Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / February 2006
Out of Control? What could be the cause?
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Angela-Jo Arseneau - 02 Sep 2004 18:18 GMT I am on all the typical meds: Inhalers, Nose Spray, Eye Drops, antihistamines and sometimes decongestants. I just finished a course of prednisone. I had skin allergy tests this past week and the doctor said he was surprised at how out of control my allergies are. My environment is clean. If antihistamines aren't enough could it be something else causing my allergy symptoms?
what could be causing this?
merlin - 03 Sep 2004 01:22 GMT > I am on all the typical meds: Inhalers, Nose Spray, Eye Drops, > antihistamines and sometimes decongestants. I just finished a course [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > what could be causing this? Dear Angela-Joe, I am not a medical person but investigate asthmatic situations. Your description of control loss is consistant with a constant allergen exposure problem with increased sensitisation, most likely involving a chemical element or carpet problem. If you have an intense problem with house dust you will most likely find it being both these elements. I would strongly suggest getting out of your current situation temporarily to evaluate if there is any effect alteration, seaside location is usually best for evalution. Try not to expose yourself to anything with a scent temporarily, especially antiperspirant, chemical, perfume stuff or newsprint solvents etc.. I suggest it would be in your interest to understand Buteyko's breathing methods. If you find this helpful there is more helpful natural intelligence you can try. Your problem can be assisted substantially by natural commonsense once you learn the causes of your problem. Cheers, Merlin
Angela-Jo Arseneau - 03 Sep 2004 15:36 GMT I am able to prevent most asthma attacks as I have an exceptionally high lung capacity but the inflammation is still making me ill. I am exhausted all the time. My eyes, sinuses, eustation tubes, skin, mouth and lungs are constantly inflamed. I have been on all the steroid stuff for months and am still reacting.
I moved into an apartment with all hardwood and hepa filters in April. Possibly it is my work environment that could be causing the issue and we are moving to a cleaner location next month. Also I live in a foggy industrial city but the pollution counts have been great this summer.
I only tested positive for goats, one mold and some pollens. I am sick around much more and react to chemicals, shampoos, jeepers... just about everything. If I drink milk I react but it didn't show up in my skin test. The doc seems puzzled and I have heard that the specialists around here don't really know enough.
My parents who just split up after 36 years of marriage. I suppose stress would make things worse. But I love my job, my relationships, and my home. On the whole everything is great except my health.
Angela-Jo
00doc - 03 Sep 2004 01:54 GMT > I am on all the typical meds: Inhalers, Nose Spray, Eye Drops, > antihistamines and sometimes decongestants. I just finished a course [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > what could be causing this? The best bet is to avoid the triggers. This was probably at least part of the reason for the allergy tests - to find out what to avoid. Of course, another purpose is to find out if your porblems would be amenable to allergy shots.
Other than immunotherpay and trigger avoidance there are other meds to try. It may take some trial and error to find the combination that works for you.
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Angela-Jo Arseneau - 03 Sep 2004 15:39 GMT There is really nothing I can avoid more than I am now. I tried immunotherapy for 3 years and did not receive benefits. AAack. I think I am going to go back to the doc.
AJ
> The best bet is to avoid the triggers. This was probably at > least part of the reason for the allergy tests - to find out [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > other meds to try. It may take some trial and error to find > the combination that works for you. merlin - 07 Sep 2004 00:46 GMT > There is really nothing I can avoid more than I am now. I tried > immunotherapy for 3 years and did not receive benefits. AAack. I > think I am going to go back to the doc. > > AJ Dear Angela Joe, As you most obviously are aware the problem you are experiencing is most likely primarily caused by airborne substances, and in view of the effect severity, probably a petroleum or chemical substance to which you have significant exposure. You obviously have the watery eye, constant wheeziness with the dopiness or constant drowsiness with all the associated whistles and bells. How is your absenteeism at work? Delightful experience to examine in retrospect believe me. If you can establish any pattern as to when the problem effect is most evident, i.e. during the night or early morning it may indicate a possible bedroom problem source or wherever. If you can carefully examine the previous two hour window prior to any attack situation it helps identify potential items, especially if there is a pattern to it. Women have significantly greater problems than men, obviously related to the collective irritant nature of chemical substances they are exposed to in the form of body creams, antiperspirants, scented shampoos and all the other chemically scented female paraphenalia, not counting day to day cleaning substances etc. Once a sensitivity develops the only real effective method for assistance is zero tolerance, zero exposure, coupled with a desensitisation method of one kind or another. Never having any hot bathing or showering before retiring helps incredibly by reducing sensitivity suscrptibility to substances in the sleeping area, which commonly either are the problem or a major component of it. If you try the hot showering in the morning followed by a "full on" coldest showering idea for a couple of minutes you will find enormous benefit, especially in addresing the dopiness factor. If you would like more info on this technique let me know. It has amazing benefit for this kind of situation and is part of a desens routine which allowed me to overcome a similar asthmatic situation to yours, except I also temporarily relocated from my home location which was actually causing most of my problem sensitisation. (chemical residue) Shortly afterward I sold that home and moved to a different location. Using care, my asthma problem was no further problem and required no further medicaion substances. Since that time I have examined many hundreds of similarly affected situations and asisted many other sufferers to identify how their problem was being caused with excellent results for them. As you mention, stress is always heavily involved and general health is the third factor. You obviously have less than zero resistance to any cough cold or viral kind of thing. You mention that you have a Hepa filter, does this filter contain a carbon element by any chance? I have observed situations where an obvious gaseous element was involved in homes which had significant bearing on that persons problem. An ordinary filter doesn't normally help with gaseous kinds of items. Natural gas residue from heating or cooking also has obvious ill-effect in close home environments. One interesting clue to determining this kind of thing is when an affected person enters a home after it has been closed for a day or so and suddenly has a multiple sneezing fit. In itself on one occasion it doesn't mean much, but if this kind of thing is experienced as a regular event it is damning evidence of some problem being apparent there. Learning to interpret body signals is an incredible assitive method of determining these kinds of problems and is usually the best method of identifying basic problem areas. We are talking sneezing, watery eyes, sudden odd headaches, welting on skin, and numerous other signals. One item that you should be warned about is your exposure to airborne viral (or whatever) kinds of things with your current sensitised situation. Your presence in recirculated air systems where there are large volumes of people present and where the air quality is poorly filtered, especially such as an airplane, is not in your interest. The reason this becomes pertinent for your situation, especially as you will shortly be in the cold and flu season, is due to the detrimental effect these kinds of problems actually cause for you, decimating your minute resistive ability and worsening your asthmatic problem. I can accurately guess from my collected intelligence that you most likely have a history of repeated antibiotic use which also has an adverse bearing on your situation and could possibly have actually caused it's onset. Looking at the period a month or so after any antibiotic use, commonly shows a worsening of asthmatic effect with a moderate asthmatic person. Cheers, Merlin.
NorthShoreCEO - 03 Sep 2004 02:09 GMT Your environment can be clean and you can still have allergies. If you're allergic to anything in the air, that may be why they seem to be out of control. In many states people have really noticed their allergies bothering them this past week or so. If, by nose spray, you mean something like beconase or flonase, it takes a while for you to notice a difference. Hang in there and keep taking them and if you feel you're not getting any relief after a few weeks on them, talk to your doctor and see if he or she feels you should try something else.
> I am on all the typical meds: Inhalers, Nose Spray, Eye Drops, > antihistamines and sometimes decongestants. I just finished a course [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > what could be causing this? Joy - 03 Sep 2004 02:35 GMT > I am on all the typical meds: Inhalers, Nose Spray, Eye Drops, > antihistamines and sometimes decongestants. I just finished a course [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > what could be causing this? Angela,
I had a terrible spring 8 years ago, and I have never had a period that bad again (although I have had serious attacks, I have never had 4 straight months as bad as those - like you on every drug they could think of but not getting better). I have to this day, no for certain explanation why I was so bad during that period. What did you test out allergic to? ( if you don't mind my asking). I read somewhere years ago that if you were allergic to mold, there was little that could be done and I know mold counts are higher July, August, Sept and it is hard to avoid if you live in the south (for instance). I have always wondered about that.
Joy
Spicer - 24 Feb 2006 13:43 GMT >> I am on all the typical meds: Inhalers, Nose Spray, Eye Drops, >> antihistamines and sometimes decongestants. I just finished a course [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Joy Can I suggest that you visit http://ge-e.com this product has research, works and has featured on the Oprah Winfrey show, clips are on our website.
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