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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / November 2004For CBI
http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/450757_4 Another Thunderstorm theory "In contrast to our findings for fungal spores, we were unable to detect an association between emergency asthma visits and weeds, grasses, or trees. The aeroallergen effect was only slightly attenuated by coadjustment for ozone but did not appear to be sensitive to coadjustment to the other pollutants (NO2,SO2, coefficient of haze, and SO4). In summary, air pollutants were higher during thunderstorm days than days without thunderstorms, but the daily time-series analysis detected no statistically significant effect of these pollutants on asthma, whereas there was a significant effect of fungal spores. Thus, of all the climate and air quality changes observed during thunderstorms, only fungal spores could be shown to influence asthma hospital admissions." For those who are not members. > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/450757_4 > > Another Thunderstorm theory Thanx. For full Chest article (no sign-up), see http://www.chestjournal.org/cgi/content/full/123/3/745 Regards, Richard Friedel > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/450757_4 > > Another Thunderstorm theory People have noted a pretty consistant rise in asthma after thunderstorms. Most of the theories I have seen about why it happens have been about increased ozone levels produced by the lightning. I've never really found this to be all that convincing. Then there are the ever present psychological explainations that have also been underwhelming (the thunder scares/stresses the asthmatics). This would seem to be more plausible.  Signature00doc > > http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/450757_4 > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > This would seem to be more plausible. Yes and it goes along with my history of sensitization in a flooded house. If the C Pneumonia theory of Dr Martin at NJH is correct, the timing of the flood and pneumonia resulted in my asthma. I have also been watching the Allergic Fungal Sinusitis studies. That is the theory that some people have a adverse/abnormal reaction to mold resulting in Chronic Sinusitis. That I have yet to get over. And what they all seem to have in common is MOLD. Joy How about the relative humidity after and during a thunderstorm? I just had a discussion with someone who stated that headaches that occur during weather fronts are in fact migraines. Her point was that it is just the pressure change itself that results in all kind of symptoms, not the mold and not the humidity. To which I had to acknowledge that might be the cause of my asthma Thunderstorm problem. One day we may figure this out. Leave no stone unturned! Thanks Jack. Do you have symptoms during storms? > How about the relative humidity after and during a thunderstorm? I know a few people who get headaches from sudden changes in barometric pressure - and none of them have allergies or asthma and it's the only time they get headaches. It's probably one of those things that has multiple causes. >I just had a discussion with someone who stated that headaches >that occur [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> How about the relative humidity after and during a >> thunderstorm? > I know a few people who get headaches from sudden changes in > barometric pressure - and none of them have allergies or asthma > and it's the only time they get headaches. It's probably one of > those things that has multiple causes. I have never heard of this, but she was also telling me about people who can predict earthquakes. She said they get pain before or something. I will have to go back and find that post. Joy >I know a few people who get headaches from sudden changes in >barometric pressure - and none of them have allergies or asthma [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >>> How about the relative humidity after and during a >>> thunderstorm? I actually get the same headaches as the barometric pressure goes up. They are from Psuedo Tumor Cerebri, supposedly a side effect from steroids, but I can't find enough info on that to be sure. The day before it rains my head is killing me. By the time the rain is mid-over, Im feeling better. My asthma isn't as affected, unless the rain is a sudden one, or it accompanies a drastic change in weather, dry-humid, hot-cold, etc. Psuedo tumor is a condition where there is too much fluid in your spinal column and it puts pressure on your eyes, causing bad headaches. THe thingies (yeah, thats a technical term, LOL) that regulate the fluid don't work correctly. When the fluid is very high, you get papilledema in your eyes, which is swelling of the nerves. You then have to have a spinal tap to correct the fluid amount. I have had 3. To regulate it on a regular basis, I take Diamox which is a diuretic specifically targeted for the spinal column, I think. The only side effects, for me, is that I get pins & needles all the time in extremities and I can't drink anything carbonated - it tastes funny. You might want to check this out with your doctor. I didn't have any symptoms at the time except horrible headaches. Hope this helps. Life is uncertain - eat dessert first. Nancy 8=: ) That is so interesting and I will look into it somemore. Thanks. I am right now working on the difference between IBS and abdominal migraine. Joy > I actually get the same headaches as the barometric pressure goes up. They are > from Psuedo Tumor Cerebri, supposedly a side effect from steroids, but I can't [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Nancy > 8=: ) > That is so interesting and I will look into it somemore. Thanks. I am right > now working on the difference between IBS and abdominal migraine. You might want to look into in subclical Celiac Disease while you are at it. Signature00doc Thanks. Someone at CVSA suggested that I look into Celiac Disease. Things are just not making sense. My son's diagnosis is Cyclic vomiting syndrome. And there is a strong maternal inheritance suggesting Mitochondrial involvement. However, my husband's side is the one with the associated conditions like IBS (correct diagnosis or do they really all have abdominal migraines?), regular migraines and bipolar depression. I am thinking that it is time for testing - to see if it isn't something else. 12 years is a long time to put up with this problem. > > That is so interesting and I will look into it somemore. Thanks. I am right > > now working on the difference between IBS and abdominal migraine. > > You might want to look into in subclical Celiac Disease while you are at it. > To regulate it on a regular basis, I take Diamox > which is a diuretic specifically targeted for the spinal column, I think. The > only side effects, for me, is that I get pins & needles all the time in > extremities and I can't drink anything carbonated - it tastes funny. Actually it is a carbonic anhydrase inhibitor - it interferes with the enzyme that makes bicarb. Lowering the bicarb makes your blood more acidic which makes you breath harder and lowers the pCO2. Yeah, I know - Rich and KP will have a field day with this one. Breathing harder and having a lower pCO2 can lower intercranial pressure by restricting blood flow. I may be wrong on this one but as I recall Diamox also has a more direct effect on the production of CSF. BTW - it is also commonly used as a pretreatment to ward off altidude sickness. The idea is that you start the adaption to the high altidude - breathing harder and dumping bicarb - before you actually get there and so adapt more easily. Signature00doc >> To regulate it on a regular basis, I take Diamox >> which is a diuretic specifically targeted for the spinal column, I think. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >- breathing harder and dumping bicarb - before you actually get there >and so adapt more easily. Wow, thats so interesting. If it makes me breathe harder, shouldn't my asthma be worse? I'm actually almost totally off the steroids now (which is something I never thought I'd see). I'm down to 3mg a day, and in two months we take it down another notch. Is the acidity thing why soda tastes funny and I get the pins & needles? I reallllly miss seltzer, it was how I got a lot of my water in. I'd be interested to know anything about this that you do, and anything about Psuedo Tumor Cerebri in general. There is woefully little info out there on it. THanks in advance! Life is uncertain - eat dessert first. Nancy 8=: ) > >> To regulate it on a regular basis, I take Diamox > >> which is a diuretic specifically targeted for the spinal column, I think. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Wow, thats so interesting. If it makes me breathe harder, shouldn't my asthma > be worse? Depends on who you believe. ;-) The fact that you are not worse does suggest that "CHS" has little to do with your asthma and so certain therapies would be unlikely to help. > I'm actually almost totally off the steroids now (which is > something I never thought I'd see). I'm down to 3mg a day, > and in two months we take it down another notch. Cool - I find that things get tough when you ar eunder 5 mg per day. Going slow helps. Alternate day therapy is also something to look into if the just going down real slow doesn't cut it. > Is the acidity thing why soda tastes funny and I get the pins & > needles? I reallllly miss seltzer, it was how I got a lot of my > water in. I doubt it. The nedicine, like many medicines, can just cause a funny taste. I've never heard a good explanation for why some do this. > I'd be interested to know anything about this that you do, > and anything about Psuedo Tumor Cerebri in general. There > is woefully little info out there on it. That's because there is woefully little known about it - period. You probably know prety close to as much as I do about it. Signature00doc Jack, I don't that is it when I think more about it. The attacks I had during a Tstorm are noticeably worse than other attacks. And you would think that I would have trouble in a steamy shower if it were the relative humidity, when in fact, I used showers at times to stop attacks. Joy > How about the relative humidity after and during a thunderstorm? |
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