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Lump under right arm

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s - 08 Oct 2004 21:09 GMT
Hi All,

I am a 32 year mother of two. I discovered a lumpy thickening three
years ago at the juncture of my breast and right arm in between my
breast and armpit. My obgyn said it did not feel like cancer and my
family physician was not worried, either. He was more concerned about
some hardness he felt at the underside of my right breast and ordered
a mammogram. The printed results said there was no cancer or tumor and
that I did not need a mammogram for 10 more years. The doctor said it
is just fatty tissue. My life went on, and a year later I had another
baby and breastfed her until last month till she turned two. This
year, during my annual obgyn exam, the doctor said the lump is
irregular and felt hard and looks like a swollen lymp node and it is a
good idea to talk to my family physician. As far as I can tell, the
lump is just about the same size from the past three years and it kind
of feels hard on some days getting closer to my period. While I wait
to see the doctor, can you please share your thoughts and experiences
on anyone who developed breast cancer with similar symptoms. Now, when
I remember the mammogram, most of the positioning during the exam
appeared to concentrat on the breast itself and not under the arm. Do
you think they missed something there? Is there any other test I can
request such as ultrasound etc. I have no idea.
Tim Jackson - 09 Oct 2004 00:00 GMT
As I'm sure you know, breast cancer is pretty rare at your age, but not
unheard of.

I dare say Kaye, our resident 'lobular' queen, would like me to say that the
symptoms are a possible for lobular bc, but its reaction to the menstrual
cycle makes it more likely to be something benign.

If it doesn't appear to have grown in three years, that is another
indication against cancer, one would expect visible growth in that time even
in a pretty slow growing tumour.

Mammograms in younger women are often inconclusive due to the natural
density of the breast tissue.  I'm pretty sure that the mammogram will image
the area you are worried about though, the 'tail' of the breast.  If it was
inconclusive they should have said so.

If you want to be certain, yes you could request an ultrasound, and the
final resort would be a biopsy, where they use a hollow needle or similar
tool to take a small sample of the lump and examine it under a microscope to
see what it is made of.  The disadvantages of that is that there is a small
risk of infection, and that the resulting scar tissue may show us as
something suspicious on future mammograms.

There is also the expensive options of a PET scan, which has better
discrimination than a mammogram, but involves a significant radiation dose.
And maybe an MRI scan, which is harmless, but I don't know how much it would
help.  It's good for finding small lumps you can't feel, but here will
probably just tell you what you already know.  And it tends to find lots of
harmless things too.

Tim Jackson

> Hi All,
>
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> you think they missed something there? Is there any other test I can
> request such as ultrasound etc. I have no idea.
Sandy L - 09 Oct 2004 03:00 GMT
> As I'm sure you know, breast cancer is pretty rare at your age, but not
> unheard of.
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> to
> see what it is made of.

A relatively simple and low-risk procedure one step short of the needle
biopsy might be a fine needle aspiration.  They use a 25-ga needle, insert
it into the are at a time when it is most swollen, and see what they can
draw out.  If this is a cyst, they may get some fluid and the swelling and
discomfort may diminish greatly.  They can do a microscopic examination of
the fluid, or sometimes of cells if they can't get significant fluid, and
often tell if it is malignant or benign.

A regular needle biopsy tries for one or more slivers of solid tissue
somewhat smaller than a toothpick in diameter.  It is a more definitive
test, but, as Tim indicated, increases the discomfort and risk of bleeding
or infection.

> The disadvantages of that is that there is a small
> risk of infection, and that the resulting scar tissue may show us as
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>> you think they missed something there? Is there any other test I can
>> request such as ultrasound etc. I have no idea.
s - 11 Oct 2004 21:05 GMT
Hi Tim and Sandy, Thank you for taking time to answer my posting. I
have an appointment with my family physician on Wednesday. In the past
two months, my mild but constant lower neck and shoulder ache (had it
from ten years!) seemed to have moved to chest area. This pain I am
talking about is muscular in nature and exists on right side only. I
saw some pictures of lymph nodes and this pain is somewhat in the same
area as the lymph nodes in the chest area. How do I get my doctor to
take my issues seriously? He is an excellent professional but I think
I need a closer examination on what is happening here. Thanks.

Sapn

> > As I'm sure you know, breast cancer is pretty rare at your age, but not
> > unheard of.
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> >> you think they missed something there? Is there any other test I can
> >> request such as ultrasound etc. I have no idea.
 
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