Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Breast Cancer / November 2004
Another update - Greta
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Greta - 06 Oct 2004 00:42 GMT Hi, Expected to finally hear a final word from onc today - nope - MRI confirmed bone scan suspicion - now a biopsy of iliac (sp?) - and a body CAT scan are planned - beginning to be frightened. Long haul from mastectomy (r) on 8/24 er+ - sentinel node positive - other 18 -. MD did not expect anything more in the beginning. Is this usually the case - that things appear to get worse in the workup process? Greta
Guess Who - 06 Oct 2004 01:42 GMT I don't know if things are getting worse, or you are getting overloaded with questions and no answers.Alex
> Hi, > Expected to finally hear a final word from onc today - nope - MRI [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > process? > Greta C. Falise - 06 Oct 2004 07:30 GMT greta- unfortunately for some of us, like myself for example, that is how it goes. it stinks. i know exactly how you're feeling. it took nearly a month of workups and scans for me to get the entire picture of my particular cancer. every result was more bad news. i was scared out of my mind and felt like the world was closing in around me. i had a lot of panic attacks, i must admit. you used an important word - appear. this whole process is always so overwhelming. sometimes it takes a while for us to realize things might not actually be as bad as they appear. in fact, we ask questions, talk to people, and in time we realize that we can deal with it, whatever it is. the worst thing we can do is worry about things that haven't happenned yet. hang in there. keep posting. be well, and be good to yourself. do something you enjoy. i hope that helps. i'll hope for good news for you from here on out... -christina
> Hi, > Expected to finally hear a final word from onc today - nope - MRI [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > process? > Greta Greta - 06 Oct 2004 22:10 GMT > greta- > unfortunately for some of us, like myself for example, that is how it goes. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] >>process? >>Greta Thanks C. I am feeling better today and are you ever correct! No sense worrying about what's still unknown. I went to my digital photo class today and got my mind working on something else. Greta
Greta - 22 Oct 2004 18:22 GMT >> greta- >> unfortunately for some of us, like myself for example, that is how it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> >> "Greta" <sarek-gmc@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message Hi, Well today was the day-saw onc. for final diag. - I have gone from localized Stage 11 to Stage 1V - final biopsy showed metastasis - one bone tumor on iliac - given Femara and will have Zometa injection once monthly. The onc. said nothing appeared anywhere else - but it would eventually kill me - but at 74 I still can't complain too much I guess. Thanks all! Greta
Silverstar - 22 Oct 2004 21:08 GMT > >> greta- > >> unfortunately for some of us, like myself for example, that is how it [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Thanks all! > Greta Greta, I'm so sorry for your diagnosis.. all my thoughts and prayers are with you that you will have lots more happy years before this takes its toll. Thinking of you, Rhonda
Greta - 24 Oct 2004 18:24 GMT >>>>greta- >>>>unfortunately for some of us, like myself for example, that is how it [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >>bone tumor on iliac - given Femara and will have Zometa injection once >>monthly. (snip)
>>Greta
> Greta, > I'm so sorry for your diagnosis.. all my thoughts and prayers are with you(snip) > Rhonda Hi, Can someone clue me in and advise as to how long before Femara begins to work and how they decide if it is working? Thanks Greta
Tim Jackson - 24 Oct 2004 19:43 GMT >>>>> "Greta" <sarek-gmc@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Thanks > Greta It is not so much knowing how long it takes to start working, which is probably pretty immediately, but how long before it has a noticeable effect, or more importantly, a noticeable failure. What they are looking for is any evidence of advancement of the disease - more tumours, larger tumours, skeletal damage, increasing pain, markers continuing to increase, etc.
At stage IV, if the treatment is stabilising the disease, and halting its advance, then that is considered acceptable for the moment.
I think if the disease was continuing to progress after a two or three months they would want to try something else.
Tim Jackson
Kathleen Langwell - 24 Oct 2004 21:21 GMT Greta,
I chose to go on Arimidex rather than do weekly taxol for my lung mets. I have some lymph nodes at the base of my neck that feel like they're pea sized that I keep feeling to see if they're still detectable. So far they are but the onc. said it would probably be about 4 months before there would be noticeable improvement I could detect. I started the Arimidex about 2 months ago (Sept. 1st). She said if more immediate improvement is the goal then chemo is the best choice.
I'll be happy to stay stabilized at minimum and feel better, which I do. As Tim says, sometimes you knock the tumors out in one place and they soon pop up in another. If things don't get worse or spread further I'll consider the Arimidex working.
Kathie
C. Falise - 25 Oct 2004 00:08 GMT i'm sorry to hear this greta. i was really hoping you're work up wouldn't turn out like mine did. so, here we are. stage 4 isn't so bad though. it's doable. you're doing the same treatment as i am. it's been working for me for one year (yesterday was my anniversary of diagnosis). by working i mean that many of my tumors have either stabilized or disappeared, and so far i have no new stuff. it was a pretty immediate thing. within 3 weeks my tumor markers dropped by 50%. then another 50% drop a month later, and so on for the first 3 or so months. my ca 27-29 then settled around 20 or so and has stayed there ever since. it was originally 247. this has been accompanied by a reduction in pain and a better quality of life. one thing i will warn you about is possible "flare". it's an immediate increase in symptoms that sometimes happens at the very beginning of treatment. don't let it throw you. it will go away pretty quickly as the treatment begins to really do it's work. other than that, this treatment isn't so bad. a few aches and pains should be about it. this was an important concern to me also - the quality of life issue. i hope that you do well with this. i know a woman here who is stage 4 and has been stabilized on this treatment for over 3 years. she is another one of my onc's patients. it's encouraging. hang in there.
:) -christina
> >>>>greta- > >>>>unfortunately for some of us, like myself for example, that is how it [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Thanks > Greta Greta - 25 Oct 2004 00:33 GMT > i'm sorry to hear this greta. i was really hoping you're work up wouldn't > turn out like mine did. so, here we are. stage 4 isn't so bad though. [quoted text clipped - 61 lines] >>Thanks >>Greta Thanks ever so much for all the replies - they calm the shock. Greta
Tony Lima - 25 Oct 2004 00:53 GMT >>> greta- >>> unfortunately for some of us, like myself for example, that is how it [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >The onc. said nothing appeared anywhere else - but it would eventually >kill me - but at 74 I still can't complain too much I guess. Greta, try to avoid forecasting. Medical technology is changing rapidly. Focus on the short term future and keeping yourself healthy today and tomorrow. You may want to consider some form of reduced fat diet, but be sure to keep enough protein in your system. Cold-water fish are usually recommended.
Sorry to hear the news, but people can and do live with stage IV cancer for years. Keep your spirits up as much as you can and try not to think about the inevitable. After all, no one gets out of this life alive. - Tony
Love and light, Tony Lima
JLMA115 - 31 Oct 2004 06:03 GMT Hi Greta. Sorry to be responding so late to your message dated 10/5. What were the results of your scans? My thoughts are with you. I went through a bone mets diagnosis in 2002 and the tests and the waiting were the most difficult part.
Janice A. Stage IV Metastatic Breast CA
Greta - 05 Nov 2004 01:30 GMT > Hi Greta. Sorry to be responding so late to your message dated 10/5. What > were the results of your scans? My thoughts are with you. I went through a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Janice A. > Stage IV Metastatic Breast CA Hi Janice and Everyone, My 'picture" seems to get worse - originally "early" invasive BC - then a malignancy on the iliac and this week I saw my internist and we went over my CAT scan (the one test I had not been copied) and learned there was "something" on my liver (the oncologist did not mention this). It is 8mm - too small to investigate at this point. Radiation has not been suggested for the iliac nor has chemo or tamoxafin - only Femara and Zometa infusions. Is it usual for news (initial suspicion of "early" BC in mid-July) to progress in this fashion? Greta
A. P. Thorsen - 08 Nov 2004 18:21 GMT > My 'picture" seems to get worse - originally "early" invasive BC - then > a malignancy on the iliac and this week I saw my internist and we went [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Zometa infusions. Is it usual for news (initial suspicion of "early" BC > in mid-July) to progress in this fashion? Haven't seen an answer to this question yet, so I'll hazard one.
Is it "usual" for initial suspicion of early BC to progress to a diagnosis of metastatic BC over a period of just a few months? No. Most BC found these days is early, and the overwhelming percentage of that is treated & does not metastasize.
Is it impossible or unheard of for doctors to think they're dealing with a small, localized tumor at first, then find -- as they do more tests -- that it has spread? Unfortunately, it happens sometimes, but quite infrequently.
I'm very sorry you've turned out to be on the unhappy side of those odds, Greta! I'm glad you're keeping us up to date on how you're doing.
If we can answer questions or offer support, please say so. Sending positive thoughts --
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