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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / December 2004fatigue w/asthma flare up?
first med wise I take: advair (highest dose), singulair, atrovent, flonase, clartin & patanol...have home nebulizer...usally these meds work well & keep it under control winter is always worse for my asthma, past 3 days it's gotten bad I'm using my nebulizer every 6 hrs & I have called for dr appt...but along with it I'm having severe fatigue is this to do with the asthma flare up? ensoul When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent human misery rather than avenge it? ~Eleanor Roosevelt > first med wise I take: advair (highest dose), singulair, atrovent, flonase, > clartin & patanol...have home nebulizer...usally these meds work well & keep it [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > ensoul Fatigue is one of the hallmarks of not getting enough oxygen. I have it too, though I am on Advair and Claritin, and have a rescue inhaler (albuterol) should I need it. > > first med wise I take: advair (highest dose), singulair, atrovent, > flonase, [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > though I am on Advair and Claritin, and have a rescue inhaler (albuterol) > should I need it. Fatigue and asthma can be triggered by hidden food allergies. Visit or call an allergist. Food allergies can cause mild or severe reactions. They can also be delayed by up to 72 hours after you eat a food. Many people don't realize that foods are used to make the additives in foods. You may be allergic to them. Food allergies can cause psoriasis, eczema, joint pain, and many other problems. Doctors have written books about this. Check out "Food Allergies and Food intolerance" by Dr. Jonathan Brostoff. Take Care, Brad_Chad62@msn.com > Fatigue and asthma can be triggered by hidden food allergies. Second virtually identical post --> killfile. Brad, meet Sheldon. Sheldon, Brad. ObAsthma: my friend with asthma recently had a checkup which featured a bloodtest. His eosinophils were high (no shock there) but his neutrophils and something-else-o-phils were normal. I'm curious if those of you whose asthma was improved by antibiotics had a high level of the non-eosinophil o-phils in a blood test before starting treatment.  SignatureAlison Chaiken "From:" address above is valid. (650) 236-2231 [daytime] http://www.wsrcc.com/alison/ Nil tibi scribo quidem, quod non prius ipse probassem. -- Heraclius > > Fatigue and asthma can be triggered by hidden food allergies. > > Second virtually identical post --> killfile. Brad, meet Sheldon.Sheldon, Brad. Only idiots feel the need to announce it when they killfile. If you had anything interesting to say after the above, I'm afraid I had to miss it. I never killfile. I just don't read the posts of those who annoy me. > > > Fatigue and asthma can be triggered by hidden food allergies. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > anything interesting to say after the above, I'm afraid I had to miss it. I > never killfile. I just don't read the posts of those who annoy me. Not true newbie.This is someone who offends everyone. You have only to USE you computer to GOOGLE the groups and READ all the pasts posts before you stick your foot in your mouth. > > "Alison Chaiken" > <alison+gnus20041201T202452@dailyplanet.dontspam.wsrcc.com> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > you computer to GOOGLE the groups and READ all the pasts posts before you > stick your foot in your mouth. I don't have to do anything of the sort. I care nothing for the History of the Group, or the Party Line of one or another faction. This is Usenet, not a private club. It's about the exchange of information. I'm not interested in anything beyond that, but you knock yourself out. > > > Fatigue and asthma can be triggered by hidden food allergies. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > anything interesting to say after the above, I'm afraid I had to miss it. I > never killfile. I just don't read the posts of those who annoy me. Did I mention HOW sick I am of people how DON'T bother to lurk and learn and end up making idiots of themselves. As far as I am concerned, I see no reason to let the flame wars start by NEWBIE'S who fail to have followed netiquette and who don't even have a clue who the REGULAR players are. HOW 'bout this one MAR?. Sheldon thinks his wife's problems are fixed by a purple dildo. You knew that of course. HE would be so happy to introduce YOU to that fact.You just STEPPED in it. LEARN. > > "Alison Chaiken" > <alison+gnus20041201T202452@dailyplanet.dontspam.wsrcc.com> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > purple dildo. You knew that of course. HE would be so happy to introduce YOU > to that fact.You just STEPPED in it. LEARN. Feel better? Now then: I don't care. About any of it, or how sick any of it makes you. I should have known that would be your attitude. It takes someone who is totally socially inept to have made the mistake in the first place. No surprise here that you can't see it now either. > Feel better? Now then: I don't care. About any of it, or how sick any of it > makes you. > I should have known that would be your attitude. It takes someone who is > totally socially inept to have made the mistake in the first place. No > surprise here that you can't see it now either. > > Feel better? Now then: I don't care. About any of it, or how sick any of > it > > makes you. This coming from a post-humping top-poster. Heh. Yes, Joy, that's right. It is all a very Intricate Process with the "Newbies" as you put it having to Jump Through Hoops dictated by the Group Regulars who then decide if they are Worthy. Pffft. Get over yourself. It's Usenet. You don't make the rules. Twit. > > I should have known that would be your attitude. It takes someone who is > > totally socially inept to have made the mistake in the first place. No [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Regulars who then decide if they are Worthy. Pffft. Get over yourself. > It's Usenet. You don't make the rules. Twit. calling is sooooooo effective. Pretty much defines your maturity level. Yes, this is Usenet Mary only you don't seem to want the rules to apply to you. You actually go so far as to pretend they don't exist. And of course, you wouldn't bother to search about "lurk and learn" in Netiquette which would have indeed proved you're wrong. So I thought I would help you out. http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/cctam016.htm Group behavior lends itself to a different set of rules, and those rules vary from group to group. For example, flames, or inflammatory messages, might be considered rude in one newsgroup and normal behavior in another. The rule of thumb for dealing with newsgroups is to 'lurk,' or watch without participating, until you know what is expected of you. Some newsgroups or message boards have FAQs (frequently asked questions) that explain the normal procedures of the group. http://www.usenetmonster.com/infocenter/articles/usenet_netiquette.asp Usenet Beyond the etiquette required for email, usenet has some specific etiquette points of its own, including: Be sure to lurk for a while before you post. Get the flavor of a group and don't embarrass yourself by posting a question that had just been answered 16 times. People will flame you for this, and the polite ones will yell "READ THE FAQ" http://www.entrepreneur.com/iwork/iworkarticle/0,4961,292633,00.html Before you post your first message, sit on the sidelines for a while to learn how participants play the newsgroup game. This "lurking" gives you a sense of what participants in each newsgroup expect to learn from the community, how they interact with each other and how you can add value to their conversations. Participate only after you've gathered this information. Subtlety is Key! When it's time to start posting messages to the group, subtlety and tact are your two best weapons. http://www.help2go.com/article80.html 8) Lurk before you post Finally, when participating in a discussion, it is polite to learn about the discussion guidelines before posting a question. For instance, when joining an e-mail listserv or newsgroup, you should read the messages for a few days before posting. Reading several days worth of messages without posting is called lurking, and it is an excellent way for you to get a feel for the discussion being had. If you have a question to ask, first find out if there is a related discussion archive or FAQ. A discussion archive is a compilation of all messages in the group. An answer for your question probably lies within that archive. Another good resource is the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) for the listserv/newsgroup. This is simply a web page that has basic questions and answers related to the discussion. Joy > > > I should have known that would be your attitude. It takes someone who is > > > totally socially inept to have made the mistake in the first place. No [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Regulars who then decide if they are Worthy. Pffft. Get over yourself. > > It's Usenet. You don't make the rules. Twit. >> > Fatigue and asthma can be triggered by hidden food allergies. >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >anything interesting to say after the above, I'm afraid I had to miss it. I >never killfile. I just don't read the posts of those who annoy me. Interesting. Evidently then, you, a scintillating star of brilliance, feel the need to announce it when you won't read a post. Alison is burning a few more than 60 watts Mary. Go ahead, stretch yourself a little; read her posts. Her brilliance might even add to yours. > >> > Fatigue and asthma can be triggered by hidden food allergies. > >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > burning a few more than 60 watts Mary. Go ahead, stretch yourself a > little; read her posts. Her brilliance might even add to yours. Bob, Bob, Bob. Please try to stick to the topic at hand. Alison's comment was stupid. Only idiots feel the need to announce it when they employ their killfile. I don't give a rat's a.s who Alithon killfiles and I suspect not many others do either. the OP, whom she informs us is repeating himself, was at least offering some information besides that which reflects on his own shitty nature. Moreover, made no claims regarding my own intellect. Now do try to keep up, there's a good twit. >> >"Alison Chaiken" ><alison+gnus20041201T202452@dailyplanet.dontspam.wsrcc.com> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > >Now do try to keep up, there's a good twit. Thank you for clarifying your true colors. Hey Bob, Nice to be in the company of such a great fellow twit! Joy > >> >"Alison Chaiken" > ><alison+gnus20041201T202452@dailyplanet.dontspam.wsrcc.com> [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > > Thank you for clarifying your true colors. >Hey Bob, > >Nice to be in the company of such a great fellow twit! Tu-whit tu-whoo to you too... http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=tu-whit "Bob" <drbob4prevention@hotmail.com> wrote > >Now do try to keep up, there's a good twit. > Thank you for clarifying your true colors. Not a problem. > Bob, Bob, Bob. Please try to stick to the topic at hand. > Alison's comment was stupid. Only idiots feel the need to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Now do try to keep up, there's a good twit. Mary, Mary, Mary, In the past some of the new members of the group have been intimidated by Sheldon's posts. Those of us who are regulars have taken to warning people that is normal behavior for him and that the best course of action is to killfile. If you would like, I can Google the group over the last year and provide real links to posts of confused and hurt newbies.Then you can see why Alison did it. But why you felt you had to say anything is totally beyond me. You see to have a problem. Joy > Bob, Bob, Bob. Please try to stick to the topic at hand. > Alison's comment was stupid. Only idiots feel the need to > announce it when they employ their killfile. So could you explain the difference between announcing that you are killfiling someone and announcing that you no longer intend to read their posts - specifically relate it to what it means about their intelligence. > I don't give a rat's a.s > who Alithon killfiles and I suspect not many others do > either. OK- fine enough. I understand that you don't care about it. Really, I wouldn't think many people would care. However, I'm curious about why you feel so strongly that she shouldn't have posted what she did yet you think that we all want to hear about what *you* think about the whole matter. I'm trying to be charitable and not think of you as a hypocrite but I'm having trouble finding a logical way around it. Anything you can say to enlighten me would be helpful. Thanks in advance - and BTW - welcome to the group. Signature00doc > > Bob, Bob, Bob. Please try to stick to the topic at hand. > > Alison's comment was stupid. Only idiots feel the need to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > intend to read their posts - specifically relate it to what > it means about their intelligence. Bing Bing Bing! You failed the Reading Comprehension portion of the Quiz. I never announced anything of the sort. Go back and try again. > > I don't give a rat's a.s > > who Alithon killfiles and I suspect not many others do [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > shouldn't have posted what she did yet you think that we all > want to hear about what *you* think about the whole matter. Um, because I post what I like. And ... bing bing bing! You guessed it! I don't CARE what you want to hear about, or what you don't. Comprende? > I'm trying to be charitable and not think of you as a > hypocrite but I'm having trouble finding a logical way > around it. Anything you can say to enlighten me would be > helpful. Never try to do anything that goes against your natural grain unless there are clear benefits to you. Being charitable to a stranger in a newsgroup ought not to be high on that list. > Thanks in advance - and BTW - welcome to the group. You're welcome. >> > Bob, Bob, Bob. Please try to stick to the topic at hand. >> > Alison's comment was stupid. Only idiots feel the need to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >of the Quiz. I never announced anything of the sort. Go back and >try again. Mary, you called Alison an idiot, which is not only rude, but untrue. Do you know what the word idiot means? It appears that you don't. It means a stupid person. Do you know what stupid means? It means not intelligent. So there is the crux of the matter. You are using words that you either don't mean or you do mean. If you don't mean them, then you appear to be so defensive that you will not apologize for using them. If you do mean them, then you are mistaken, and still owe Alison an apology. So buck up or bail out. You miss the point of Mary's post. CBI states there's no difference between announcing that someone is being killfiled and announcing that you no longer intend to read a persons posts. Mary says she never said that she announces it when she decides she isn't going to read someones posts. But here's the point I want to make, Mary. While I agreed with you that there seems to be a caste system involved in news groups that can be insufferable, you've now managed to attack several people here. If you're here for help with asthma, who do you think is going to help you out at this point? Don't bother with your typical response that you don't care, etc., because I doubt anyone cares whether you care or not. Who will help you if you have a question now that you've endeared yourself to so many people here? Or, if you're here to help people - how are you doing that? On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:22:21 GMT, "Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Mary wrote: >> > >> > Bob, Bob, Bob. Please try to stick to the topic at hand. >> > Alison's comment was stupid. Only idiots feel the need to >> > announce it when they employ their killfile. >> >> So could you explain the difference between announcing that >> you are killfiling someone and announcing that you no longer >> intend to read their posts - specifically relate it to what >> it means about their intelligence. >> > >Bing Bing Bing! You failed the Reading Comprehension portion >of the Quiz. I never announced anything of the sort. Go back and >try again. Mary, you called Alison an idiot, which is not only rude, but untrue. Do you know what the word idiot means? It appears that you don't. It means a stupid person. Do you know what stupid means? It means not intelligent. So there is the crux of the matter. You are using words that you either don't mean or you do mean. If you don't mean them, then you appear to be so defensive that you will not apologize for using them. If you do mean them, then you are mistaken, and still owe Alison an apology. So buck up or bail out > You miss the point of Mary's post. CBI states there's no > difference [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > isn't going to > read someones posts. Yes - and in this case she came out and said that she considers the person tobe in the group she does not read - pretty much announcing that she would not read the persons posts. The saddest part is that she doesn't seem to be sincere about any of it. Signature00doc > > You miss the point of Mary's post. CBI states there's no > > difference [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > pretty much announcing that she would not read the persons > posts. Wow. I'd reply but I don't have my decoder ring. Is English your second language? >The saddest part is that she doesn't seem to be > sincere about any of it. There are many sad, sad things in life, grasshopper. Try the Zen method of letting GO of your need to control expression in this, a Usenet group that is an unmoderated global forum and you may have happier days. > Yes - and in this case she came out and said that she > considers the person tobe in the group she does not read - > pretty much announcing that she would not read the persons > posts. The saddest part is that she doesn't seem to be > sincere about any of it. Yeah, but that won't bother me in the least if she fails to read my posts. All the more power to her, but she really needs to reconfigure where she is spending her efforts Joy >"NorthShoreCEO" <NorthShoreCEO@aol.com> wrote in message news:hKnsd.199354$R05.104231@attbi_s53... >You miss the point of Mary's post. CBI states there's no difference between announcing that someone is being killfiled and >announcing that you no longer intend to read a persons posts. Mary says she never said that she announces it when she >decides she isn't going to read someones posts. >But here's the point I want to make, Mary. While I agreed with you that there seems to be a caste system involved in news >groups that can be insufferable, you've now managed to attack several people here. If you're here for help with asthma, who >do you think is going to help you out at this point? Don't bother with your typical response that you don't care, etc., because >I doubt anyone cares whether you care or not. Who will help you if you have a question now that you've endeared yourself >to so many people here? Or, if you're here to help people - how are you doing that? I'm here to participate in the free and uncensored exchange of ideas and experiences, including everything we have so far shared. If you don't like what I have to say or the way I say it then spare yourself by not reading my posts. Period. What you will not do is control content or tone. On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:22:21 GMT, "Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > Bob, Bob, Bob. Please try to stick to the topic at hand. >> > Alison's comment was stupid. Only idiots feel the need to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >of the Quiz. I never announced anything of the sort. Go back and >try again. Mary, you called Alison an idiot, which is not only rude, but untrue. Do you know what the word idiot means? It appears that you don't. It means a stupid person. Do you know what stupid means? It means not intelligent. So there is the crux of the matter. You are using words that you either don't mean or you do mean. If you don't mean them, then you appear to be so defensive that you will not apologize for using them. If you do mean them, then you are mistaken, and still owe Alison an apology. So buck up or bail out. I ask you a simple question and you go off about my wanting to control content and tone? Your road rage is never ending. If by participating you mean talking to yourself, then have at it. At this point I think anyone who gives you the attention you so desperately seek with your temper tantrums is probably as bad off as you are. I'd say I'd pray for you, but I'm guessing you're an atheist. :-) Now go ahead and waste bandwidth having temper tantrum #37, but just know that this idiot will either killfile you or choose not to read it. And I'm not even part of the club! >"NorthShoreCEO" <NorthShoreCEO@aol.com> wrote in message news:hKnsd.199354$R05.104231@attbi_s53... >You miss the point of Mary's post. CBI states there's no difference between announcing that someone is being killfiled and >announcing that you no longer intend to read a persons posts. Mary says she never said that she announces it when she >decides she isn't going to read someones posts. >But here's the point I want to make, Mary. While I agreed with you that there seems to be a caste system involved in news >groups that can be insufferable, you've now managed to attack several people here. If you're here for help with asthma, who >do you think is going to help you out at this point? Don't bother with your typical response that you don't care, etc., because >I doubt anyone cares whether you care or not. Who will help you if you have a question now that you've endeared yourself >to so many people here? Or, if you're here to help people - how are you doing that? I'm here to participate in the free and uncensored exchange of ideas and experiences, including everything we have so far shared. If you don't like what I have to say or the way I say it then spare yourself by not reading my posts. Period. What you will not do is control content or tone. "Bob" <drbob4prevention@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:dav3r0tnr8o4mp0n4858addquksk2oe4nf@4ax.com... On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:22:21 GMT, "Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote: >> > >> > Bob, Bob, Bob. Please try to stick to the topic at hand. >> > Alison's comment was stupid. Only idiots feel the need to >> > announce it when they employ their killfile. >> >> So could you explain the difference between announcing that >> you are killfiling someone and announcing that you no longer >> intend to read their posts - specifically relate it to what >> it means about their intelligence. >> > >Bing Bing Bing! You failed the Reading Comprehension portion >of the Quiz. I never announced anything of the sort. Go back and >try again. Mary, you called Alison an idiot, which is not only rude, but untrue. Do you know what the word idiot means? It appears that you don't. It means a stupid person. Do you know what stupid means? It means not intelligent. So there is the crux of the matter. You are using words that you either don't mean or you do mean. If you don't mean them, then you appear to be so defensive that you will not apologize for using them. If you do mean them, then you are mistaken, and still owe Alison an apology. So buck up or bail out. >I ask you a simple question and you go off about my >wanting to control content and tone? Your road rage is >never ending. If by participating you mean talking to >yourself, then have at it. At this point I think anyone who >gives you the attention you so desperately seek with your >temper tantrums is probably as bad off as you are. What temper tantrums, top-posting fool? What I said was: >>I'm here to participate in the free and uncensored exchange of ideas and >>experiences, including everything we have so far shared. If you don't like >>what I have to say orthe way I say it then spare yourself by not reading >>my posts. Period. >>What you will not do is control content or tone. There's no emotion at all in that post. >I'd say I'd pray for you, but I'm guessing you're an atheist. :-) >Now go ahead and waste bandwidth having temper tantrum #37, >but just know that this idiot will either killfile you or choose not to read it. >And I'm not even part of the club! I haven't even had temper tantrum 1 yet. By God this IS a funny group. >"NorthShoreCEO" <NorthShoreCEO@aol.com> wrote in message news:hKnsd.199354$R05.104231@attbi_s53... >You miss the point of Mary's post. CBI states there's no difference between announcing that someone is being killfiled and >announcing that you no longer intend to read a persons posts. Mary says she never said that she announces it when she >decides she isn't going to read someones posts. >But here's the point I want to make, Mary. While I agreed with you that there seems to be a caste system involved in news >groups that can be insufferable, you've now managed to attack several people here. If you're here for help with asthma, who >do you think is going to help you out at this point? Don't bother with your typical response that you don't care, etc., because >I doubt anyone cares whether you care or not. Who will help you if you have a question now that you've endeared yourself >to so many people here? Or, if you're here to help people - how are you doing that? I'm here to participate in the free and uncensored exchange of ideas and experiences, including everything we have so far shared. If you don't like what I have to say or the way I say it then spare yourself by not reading my posts. Period. What you will not do is control content or tone. On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:22:21 GMT, "Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Mary wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >of the Quiz. I never announced anything of the sort. Go back and >try again. Mary, you called Alison an idiot, which is not only rude, but untrue. Do you know what the word idiot means? It appears that you don't. It means a stupid person. Do you know what stupid means? It means not intelligent. So there is the crux of the matter. You are using words that you either don't mean or you do mean. If you don't mean them, then you appear to be so defensive that you will not apologize for using them. If you do mean them, then you are mistaken, and still owe Alison an apology. So buck up or bail out. > >> > Bob, Bob, Bob. Please try to stick to the topic at hand. > >> > Alison's comment was stupid. Only idiots feel the need to [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Do you know what the word idiot means? It appears that you don't. It > means a >So there is the crux of the matter. No, there is NOT. I have a firm grasp of the meaning of many words (my therapist allows me to read the dictionary between sessions) and a FIRM OPINION that only idiots feel the need to announce it when they use their kill file. Therefore the rest of your misguided, nauseatingly paternal diatribe does not follow. >You are using words > that you either don't mean or you do mean. If you don't mean them, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > So buck up or bail out. Piss off. >> >> > Bob, Bob, Bob. Please try to stick to the topic at hand. >> >> > Alison's comment was stupid. Only idiots feel the need to [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >they use their kill file. Therefore the rest of your misguided, >nauseatingly paternal diatribe does not follow. You've made your point(s), and your therapist is either a charlatan, or is not being paid enough to effect a more appropriate outcome for his/her patient. However, who knows, you may have come a long way already. Time will tell. >>You are using words >> that you either don't mean or you do mean. If you don't mean them, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Piss off. Yes, of course. > >> >> > Bob, Bob, Bob. Please try to stick to the topic at hand. > >> >> > Alison's comment was stupid. Only idiots feel the need to [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > his/her patient. However, who knows, you may have come a long way > already. Time will tell. Oh, I have! He's let me out of the restraints and all! > >>You are using words > >> that you either don't mean or you do mean. If you don't mean them, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Yes, of course. Well that was easy. Bob, meet Joy. Take her with you. She doesn't even HAVE asthma, for Christ's sake, she just likes Codeine. >> >> >> > Bob, Bob, Bob. Please try to stick to the topic at hand. >> >> >> > Alison's comment was stupid. Only idiots feel the need to [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] >Bob, meet Joy. Take her with you. She doesn't even HAVE >asthma, for Christ's sake, she just likes Codeine. Joy and I are already acquainted; thank you. And for Christ's sake, we will leave it at that. > >> >> >> > Bob, Bob, Bob. Please try to stick to the topic at hand. > >> >> >> > Alison's comment was stupid. Only idiots feel the need to [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > Joy and I are already acquainted; thank you. And for Christ's sake, > we will leave it at that. We? Did you say "WE?" >> >> >> On Sat, 04 Dec 2004 16:22:21 GMT, "Mary" ><crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > >We? Did you say "WE?" Yes; think of it in the grandiloquent sense. > >> >Bob, meet Joy. Take her with you. She doesn't even HAVE > >> >asthma, for Christ's sake, she just likes Codeine. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Yes; think of it in the grandiloquent sense. Bob, just let it go. She's just bitchy as Jack says. You can tell she is irritated. She is posting about every hour. And by top poster, I mean for every post of all of us, she has a post. So she has in the last few days managed to be the "Post humper" she accused me of being. Actually, I usually let a post sit for a couple of days to see if someone else will answer. When they don't, I try to help. So, if people think I am a post humper they might try answering some of the questions themselves. It would in fact, lighten my load. And yes, I have asthma, or something like it. I do require asthma meds in the summer. But, was unaware you had to have asthma to post here. She seems to know everything about this NG. Joy >> >> >Bob, meet Joy. Take her with you. She doesn't even HAVE >> >> >asthma, for Christ's sake, she just likes Codeine. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Bob, just let it go. She's just bitchy as Jack says. You can tell she is >irritated. She is posting about every hour. Kinda gives new meaning to 24/7, doesn't it? :) >And yes, I have asthma, or something like it. I do require asthma meds in >the summer. But, was unaware you had to have asthma to post here. You don't, as far as I know. "Support" seems to be the only requested requirement in order to participate. And, as you know, support can be given through several different avenues of approach. >She seems >to know everything about this NG. She doesn't; obviously. If she did, she wouldn't have bolted in as she did. Hopefully she will settle down as time goes by. Damn, Bob, could you at least fix your newsreader so that it might quite the "Re:Re:Re:" crap? I know you can master it. > Damn, Bob, could you at least fix your newsreader so that > it might quite the "Re:Re:Re:" crap? I know you can master it. Damn, Bob, Why don't we just fix everything Mary doesn't like. I know we can do it. But then there is the desire issue.................. Oh so sad for Mary, who is so complusive. Joy > Damn, Bob, > > Why don't we just fix everything Mary doesn't like. I know we can do it. But > then there is the desire issue.................. > > Oh so sad for Mary, who is so complusive. Oh Mary, Before you go on about this, I have to tell you I have soooooooooo much experience. My husband's family are all sufferers of OCD and I can spot you guys a mile away. Bummer. Joy > > Damn, Bob, > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Joy Poor Joy. Yet another "bummer" to get her poor panties all wadded up. :) >Poor Joy. Yet another "bummer" to get her poor panties all >wadded up. :) Um, Joy doesn't wear panties... they don't make em whale size! <G> Ahahahahahahahahahaha. . . . ---= BOYCOTT FRANCE (belgium) GERMANY--SPAIN =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- ********* "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation." Sheldon ```````````` > > Damn, Bob, > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Joy Speaking of OCD, um ... seven posts in seven minutes! You so funny. If only you were having fun. > > Before you go on about this, I have to tell you I have soooooooooo much > > experience. My husband's family are all sufferers of OCD and I can spot > you > > guys a mile away. Bummer. > > > > Joy Me too, but knowing the shoe fits............... > > > Before you go on about this, I have to tell you I have soooooooooo much > > > experience. My husband's family are all sufferers of OCD and I can spot [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > Joy > Me too, but knowing the shoe fits............... You too what? A clue: Usenet is not generally a place to talk to one's self. My sympathies re: the OCD problem. No wonder you crave codeine. My sympathies re: the OCD problem. > No wonder you crave codeine. Not only is it that you have to have your way, but OCD is always characterized by repetitiveness. HMMMMM Joy > My sympathies re: the OCD problem. > > No wonder you crave codeine. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Joy My way? What way? >> I'm trying to be charitable and not think of you as a >> hypocrite but I'm having trouble finding a logical way [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > a stranger in a newsgroup ought not to be high on that > list. As you wish. I aim to please. Signature00doc > >> I'm trying to be charitable and not think of you as a > >> hypocrite but I'm having trouble finding a logical way [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > As you wish. I aim to please. Ooo. Perhaps you should set lower standards? >>>> I'm trying to be charitable and not think of you as a >>>> hypocrite but I'm having trouble finding a logical way [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> > Ooo. Perhaps you should set lower standards? Plonk. Mary meet Sheldon. Sheldon this is Mary. > >>>> I'm trying to be charitable and not think of you as a > >>>> hypocrite but I'm having trouble finding a logical way [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Mary meet Sheldon. Sheldon this is Mary. Ooo! Yet another Idiot Who Must Announce It When He Uses His Killfile! lol >>>>> I'm trying to be charitable and not think of you as a >>>>> hypocrite but I'm having trouble finding a logical way [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > >Mary meet Sheldon. Sheldon this is Mary. What has Sheldon done to deserve this? Bitch lookin for trouble. > Bitch lookin for trouble. Yeah, you bet you Big Bad Webbie Sumbitch! Bring it. lol > > > Fatigue and asthma can be triggered by hidden food allergies. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > anything interesting to say after the above, I'm afraid I had to miss it. I > never killfile. I just don't read the posts of those who annoy me. Alison explained to me via email that Brad is a spammer. I was mistaken when I thought she was one of those "read the FAQ" types. Sorry, Alison, and thanks for setting me straight. Well, I find this odd, Mary. First of all, did you look back to see if Brad was actually a spammer? He's not, that I can see. He puts all his eggs in one basket (every ill points to food allergies), and is guilty of sometimes cutting and pasting the same message, but doesn't post anywhere that he's selling anything and always states people should see an allergist. If there's evidence that he's a spammer, I haven't seen it. "Mary" <crazyaboutfelines@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:I_xrd.24434$Mu3.1477378@twister.southeast.rr.com... > > "Alison Chaiken" <alison+gnus20041201T202452@dailyplanet.dontspam.wsrcc.com> > wrote in message news:x61xe91fzq.fsf@capsicum.wsrcc.com... > > > > Brad_Chad62@msn.com (Brad_Chad62) writes: > > > Fatigue and asthma can be triggered by hidden food allergies. > > > > Second virtually identical post --> killfile. Brad, meet Sheldon.Sheldon, > Brad. > > > > Only idiots feel the need to announce it when they killfile. If you had > anything interesting to say after the above, I'm afraid I had to miss it. I > never killfile. I just don't read the posts of those who annoy me. > > Alison explained to me via email that Brad is a spammer. I was mistaken when I thought she was one of those "read the FAQ" types. Sorry, Alison, and thanks for setting me straight. Well, I find this odd, Mary. First of all, did you look back to see if Brad was actually a spammer? He's not, that I can see. He puts all his eggs in one basket (every ill points to food allergies), and is guilty of sometimes cutting and pasting the same message, but doesn't post anywhere that he's selling anything and always states people should see an allergist. If there's evidence that he's a spammer, I haven't seen it. So I was right! Alison, you dog. Don't take my word for it. Do a search on Brad's posts and see if you think he's a spammer. Maybe I'm off base with my thinking. "NorthShoreCEO" <NorthShoreCEO@aol.com> wrote in message news:pM0sd.435515$wV.411370@attbi_s54... Well, I find this odd, Mary. First of all, did you look back to see if Brad was actually a spammer? He's not, that I can see. He puts all his eggs in one basket (every ill points to food allergies), and is guilty of sometimes cutting and pasting the same message, but doesn't post anywhere that he's selling anything and always states people should see an allergist. If there's evidence that he's a spammer, I haven't seen it. So I was right! Alison, you dog. I > never killfile. I just don't read the posts of those who annoy me. Ah, I must not have annoyed you enough yet then. Joy > I > > never killfile. I just don't read the posts of those who annoy me. > > Ah, I must not have annoyed you enough yet then. > > Joy I find you amusing. Others here might be ill-tempered due to how lousy breathing problems can make one feel, but you've said that you're all cured now and you're still an unpleasant control freak. > I find you amusing. Others here might be ill-tempered due to how > lousy breathing problems can make one feel, but you've said that you're > all cured now and you're still an unpleasant control freak. So you are blaming your current ill-tempered behavior on how badly you are feeling? Joy Hi, I've been lurking in the shadows. I just came here to learn more about asthma. Actually though, I've enjoyed the repartee. Mary, you are cool! Now I do have a question: what is a killfile and how does one do it? Uh oh, I suppose I should check the FAQs for the answer! On the other hand, where would I find the FAQs for this NG? Do they even exist? Keith >> I find you amusing. Others here might be ill-tempered due to how >> lousy breathing problems can make one feel, but you've said that you're [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Joy http://www.radix.net/~mwg/asthma-gen.html "I suppose I should check the FAQs for the answer! On the other hand, > where would I find the FAQs for this NG? Do they even exist? > Hi, > > I've been lurking in the shadows. I just came here to learn more about > asthma. Actually though, I've enjoyed the repartee. Mary, you are cool! Why thank you, Keith. I'm just trying to enjoy a rousing debate here, while learning about asthma from those who have it, and those who don't but like narcotics and so say they do. > Now I do have a question: what is a killfile and how does one do it? Uh > oh, I suppose I should check the FAQs for the answer! On the other hand, > where would I find the FAQs for this NG? Do they even exist? 1. People with self control don't need killfiles. 2. Never let the FAQ keep you from joining the discussion. Chance are it was written by an idiot control freak who would rather say "Read the FAQ" than engage in an open discussion. > Keith > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > > > Joy That is a laugh. You don't have any self control. Look at the last of your postings. You are in fact the top poster. And none of them are of any value to anyone. Joy > > Hi, > > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > > > > Joy > That is a laugh. You don't have any self control. Look at the last of your > postings. You are in fact the top poster. And none of them are of any value > to anyone. Oh my. You don't know what top posting is, do you dear? *snicker* > Joy > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > > > > > > > Joy > > I find you amusing. Others here might be ill-tempered due to how > > lousy breathing problems can make one feel, but you've said that you're > > all cured now and you're still an unpleasant control freak. > > So you are blaming your current ill-tempered behavior on how badly you are > feeling? No. Is that what I said? Bzzzzzt! Yet another twit fails reading comp.101! > first med wise I take: advair (highest dose), singulair, atrovent, > flonase, [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > is this to do with the asthma flare up? Yes. A few things you might try if you haven't already: 1. A humidifier - my lungs just don't work as well in extremes of temperature and humidity as to the lungs of people without asthma, and I imagine yours are somewhat the same. In the winter, I find sleeping with a room humidifier a must, and usually a humidifier next to my desk as well during the day, and one in the living room, too. (A whole-house solution is something we've considered but I like being able to get very close to the room type when I feel the need.) I also find that taking a long hot shower in an unventilated bathroom or going to a steam room can help. What I'm hinting at here is that part of what you get from the nebulizer is nice air to breath - this in addition to whatever medicine you're putting in it. 2. You might experiment with other anti-histamines if you haven't already. Claritin seems to me, overall, not terribly strong stuff and I prefer Zyrtec or especially Allegra most of the time - just personal preference but if you never tried the others, I'd get some samples and give them a go for at least a week each to see what you think. 3. Try breathing exercises if you haven't already - they may do absolutely nothing for you but they may help, too. The simplest one I've ever learned is to breath only through your nose for several minutes at a time, partially constricting your nose if necessary to make it feel like it's a bit of work to do (the partial constriction is not usually necessary in my case). Your body will eventually start to breath differently if you do this for long enough with a focus on breathing into the belly although please don't ask me to explain how because I don't know. I was at a weekend-long flexibility training where the focus was on mastering the art of muscle control and learning to relax your muscles as a way of increasing your range of motion. At the end of the weekend, the trainer had us all do this - just lay on the ground and force yourself to breath through a partially constricted nose for several minutes. Being asthmatic, it scared the daylights out of me and, given the history you've described, I would _not_ try this without someone else in the room, but it might be worth a try for you to see if it brings some relief. There are also lots of web sites with good information about breathing exercises - here are some links that were given to me on this newsgroup a few weeks ago: http://emphysemafoundation.org/pulhthex.aspx http://www.merck.com/mmhe/sec04/ch040/ch040k.html http://www.mgh.org/education/health/better.html http://library.nationaljewish.org/MSU/11n7MSU_Pulm_Rehab.html#RTFToC6 There is also an admittedly controversial school of thought called Buteyko which is discussed here from time to time you might want to read about. I've found this source - http://members.westnet.com.au/pkolb/buteyko.htm - to offer a rational perspective on the subject whereas a lot of folks get hysterical about it. I have never "followed" Buteyko in that I've never taken a class, read a book on the subject, etc., but I found the web site very interesting reading and it got me started thinking about things I hadn't considered before, always a good thing. Best of luck to you. -S- http://www.kbnj.com > ensoul > > When will our consciences grow so tender that we will act to prevent > human > misery rather than avenge it? > ~Eleanor Roosevelt > first med wise I take: advair (highest dose), singulair, atrovent, flonase, > clartin & patanol...have home nebulizer...usally these meds work well & keep it [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > is this to do with the asthma flare up? Well I used to experience exactly the same whenever I had a bad asthma flare up. I'd feel absolutely exhausted, so I'd say yes. However, I haven't had a flare up for the last few years. > ensoul Regards Norman Back I had chronic fatigue and asthma as a small child. My asthma seemed to disappear for many years, until I got hayfever and joint pain. When I was 40 I read a magazine article that said that Hidden food allergies may trigger several medical conditions. I saw an allergist. I found out that I was allergic to corn and dairy products. All of my problems seemed to disappear in a matter of days. I had enough energy to compete in the Olympics. Many doctors will not refer you to an allergist because they want to try to give you a quick fix. The quick fix is not necessarily the best fix. Did you know that 70% of asthma is triggered by food allergies? Talk to an allergist. Food allergist are more complex than most people think. Brad_Chad62@yahoo.com |
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