been concerned about the so called "cancer cluster" here in our area (which by the way is in the Panhandle, up by Amarillo) for along time now. But everytime I bring it up to anyone it's just kind of poo-pooed. I believe and cannot be persuaded otherwise that it has something to do with the nuclear plant we live close to. Friends of ours bought a house sitting less than a mile from the plant and soon found their water was contaminated. They tried to sell their house but after being on the market for several years the plant "bought" their property and also funded their purchase of a new house in town. Sounds like admitting something to me.. :) Any way... I thank you so much for your encouragement, you can't know how much it means. Rhonda
> hi rhonda- > i get the late night friek-outs too. why does it always seem to be 3 am [quoted text clipped - 85 lines] > > out the worst scenario. > > Rhonda Tim Jackson - 17 Oct 2004 11:01 GMT As others have said, the chances are it is a benign lump. If it shows on a mammogram, then a wire-guided biopsy is an uncomfortable but not generally painful procedure where they insert a wire into your breast while watching it by x-ray or ultrasound until it reaches the lump, and take a small sample of the tissue for analysis. You'll get a bit of bruising but it will quickly heal.
Again, the chances are it will be found benign, but if not, then they will do surgery to remove it and a lump of surrounding breast tissue, and irradiate the area several times, which will give you a slight sunburn. You may be asked to take hormone-therapy drugs for the next five years, to help reduce the risk of it happening again. Depending on what they find, there may be more treatments, but cross that bridge if you come to it. The recovery rate for small tumours is very good.
Well I saw the film about Karen Silkwood and that's all I know about the dangers of living near nuclear plants. But according to that, the problem is getting local people who's jobs depend on the plant, to face the fact that there might be a problem. When given a choice between losing your job and having am extra one in a thousand chance of cancer, people take the job. Of course the perceived or received statistics might not be the true figures, but we all know what you can do with statistics. People buy lottery tickets in the face of logic too.
Aren't there any universities or epidemiologists studying 'cancer clusters' who could independently confirm whether or not there is an abnormality there. Obviously, simply relating how many people you know with cancer is not really a valid method, I don't know what size of population you are taking them from, and I do know that after my wife died of cancer all my friends and neighbours came to tell me about Uncle Joe's brother-in-law's gardener who had just died of cancer. They seemed to think I'd be interested, as if cancer was a hobby I'd taken up. One does easily get a distorted picture.
I saddens me to know that America still has plants actively manufacturing weapons of mass destruction. Don't they have enough yet?
Tim Jackson
> Thank you so much Christina.. glad I'm not the only one who has those middle > of the night melt downs. Yes I have all the confidence in the world in my [quoted text clipped - 119 lines] > > > out the worst scenario. > > > Rhonda Silverstar - 17 Oct 2004 15:25 GMT Thanks Tim for your explanation of the needle biopsy and what to expect afterwards. I'm try to have that attitude of "cross that bridge when we get there". I appreciate your response. Rhonda
> As others have said, the chances are it is a benign lump. If it shows on a > mammogram, then a wire-guided biopsy is an uncomfortable but not generally [quoted text clipped - 183 lines] > > > > out the worst scenario. > > > > Rhonda Guess Who - 17 Oct 2004 16:04 GMT The department of public health should be looking into this, every cancer is report to a registry witt the type of cancer and residence of the person, the information is public. Rhonda, when things quite down, you can go the town hall and request the information and compare it the national average. I am sending positive thoughts your way.
> Thanks Tim for your explanation of the needle biopsy and what to expect > afterwards. I'm try to have that attitude of "cross that bridge when we [quoted text clipped - 235 lines] >> > > > out the worst scenario. >> > > > Rhonda Silverstar - 18 Oct 2004 05:14 GMT Thank you so much for your kind positive thoughts.. I'm down to counting the hours now. Don't think I will sleep much at all tonight. Thank you for the information about the registry thing, I didn't know that. I will see what I can find out. Thanks again. Rhonda
> The department of public health should be looking into this, every cancer is > report to a registry witt the type of cancer and residence of the person, [quoted text clipped - 241 lines] > >> > > > out the worst scenario. > >> > > > Rhonda mosherm@nsnet.pns.ca - 18 Oct 2004 11:42 GMT >Thank you so much for your kind positive thoughts.. I'm down to counting the >hours now. Don't think I will sleep much at all tonight. Thank you for the >information about the registry thing, I didn't know that. I will see what I >can find out. Thanks again. >Rhonda Hi Rhonda,
I'll be thinking of you today.
I had a wire guided surgery and the wire wasn't bad at all. A small pinch going in, that's all. I had to wait around for three hours before surgery with the wire sticking out of my boob. I was able to move around a bit and read. It sounds gross, but wasn't.
Marilyn
Mary Fisher - 18 Oct 2004 11:47 GMT >>Thank you so much for your kind positive thoughts.. I'm down to counting >>the [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > before surgery with the wire sticking out of my boob. I was able to > move around a bit and read. It sounds gross, but wasn't. No, it's interesting. I called it my antenna, sadly I didn't receive any Other World signals :-)
Rhonda, tell us what it was like for you!
Mary
> Marilyn Silverstar - 18 Oct 2004 14:50 GMT > >>Thank you so much for your kind positive thoughts.. I'm down to counting > >>the [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > > > Marilyn I will be sure to post when I get back. Thanks Mary. Rhonda
Silverstar - 18 Oct 2004 14:49 GMT > >Thank you so much for your kind positive thoughts.. I'm down to counting the > >hours now. Don't think I will sleep much at all tonight. Thank you for the [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Marilyn Thank you Marilyn for keeping me in your thoughts.. hopefully it won't be too bad..lol. Thanks again. Rhonda
*Annie* - 18 Oct 2004 05:56 GMT Rhonda, Hi dear. This a very scary time, but as the others have you don't know what you're dealing with right now, so please try not to stress too much before you get into the doctor. Gene {hubby} would be saying right now that I'm a good one to be giving that advice, as I do THE very same thing. I'm learning, or trying not to freak at every doctors appt. So far I only freak half as much as I used to ;-) Obviously, you're not sure what type of proceedure you're going to have, if any once your doctor does your mammogram/ultrasound. Mine was not found on mammogram, but was found with an ultrasound by a breast cancer specialist the following day. We have come to the conclusion that the one reading the mammo didn't know what he was looking at or for when reading the mammogram. It took my bc specialist 10 minutes to find it and he knew EXACTLY what he was looking at when he found it.
In regard to the wire guided ultrasound, I don't have any knowledge of that. But if they do a "fine needle aspiration" {fna for short} they will numb the area {or should/mine did} then they will insert a small needle and draw off some tissue/fluild to be examined. That usually takes about 3-5 days to come back, depending on the sutuation at the facility you're going to be seen at...mine took about 5 the first time, 3 the second time. {mostly depends on the lab their using} This is a relatively simple proceedure..and as others have said, you will be sore for a day or two and there might be some bruising, and then maybe not. I bruise when you look at me cross-eyed at me, so that was a given. I was dx in 4/99 at the age of 49. I was dx again 11/02 and had surgery and treatment and doing quite well as of this writing. If there's anything I can do, please don't hesitate to post back to me, or even email is perfectly fine also. You take care there/God bless you And good thoughts in regard to your appts. Don't be afraid to ask questions of this doctor and your own, and keep asking till you get the answers that satisfy you and your concerns. As far as your town having a "cancer cluster" you can search for info on the net. Search into your state, then to city, and there should be a entry field that allowes you to search a particular subject in relation to your state/county/city. Side note? The county I live in here in Ohio has one of the highest bc cancers rates in the state. If I find anything as far as how to obtain info about state/country/city in regard to this issue, I'll post or email it to you...if that's okay.. annie
Ultimately.....we know deeply that the other side of every fear is a freedom.
"Courage"...is *fear* that has said it's prayers.
Silverstar - 18 Oct 2004 14:48 GMT > Rhonda, > Hi dear. This a very scary time, but as the others have you don't know [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > "Courage"...is *fear* that has said it's prayers. Thanks so much Annie for your kind post and good thoughts. I'm trying to stay relaxed today. Got a pile of laundry to do before I go in this afternoon. Thanks for the explanation about the needle aspiration. My gyn told me I should know something this afternoon so hopefully I will. Thanks again. Rhonda
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