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Breast Enlargement Brouhaha ...
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Ilena Rose - 02 Aug 2004 03:10 GMT Aug. 1, 2004, 12:59AM
Breast Enlargement Brouhaha This surgery strictly non-reg By DIANA ZUCKERMAN
http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/editorial/outlook/2712058
The news that the Department of Defense is providing free breast augmentation to women in the military and wives of our fighting men has raised more than a few eyebrows.
Extreme Makeover and similar TV programs tout breast augmentation as a way to improve women's self-esteem. But when that same justification is used to justify offering plastic surgery for women in the military, eyes roll. Many of us can't help but wonder if there aren't better ways to build self-confidence among women fighting for our country.
I know it's difficult to find enough recruits right now, but do we want to attract women planning for a free augmentation surgery during R&R?
At a time when we worry that some of our soldiers don't have the armored vests they need, and many Americans have no health insurance, the thought of using taxpayers' money for liposuction and implants for either our recruits or their wives is hard to accept. Surely there are better incentives and rewards for our military men and women.
But the cost and the principle are not the only issues. After all, breast implants are also used for reconstruction for breast cancer patients who lose a breast to mastectomy surgery. Don't those women deserve free medical care if they or their husbands are serving our country? Or is breast implant surgery not safe enough especially if done by doctors with limited breast implant experience, as would almost always be true of military doctors?
Kathy Nye is a friend of mine who underwent a double mastectomy at the age of 22, performed by military doctors at the Portsmouth Naval Hospital in Virginia because her husband was in the Navy. She was told she needed to have both breasts removed because she had a pre-cancerous condition, and that silicone gel breast implants would make her as good as new.
There was no publicly available risk information about silicone implants at the time, but one doctor at the military hospital warned her before her biopsy that she should get her clothes on and leave, because the doctors were using her. She never forgot his warning, but she did not heed it.
She had her surgery, and the implants caused immediate problems fatigue, joint pain and muscle pain. Implants that she was told would last a lifetime were replaced four times, eventually destroying some of her breast tissue and popping through the skin. With more than 20 operations related to her implants, she finally had her implants removed and not replaced.
Was she a guinea pig? At the time, she thought the doctors were trying to help her, but she remembers the Navy doctors asking if she knew any women who wanted implants for any reason. They clearly wanted to practice the surgery, just as an Army plastic surgeon said in a New Yorker article: "The benefit of offering elective cosmetic surgery to soldiers is more for the surgeon than for the patient," according to a New Yorker interview with Dr. Bob Lyons, the chief of plastic surgery at Brooke Army Medical Center in San Antonio. And, even though breast reconstruction is to help repair the damage of breast cancer, it is still considered elective surgery.
Eileen Swanson got her saline breast implants after a mastectomy at Fort Dix, N.J. Her reconstruction was done at Fitzsimmons Army Medical Center in Colorado, and when she had problems, subsequent surgeries were done at nearby Fort Carson. When she became extremely ill with autoimmune diseases, the doctors refused to believe the implants might be to blame. She finally convinced doctors at Fitzsimmons to remove the implants without replacing them.
Still, she doesn't blame the military doctors. "They weren't open-minded about the potential cause of my problems but I really believe they thought they were providing the best medical care possible," Eileen tells me. Fortunately, she made up her own mind, and her health improved after her implants were removed.
Carolyn Wolf had her breasts removed in 1971 because they were lumpy. The condition, called fibrocystic disease, was considered a pre-cancerous condition, although it is now acknowledged that it is not a disease and most women with that condition will not get breast cancer. She was referred to the plastic surgery clinic at Walter Reed Army Hospital in Washington,where she was told that there was no way that a doctor could ever find breast cancer because her breasts were so lumpy.
She didn't want implants, and felt that she was making a good adjustment to the mastectomies when one of the doctors told her, "You don't have to go through life like this we can make you look normal."
"I suppose that was the straw that broke the camel's back," Carolyn tells me. "I had implant surgery shortly after that."
Last year, she testified before the FDA that her implants ruptured more than 20 years after her surgery, spilling silicone throughout her body. An MRI of her brain reveals more than 20 lesions, and although she does not smoke she has been coughing up blobs of silicone, and a lung X-ray shows chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
For these women, the military doctors did them no favor by offering free reconstructive surgery in fact, all are still suffering from health problems related to their implants. The surgical complications they experienced may have been exacerbated by their inexperienced doctors, but the most serious health problems were apparently from the product, not the doctors.
Our government knows this that's why it sued implant manufacturers and recently settled for $12 million to reimburse Medicare for health costs caused by implant problems.
The decision to offer breast implant surgery for military women and military wives sounds funny, but it's not a joke. Just ask the women who are still paying for their free surgery through years of health problems and doctors bills.
As taxpayers, we want to provide the best possible benefits to those who risk their lives on our behalf.
That should not include implants that our own government has determined to be the cause of millions of long-term health problems.
Zuckerman is president of the National Center for Policy Research for Women & Families, a Washington research center.
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For Dr. Zuckerman's website, please visit:
www.BreastImplantInfo.org
For information on the ongoing controversy:
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org
Hope Munro Smith - 02 Aug 2004 19:52 GMT > Aug. 1, 2004, 12:59AM > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/editorial/outlook/2712058 (snipping story, assuming everyone can go to the link)
Apparently you can also get other procedures done, such as LASIK and nose jobs. The idea is to give military surgeons practice doing them. LASIK I can understand, it helps improve the performance of military personnel. However, breast augmentation seems a bit much to ask taxpayers to support, especially when their own insurance doesn't cover such things. And if you are going to give military wives something for free, how about housing and food instead of breast enhancement?!
Ilena Rose - 02 Aug 2004 20:02 GMT >> Aug. 1, 2004, 12:59AM >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >such things. And if you are going to give military wives something for >free, how about housing and food instead of breast enhancement?! Great idea ...
Further, outside of the military, Health Insurers are frequently denying coverage to implanted and explanted women ... these women in many cases will need a lifetime of surgery and medical care ...
Gene Fuller - 02 Aug 2004 22:43 GMT Snip
> Apparently you can also get other procedures done, such as LASIK and > nose jobs. The idea is to give military surgeons practice doing them. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > such things. And if you are going to give military wives something for > free, how about housing and food instead of breast enhancement?! How do free housing and food for military wives increase the skill of military surgeons?
Ilena Rose - 02 Aug 2004 23:06 GMT >Snip > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >How do free housing and food for military wives increase the skill of >military surgeons? Good point ... but using women yet again for guineau pigs ... the same women who are supposed to be defending our country ... just doesn't gel with me.
Especially with breast implants with so many potential complications ... a woman getting hit in the chest and spilling silicone throughout her chest doesn't sound like good planning to me....
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org
Gene Fuller - 03 Aug 2004 04:24 GMT Snip
> Good point ... but using women yet again for guineau pigs ... the same > women who are supposed to be defending our country ... just doesn't > gel with me. I agree. However, I don't think the female military who undergo "cosmetic surgery" are ordered to do so. It is voluntary "guinea piggery" at worst.
> Especially with breast implants with so many potential complications > ... a woman getting hit in the chest and spilling silicone throughout > her chest doesn't sound like good planning to me.... I tend to think that a woman undergoing a voluntary procedure of that type, very possibly disqualifying herself for hazardous military duty, should have to show cause why she should not be eliminated from the service. There are probably similar reasons to require a male to show cause as well.
Female dependents, on the other hand, if the military has sufficient numbers of surgeons requiring the training for some reason, should be eligible, provided they are old enough to make the _informed_ decision.
bell-lady - 03 Aug 2004 14:15 GMT One must remember that 'military' hospitals/doctors also includes all family members including wives. They are not allowed to go elsewhere for care, except at their own expense. If a wife is a 54DD size on a 5'4" frame, she needs this service medically, and it hasn't been allowed. I'd hate to have that happen to me. It doesn't mean were gonna have every movie star wanna be in the military out there getting surgery; doctors are swamped with patients, overwhelmed is a better word. Understaffed with nurses too, just like in our world. They don't do unnecessary surgery, I would venture.
Ann in PA Been military wife, know its tough...
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Ilena Rose - 03 Aug 2004 14:51 GMT >Snip > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I agree. However, I don't think the female military who undergo "cosmetic >surgery" are ordered to do so. It is voluntary "guinea piggery" at worst. Actually, it's voluntary "guinea piggery" at best, in my opinion.
My problem with it is women are typically not informed of the REAL risks, the REAL potentials for infections, re-surgeries, lifetime with no insurance, breastfeeding problems etc., etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.
I speak with women all the time who have gotten breast implants, and the risks were minimized ...
> > Especially with breast implants with so many potential complications >> ... a woman getting hit in the chest and spilling silicone throughout [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >of surgeons requiring the training for some reason, should be eligible, >provided they are old enough to make the _informed_ decision. I've seen plenty of horrific even deadly results from "board certified Plastic Surgeons" ... makes my skin crawl to think of these women being practiced on ...
Thanks for your comments.
www.BreastImplantAwareness.org
Gene Fuller - 04 Aug 2004 10:55 GMT Snip
> My problem with it is women are typically not informed of the REAL > risks, the REAL potentials for infections, re-surgeries, lifetime with > no insurance, breastfeeding problems etc., etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. > > I speak with women all the time who have gotten breast implants, and > the risks were minimized ... I would guess that not all of them, perhaps not many of them, are military or military dependents. I also venture that if they talk to you, they just might also talk among themselves, and it would be reasonable that the word would get around even if they are not officially fully informed.
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> I've seen plenty of horrific even deadly results from "board certified > Plastic Surgeons" ... makes my skin crawl to think of these women > being practiced on ... I don't doubt either of these statements. Were all of these "board certified plastic surgeons" in the miltary? If not why are we seemingly restricting this discussion to military surgeons?
> Thanks for your comments. You are certainly welcome.
Hope Munro Smith - 02 Aug 2004 23:11 GMT "Gene Fuller" <gfuller1930_not_@earthlink.net> wrote in news:sAyPc.6919 $9Y6.4929@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net:
> Snip > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > How do free housing and food for military wives increase the skill of > military surgeons? Ok, how about if military surgeons give free plastic surgery to all taxpayers? I'd sign up for some free liposuction! ;-D
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