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Still on antibiotics and got a cold, no troubles!!

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Lissa - 02 Oct 2004 04:21 GMT
I know a few people from Asthmastory.com are around here and they will
understand this victory.  I am on week 7 of the treatment and caught a
bad cold this week. No trouble with my asthma at all! I just wanted to
share with people who would understand what that feels like!  If
anyone reads this, check out Asthmastory.com.  Worth a read!
NorthShoreCEO - 06 Oct 2004 03:31 GMT
> I know a few people from Asthmastory.com are around here and they will
> understand this victory.  I am on week 7 of the treatment and caught a
> bad cold this week. No trouble with my asthma at all! I just wanted to
> share with people who would understand what that feels like!  If
> anyone reads this, check out Asthmastory.com.  Worth a read!

Lissa, that's great to hear.  The anti-inflammatory properties of
the antibiotic could contribute to this, and being on an
antibiotic when you caught the cold could be the reason you
didn't suffer a secondary infection.  The fact that you didn't
have any breathing difficulties at all is a good sign, however.
I'll be anxious to hear how you're doing as you progress in your
treatment.  Thanks for the update!
jackmallory@webtv.net - 06 Oct 2004 16:55 GMT
Been feeling better in the last few weeks, better than I have in quite a
long time.  Been on the regimen seven weeks.  Adjusted the dosages three
weeks ago.

Something's right.  
Joy - 06 Oct 2004 17:27 GMT
> Been feeling better in the last few weeks, better than I have in quite a
> long time.  Been on the regimen seven weeks.  Adjusted the dosages three
> weeks ago.
>
> Something's right.

So what about your asthma made you think you could be helped? Did it start
with a respiratory infection or did you just think it was worth a shot? How
did you ever convince your doc?

Joy
jackmallory@webtv.net - 06 Oct 2004 18:13 GMT
Joy wrote
<<<So what about your asthma made you think you could be helped? Did it
start with a respiratory infection or did you just think it was worth a
shot? How did you ever convince your doc? >>>

Been reading Maureen and you for a while Joy.  Searched Dr Hahn. And, as
I've always handled Zithromax with ease, decided to give the regimen a
try.

My primary care doctor is an emergency room specialist and a personal
friend.  He's good about writing generous prescriptions for Levaquin,
prednisone, and Zithromax, all of which I need from time to time.---Jack
jackmallory@webtv.net - 06 Oct 2004 18:16 GMT
BTW Joy I've observed my upper respiratory infections seem to respond
more quickly to Zithromax than to Levaquin.  Should be the opposite,
shouldn' it?
Joy - 06 Oct 2004 19:05 GMT
> BTW Joy I've observed my upper respiratory infections seem to respond
> more quickly to Zithromax than to Levaquin.  Should be the opposite,
> shouldn' it?

Search me. I have never been able to speak to a doc who is treating asthma
with antibiotics. I have a bunch of saved up questions though if the
opportunity presents itself and I get to see one!

I am glad though that you are better. : )
I wish I had the answer for everyone. : (
Regardless what the medical profession says, asthma meds don't do enough.

Joy
NorthShoreCEO - 06 Oct 2004 21:07 GMT
You HAVE????????????   And you never told anybody????  You're in
the doghouse - but before you go out there (lol) - THAT'S
WONDERFUL, Jack!!!

When you say you adjusted the dosages three weeks ago, do you
mean your asthma meds?  I assume you're doing it safely by
eliminating them one at a time.
Regarding your question to Joy - I always responded better to
Azithromycin than Levoquin (when I would still take Levoquin), so
I'm wondering what makes you think it should be the other way
around?

Hope this works long term for you, Jack.  You can't believe how
it changes your life when you're not feeling sick and out of
breath all the time.

> Been feeling better in the last few weeks, better than I have in quite a
> long time.  Been on the regimen seven weeks.  Adjusted the dosages three
> weeks ago.
>
> Something's right.
jackmallory@webtv.net - 08 Oct 2004 18:41 GMT
This is Northshore addressing me, Jack:

<<<When you say you adjusted the dosages three weeks ago, do you mean
your asthma meds? I assume you're doing it safely by eliminating them
one at a time.
Regarding your question to Joy - I always responded better to
Azithromycin than Levoquin (when I would still take Levoquin), so I'm
wondering what makes you think it should be the other way around?>>>

It was the ezythromycin doses I adjusted.  I had been using the Z-packs
(400mg tabs).  When I asked the doctor for more he said "Do you want the
250 mgs?"  which I didn' know existed prior to then.

Someone had written (you?) the regimin was 500 mgs for four days and
then 750 mgs per week.  So that's what I've been doing, and shall
continue to do for the nex six to eight weeks.

I have Emphysema and Exercise Induced Asthma in addition to whatever
causes the constant precipitation of phlegm.  So I'm not stopping the
Spiriva, Pulmicort or albuterol--- not right away.

But I am feeling a whole lot better,  more energetic, and using a little
less supplimentary O2 than before.  

BTW after I take my weekly 750 mg dose I usually cough up a few more of
those green things.  The dead givaway there is a deep-seated infection
in my lungs. Lucky me!  

As far as Zythromax vs Levaquin,  it's my doctor's idea Levaquin is
better.  That's what he reads in bux---Jack
NorthShoreCEO - 09 Oct 2004 14:09 GMT
>Someone had written (you?) the regimin was 500 mgs for four days and
>then 750 mgs per week.  So that's what I've been doing, and shall
>continue to do for the nex six to eight weeks.

Yes, I've written of Dr. Hahn's regimen, which is actually 500
mgs for three days to jumpstart you, followed by weekly doses of
750 mgs.  The dosing above is just one extra day at 500mgs - so
close enough.

>I have Emphysema and Exercise Induced Asthma in addition to whatever
>causes the constant precipitation of phlegm.  So I'm not stopping the
>Spiriva, Pulmicort or albuterol--- not right away.

Smart move, Jack, and I know you'll work closely with your doctor
on this.

>But I am feeling a whole lot better,  more energetic, and using a little
>less supplimentary O2 than before.

That's wonderful!   It seems you're going to be at least in the
group that greatly improves - and that in itself will seem
miraculous.

>BTW after I take my weekly 750 mg dose I usually cough up a few more of
>those green things.  The dead givaway there is a deep-seated infection
>in my lungs. Lucky me!

That's amazing.  You know I've heard of another person who was
diagnosed with emphysema years ago and she finally convinced her
doctor to try Dr. Hahn's regimen, hoping she'd find some
improvement.  She was on the 750mgs for 12 weeks and felt greatly
improved and begged him to just let her continue taking it for a
while.  He agreed, but she had to go in to see him every two
weeks.  You know another two months on that and she was breathing
without any asthma meds at all.     She had been off of them for
about nine months when I'd heard the story.  That got me
wondering whether the bacteria could (in some cases), be so
debilitating that it appeared to be emphysema.  I don't know if
she was coughing up green plugs, but you're right, that in itself
signals an infection that apparently you've been walking around
with, which didn't present itself as an acute active infection.

>As far as Zythromax vs Levaquin,  it's my doctor's idea Levaquin is
>better.  That's what he reads in bux---Jack

You mean he reads boox, so he can make the bux, donchya?

Well, this is great news, Jack - I hope your situation is
resolved, but if not, we'll take greatly improved for you!
Please continue to keep us posted here and at the end of your
round after you've been off the meds for a time, send your
details to Jim Quinlan (or email them to me and I'll get them to
him) and he'll add them to the Succss Stories Forum.  He's shut
down the forums as read only, but he's still adding those success
stories.
Richard Friedel - 19 Oct 2004 17:15 GMT
> >Someone had written (you?) the regimin was 500 mgs for four days
>  and
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> 750 mgs.  The dosing above is just one extra day at 500mgs - so
> close enough.
...........
Question:
Is the mucus/gunk produced in Hahn-treatable asthma different to that
in other asthma forms?  Is it obviously bearing signs of bacterial
infection?
......

As usual, congrats on the work you are doing.  Richard Friedel
 
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