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Reflux and Coughing

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Steve Freides - 24 May 2004 02:56 GMT
It's been suggested to me here, in response to questions on a slightly
different subject, that my coughing may be related to reflux.  I notice
that many, but not all or even most, of my coughing episodes occur
shortly after eating.  My coughing episodes (you know, not just casual
coughing but rather a "productive" cough) are things I've come to think
of as beneficial because they clear my lungs, even if they are somewhat
taxing physically at times.  I also can associate them with, e.g., bike
rides and almost any other form of exercise, so I know it's not just
eating.  They often happen relatively randomly as well.

I'm not aware that I have a problem with gastric reflux - I do know
that, since I started sleeping with a single, thin, pillow to help my
sleep apnea, I have to be careful about eating right before bedtime, but
other than that, I don't have heartburn or any other symptoms I normally
associate with reflux.

Should I be tracking this more closely and/or talking about this with my
doctor?  (If matters, all blood tests for food allergies have turned up
negative for me.)
CBI - 24 May 2004 04:18 GMT
> It's been suggested to me here, in response to questions on a slightly
> different subject, that my coughing may be related to reflux.

In non-smokers 90-95% of chronic cough (over 3 weeks) is due
to asthma, sinus disease, or reflux - so it shouild always
be a concern.

>  I
> notice that many, but not all or even most, of my coughing
episodes
> occur shortly after eating.  My coughing episodes (you
know, not just
> casual coughing but rather a "productive" cough) are
things I've come
> to think of as beneficial because they clear my lungs,
even if they
> are somewhat taxing physically at times.  I also can
associate them
> with, e.g., bike rides and almost any other form of
exercise, so I
> know it's not just eating.  They often happen relatively
randomly as
> well.
>
> I'm not aware that I have a problem with gastric reflux - I do know
> that, since I started sleeping with a single, thin, pillow to help my
> sleep apnea, I have to be careful about eating right before bedtime,
> but other than that, I don't have heartburn or any other
symptoms I
> normally associate with reflux.

The symptoms when lying down suggest reflux or sinus
disease. Of course, it can be confusing because asthma tends
to be worse at night and dust mite allergies can also be at
play giving the appearance of the symptoms being from lying
when in reality they are more from the time of day or the
bed. The cough from reflux is usually dry wherear post nasal
drip will give a feeling of phlegm on the back of the
throat. Asthma often causes phlegm to be brought up fromt he
lungs. Of course, symptoms with eating sggest reflux while
symptoms with exertion suggest asthma.

The big kicker is that while it is pretty obvious that
people with asthma will more often than average also have
allergies, they also have more problems with reflux than
would be expected on chance alone so it is not at all
uncommon for people to have combinations of the three.

> Should I be tracking this more closely and/or talking about this with
> my doctor?

Sure. There are several tests that might help to figure it
out or you could just try some meds and see if they help.

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Meghan Noecker - 27 May 2004 10:32 GMT
>The big kicker is that while it is pretty obvious that
>people with asthma will more often than average also have
>allergies, they also have more problems with reflux than
>would be expected on chance alone so it is not at all
>uncommon for people to have combinations of the three.

I have all 3, and sometimes I really have to consider how it feels to
figure out which problem I am dealing with. Waking up in the middle of
the night, I am often too sleepy to figure out why I am coughing or
having trouble breathing. I may take an antacid when I really need to
use my inhaler. If it keeps up, I will end up trying everything
eventually, but it sure would be nice if my brain could process the
difference faster sometimes. I have also been known to dream I used my
inhaler instead of actually using it.

The only things i have mastered in my sleep are pulling myself into a
sitting position for breathing problems, and leaping to my feet for
coughing spasm (so that I have less in my throat to inhale, either
reflux or plain ol saliva). I have been known to inhale either, and
both are uncomfortable, but the reflux can burn for hours, once
inhaled. The saliva is done and over once I stop gargling it as I
breathe.

If I feel at risk for any of these, I simply sleep upright. Not as
comfy, but better than having problems. When I have a cold or bad
allergies, I always prop myself up to keep my throat clear. And once i
get past my bad hours, I can lay down again.

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Alison Chaiken - 24 May 2004 04:59 GMT
>It's been suggested to me here, in response to questions on a
>slightly different subject, that my coughing may be related to
>reflux.  I notice that many, but not all or even most, of my coughing
>episodes occur shortly after eating.

A lot of people cough and clear their throats after eating because
they haven't consumed enough fluids with their meal.  Most of these
folks have no asthma, allergies or reflux.  The tendency for
dehydration with meals seems to worsen with age -- I don't see kids
repeatedly clearing their throat after eating.  For me, dehydration is
a major cause of respiratory discomfort.  I often work in an
environment where I can't have any beverages, so I have to remember to
go out and get a drink.

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Lou Pecora - 24 May 2004 15:58 GMT
In article <x63c5qmq4w.fsf@capsicum.wsrcc.com>,
Alison Chaiken
<alison+gnus20040523T205508@dailyplanet.dontspam.wsrcc.com> wrote:

> A lot of people cough and clear their throats after eating because
> they haven't consumed enough fluids with their meal.  Most of these
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> environment where I can't have any beverages, so I have to remember to
> go out and get a drink.

So, Allison, they don't let scientists out for drinks where you are
either, huh?  :-)

-- Lou Pecora
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Helping Hand - 27 May 2004 13:02 GMT
Yeah you should mention it to your doctor especially if you just got
asthma as an adult. GERD is a major trigger of adult-onset asthma.
 
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