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childhood asthma question
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Rebecca - 11 Jan 2005 03:47 GMT Hi Everyone
My son (21 months) was was just recently diagnosed with asthma. We found out through a very scary and traumatic emergency stay at the hospital. While he was there I had some training on what asthma is and how to manage it with meds and everything. Since we've been home the doctor has been working to reduce the medication he's been taking (Flovent). As the meds are reduced the hoarseness in his voice gets worse. When we were at the hospital his voice was really bad (very sqeecky) and sometimes it sounds like he is headed in that direction again but no coughing or other asthma warning signs. I can't find any info with reference why this is occuring and my doctor has not been very helpful in aleviating my concerns. Has anyone seen a similair reaction?
Thanks
Brad_Chad - 11 Jan 2005 09:28 GMT Let me give you some good advice. Seek out a certified allergist. Allergist deal all the time with asthma because asthma is often triggered by allergies. I had asthma as a child. I also had hidden food allergies. I was allergic to corn (corn starch, corn syrup, etc.) and dairy products. I had chronic fatigue too. My doctors did not know where the chronic fatigue came from. Decades later I developed joint pain and gastrointestinal problems. I found out when I was 40 that I had hidden food allergies (by accident). My health problems got better when I changed my diet.
Food allergies can cause mild or severe reactions. They can also cause delayed reactions. I'm talking a 72 hour delay. Many people with food allergies don't know it. Food sensitivities can trigger acne, eczema, asthma, migraines, psoriasis, sleep disorders, and many other problems. Most doctors are not trained very well in recognizing food allergies that are NOT life threatening. Many of the test for food allergies are not accurate. Their is a debate among doctors about the difference between "food allergies" and "food intolerence". I don't have the time to explain everything, but seeing an allergist may be the best thing for your child. Check your public library for books about food allergies. It may surprise you. Most doctors will give you the quick fix (drugs) which may not be the best fix.
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ARoberts - 11 Jan 2005 13:57 GMT > Let me give you some good advice. Seek out a certified allergist. > Allergist deal all the time with asthma because asthma is often > triggered by allergies. I had asthma as a child. I also had hidden food > allergies. I was allergic to corn (corn starch, corn syrup, etc.) and > dairy products. I had chronic fatigue too. My doctors did not know > where the chronic fatigue came from. It came from excessive use of Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V.
carrie - 11 Jan 2005 19:43 GMT >> Let me give you some good advice. Seek out a certified allergist. >> Allergist deal all the time with asthma because asthma is often [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > It came from excessive use of Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V. bravo
Brad_Chad - 12 Jan 2005 09:06 GMT How does that help Rebecca, genius?
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Brad_Chad - 12 Jan 2005 10:19 GMT How does that help Rebecca, genius?
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Brad_Chad - 12 Jan 2005 10:25 GMT How does that help Rebecca, genius?
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Mary - 11 Jan 2005 23:39 GMT > > Let me give you some good advice. Seek out a certified allergist. > > Allergist deal all the time with asthma because asthma is often [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > It came from excessive use of Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V. LOL
Brad_Chad - 12 Jan 2005 09:03 GMT I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
Brad_Chad - 12 Jan 2005 10:17 GMT I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
Brad_Chad - 12 Jan 2005 10:18 GMT I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
Brad_Chad - 12 Jan 2005 10:23 GMT I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
Brad_Chad - 12 Jan 2005 10:24 GMT I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
Brad_Chad - 12 Jan 2005 10:24 GMT I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
Brad_Chad - 12 Jan 2005 10:24 GMT I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
Brad_Chad - 12 Jan 2005 11:26 GMT I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
Brad_Chad - 12 Jan 2005 12:01 GMT I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
Bob - 12 Jan 2005 13:59 GMT >I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. >Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com Polly want a cracker?
Mary - 12 Jan 2005 18:00 GMT > I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. > Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com Brad, with that last barrage, you could be reported to your ISP for spamming, you really could. Lucky for you I am not a netcop, but honest to God, you do tempt me.
NorthShoreCEO@aol.com - 12 Jan 2005 19:25 GMT I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
************************************************************** Brad, did your news reader go awry? Or do you have children?
ARoberts - 13 Jan 2005 04:01 GMT > I'm actually tring to help Rebecca. You are only wasting her time. > Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > ************************************************************** > Brad, did your news reader go awry? Or do you have children? It's just his little temper tantrum. It's really not much different from his usual activity--posting drivel over and over...
Maureen - 12 Jan 2005 11:32 GMT It doesn't appear that any of us have an answer for you, Rebecca. You might want to contact your sons doctor to ask the question. Sorry we couldn't be of help, but keep checking back anyway because it's possible someone will still post an informative reply
Merlin - 13 Jan 2005 02:02 GMT Dear Rebecca, you would understand that your child most likely has some form of allergen sensitivity problem and that problem would most likely involve some food allergy element at his particular young age. Quite obviously the problem has developed over time and would have been evident previously in some lesser form, probably sniffling or repeated cold type events. I have noted that this kind of thing commonly involves cattle products in one form or another including dairy items etc. (especially including cowsmilk based baby formula having been used) Another interesting finding is that in these kinds of cases a substantial antibiotic useage history is common from very early age and the child is usually short term breastfed. Of course some environmental issue, fumes or polluted air may also have involvement. I have seen a similar situation where the mother was wearing strong antiperspirant and strong perfumes and as the child became more ill the problem worsened and he required more close nursing which made things progressively worse, another case involved a "teddy bear" always being placed with the child whilst he was sleeping. When these kind of sensitivities are generated they can be difficult to defuse because other substances also begin to have effect. I would be inclined to get the child to a completely different kind of environment and a different food source type as an emergent kind of action if possible, to see if any condition change might happen. Keep notes of foods and dates with contents and sources. I have noted recently that some older children appear to have problems with fried items which may possibly involve a vegetable cooking oil type, but so far this appears mainly only as severe stomach pains. Allergy testing will prove very enlightening for you, but the childs drug regimen may blur results. You will have to "get smart" and be extremely observant. Initially suspect everything. I would agree essentially with Brad_chad's posted reply. Cheers, Merlin.
> Hi Everyone > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Thanks Brad_Chad - 13 Jan 2005 08:32 GMT I have no idea of what happened. I hope something is not wrong with my computer. Why would it keep printing those messages over and over? Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com
NorthShoreCEO@aol.com - 13 Jan 2005 10:43 GMT It was probably a glitch in whatever system you used to post. If it happens again, you might want to try posting through Google groups instead of whatever news reader you're using.
iamthezookeeper - 21 Jan 2005 11:58 GMT Rebecca...sorry to hear about your child. Childhood asthma is a very scary thing in the beginning. I have six children...three grandchildren...four of them have asthma. Can you get your child a referral to a pediactric pulmonologist? We use the nebulizer with albuterol/pulmocort when things get bad, otherwise inhalers keep the wheezing at bay. I was wondering about the sound you say is coming from your childs throat, is it possible he has croup and the stridor that happens with that is what you hear? Good luck and let us know what happens. Trudy.
Mary - 13 Jan 2005 21:00 GMT > I have no idea of what happened. I hope something is not wrong with my > computer. Why would it keep printing those messages over and over? > Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com Perhaps it is God's way of showing you how your normal posts come across here?
ARoberts - 14 Jan 2005 03:22 GMT >> I have no idea of what happened. I hope something is not wrong with my >> computer. Why would it keep printing those messages over and over? >> Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com > > Perhaps it is God's way of showing you how your normal > posts come across here? LOL!
Number 8 - 18 Jan 2005 13:13 GMT Hey there, ARoberts is still playing netcop- geez you must be fat
>>> I have no idea of what happened. I hope something is not wrong with my >>> computer. Why would it keep printing those messages over and over? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > LOL! ARoberts - 23 Jan 2005 03:40 GMT > Hey there, ARoberts is still playing netcop- It just seems that way since you have arrested development.
Joy - 23 Jan 2005 04:25 GMT > > Hey there, ARoberts is still playing netcop- > > It just seems that way since you have arrested development. Do the big ignore. A jerk is always a jerk Growing up changes nothing.
Number 8 - 23 Jan 2005 11:57 GMT do u people have t-shirts that say:
"NET COP" "read the FAQ"
if not, you should.
>> > Hey there, ARoberts is still playing netcop- >> >> It just seems that way since you have arrested development. > > Do the big ignore. A jerk is always a jerk Growing up changes nothing. Mary - 23 Jan 2005 17:42 GMT > do u people have t-shirts that say: > > "NET COP" > "read the FAQ" > > if not, you should. They really do suck, don't they? It's as though what they really want is a group full of people just like them who sit around agreeing with one another all the time. Not very helpful.
ARoberts - 23 Jan 2005 19:11 GMT >> do u people have t-shirts that say: >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > just like them who sit around agreeing with one > another all the time. Not very helpful. What's funny about this thread is that he posted his "net cop" critique about what you had posted. All I had done was post "LOL" in response to what you had said. Now you are joining him in complaining about your own posting. Amazing.
Mary - 23 Jan 2005 19:52 GMT > >> do u people have t-shirts that say: > >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > What's funny about this thread is that he posted his "net cop" critique > about what you had posted. Wow, you're a liar, too.
All I had done was post "LOL" in response to
> what you had said. Now you are joining him in complaining about your own > posting. Amazing. Wake up, stupid. Here is his post. The post to which he replied is below it.
"do u people have t-shirts that say:
"NET COP" "read the FAQ"
if not, you should."
>> "Number 8" <yeahright@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message >> news:ZX7Hd.123398$K7.20564@news-server.bigpond.net.au... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Do the big ignore. A jerk is always a jerk Growing up changes nothing. ARoberts - 23 Jan 2005 20:22 GMT >> >> do u people have t-shirts that say: >> >> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > if not, you should." Maybe it's you who should wake up. Here's the infamous post (1/18/2005) that started this inane thread and it was in response to _you_:
Hey there, ARoberts is still playing netcop- geez you must be fat
>>> I have no idea of what happened. I hope something is not wrong with my >>> computer. Why would it keep printing those messages over and over? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > LOL! Mary - 23 Jan 2005 22:53 GMT > Maybe it's you who should wake up. Here's the infamous post (1/18/2005) > that started this inane thread and it was in response to _you_: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > > > LOL! Excuse me? WTF are you talking about? You don't actually THINK you are making sense, do you?
ARoberts - 23 Jan 2005 23:08 GMT >> Maybe it's you who should wake up. Here's the infamous post (1/18/2005) >> that started this inane thread and it was in response to _you_: [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> > >> > LOL! "Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote in message .
> Excuse me? WTF are you talking about? You don't actually THINK you > are making sense, do you? It's just the recorded history. There's little for you to do but read and comprehend the history of your own post. Is your attention span really so short? You obviously added the "aboutfelines" for cover.
Mary - 24 Jan 2005 00:23 GMT > >> Maybe it's you who should wake up. Here's the infamous post (1/18/2005) > >> that started this inane thread and it was in response to _you_: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > comprehend the history of your own post. Is your attention span really so > short? You obviously added the "aboutfelines" for cover. lol! Here's a clue for you, a.shole: just saying it is so doesn't make it so. Idiot.
ARoberts - 24 Jan 2005 01:51 GMT >> >> Maybe it's you who should wake up. Here's the infamous post > (1/18/2005) [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > lol! Here's a clue for you, a.shole: just saying it is so doesn't > make it so. It's a matter of record. I didn't "say so", it was a verbatim copy of your posting of 1/18/05. Weasel all you want, it's there for all to see--it doesn't just disappear from usenet--it's easy to google. Keep denying it though--it marks you as the dishonest troll that you are.
You keep mistaking aggression and swearing for accuracy and wit. It's not working.
> Idiot. Oh ok, so you're crazy _and_ an idiot. Sorry for the omission.
Mary - 24 Jan 2005 02:40 GMT > >> >> Maybe it's you who should wake up. Here's the infamous post > > (1/18/2005) [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] > > Oh ok, so you're crazy _and_ an idiot. Sorry for the omission. You're the worst kind of idiot--the kind who thinks he's smarter than everyone else. Rich!
ARoberts - 24 Jan 2005 04:16 GMT >> >> >> Maybe it's you who should wake up. Here's the infamous post >> > (1/18/2005) [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > You're the worst kind of idiot--the kind who thinks he's smarter > than everyone else. Rich! Nope. Just revealing your lie. It was easy.
Mary - 24 Jan 2005 17:38 GMT > Nope. Just revealing your lie. It was easy. Hee. You can say "lalalalala" all you want and hold your ears too. Everyone can read, dumbass. lol
ARoberts - 25 Jan 2005 06:58 GMT >> Nope. Just revealing your lie. It was easy. > > Hee. You can say "lalalalala" all you want and hold your ears too. > Everyone > can read, dumbass. lol With the exception of you, obviously. Anti-psychotics wearing off?
Mary - 26 Jan 2005 00:30 GMT > >> Nope. Just revealing your lie. It was easy. > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > With the exception of you, obviously. Anti-psychotics wearing off? Apparently not, you are still here.
ARoberts - 26 Jan 2005 02:03 GMT >> >> Nope. Just revealing your lie. It was easy. >> > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Apparently not, you are still here. Of course I am; I'm your favorite delusion :-)
Mary - 26 Jan 2005 06:17 GMT > >> >> Nope. Just revealing your lie. It was easy. > >> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Of course I am; I'm your favorite delusion :-) Mmm hmm. Your delusions of grandeur are showing, butwipe.
Joy - 26 Jan 2005 13:58 GMT > Of course I am; I'm your favorite delusion :-) I liked it! Clever!
Joy
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