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Breathing techniques: A commonsense approach to asthma?

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Richard Friedel - 06 Apr 2004 09:57 GMT
For the treatment of asthma sympathomimetic drugs can be used to
emulate the effect of the sympathetic nervous system.  When stimulated
it opens up the lung airways, as can be seen from a medical textbook.

As clearly proved by the success of Oriental Martial Arts breathing on
the tanden (a point an inch or two below the navel) can have a strong
vitalizing effect. This is said to be due to stimulation of the
sympathetic nervous system.

The fact that descriptions of such breathing practices use unfamiliar
terminology (chi, prana or ki as meaning oxygen and life force) should
not deter people, because it is also a question of tuning the nervous
system, not just gas exchange.

One elementary method of generating the breath of fire as a path to
tanden breathing is bhastrika, breathing vigorously and quickly
through the nose with due emphasis on diaphragm action for about 30
secs.  Although it may well lead on to slow diaphragmatic breathing it
might well be unsuitable for the average asthmatic without preparatory
training because of the hyperventilation phase caused.  The method is
unsuitable for those suffering from high blood pressure. Bhastrika is
recommended for asthma by the yoga folks. Of course treatment and
instruction should only be sought from a responsible expert familiar
with the brittle nature of some asthma.

My personal experience of breathing with a concentration of "energy"
on the tanden is that it causes a natural, pleasant sensation with a
power over airway constriction and over vitality. Respectfully,
Richard Friedel
malixe - 07 Apr 2004 04:53 GMT
 I have recently been diagnosed with bronchitis and possible adult
onset asthma.   I'm actually hoping that some other diagnosis might be
feasible, but after doing a little research, I know I'm a good candidate
for adult onset asthma.

One symptom though, that my doctor seems to be ignoring is the fact that
I have recurring high fever in the 100 to 102 degree range.  He tried to
take my temperature the first time I saw him for this, but I promptly
coughed the thermometer across the room and he never tried again.

I don't find any reference to running high fevers during asthmatic
episodes, and from my days as an asthmatic youth (which I had hoped were
well behind me) I don't remember whether or not that was a standard symptom.

While I'm waiting for the return of my chest x-rays, can anyone offer
any advice, information or links to same?

thank you much,

Charlie
Helping Hand - 07 Apr 2004 13:22 GMT
Fever suppose to be the sign of bronchitis
not asthma or something else.  Did you ask him about what has been
causing the fever.  If you have.  You need to see a different doctor.
Good-luck with your treatment!  Don't sound like you got asthma yet.
This is how my began now I have asthma after a year of going through
bronchitis first.-H.
CBI - 07 Apr 2004 23:49 GMT
> I don't find any reference to running high fevers during asthmatic
> episodes, and from my days as an asthmatic youth (which I had hoped
> were well behind me) I don't remember whether or not that
was a
> standard symptom.
>
> While I'm waiting for the return of my chest x-rays, can anyone offer
> any advice, information or links to same?

Fever is not a symptom or asthma. It needs to be evaluated.

The one caveate is that sometimes atelectasis (small areas
of collapsed lung) that can come with poorly controlled
asthma and mucus plugging can cause a low grade fever but
not one of 102.

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FACE - 15 Apr 2004 23:18 GMT
>While I'm waiting for the return of my chest x-rays, can anyone offer
>any advice, information or links to same?

Total curiosity:

How much do you pay for a chest x-ray.  Not some insurance co-payment, I
mean how much does it actually cost.

Last one I had was completely clear...except for the thorocotomy scar
<G> but that's another story.  The cost was standard for the local
Promina radiological facility......$248.   Sheesh!!!!

FACE
Blues Ma - 26 Apr 2004 17:10 GMT
> ? I have recently been diagnosed with bronchitis and possible adult
> onset asthma.?? I'm actually hoping that some other diagnosis might be
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> Charlie

Kind of a late reply, but i've just found this group.
During the tree pollen season i occasionally run a temp of 101 without
any apparent infection present.
Allergist speculates the fever might be from temporary inflammation.
Usually?? -?? fever indicates infection.
Mine resolves on it's own, so i still don't know what triggers it.
Hope by now you know what caused yours.

Dorothy
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