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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / January 2004INCREASED IRON / asthma
>>snip<< These observations suggest that increased Fe and decreased Se concentrations in patients with childhood asthma may be responsible for the oxidant/antioxidant imbalance. >>snip<< Biol Trace Elem Res. 2004 Jan; 97(1): 31-42. Related Articles, Links Alterations in Plasma Essential Trace Elements Selenium, Manganese, Zinc, Copper, and Iron Concentrations and the Possible Role of these Elements on Oxidative Status in Patients with Childhood Asthma. Kocyigit A, Armutcu F, Gurel A, Ermis B. Department of Biochemistry, Medical Faculty, Harran University, Sanliurfa, Turkey. The aim of the present study is to evaluate the status of plasma essential trace element selenium (Se), manganese (Mn), copper (Cu), zinc (Zn), and iron (Fe) concentrations and the effect of these elements on oxidative status in patients with childhood asthma. Plasma Se, Mn, Cu, and Zn concentrations were determined by atomic absorption spectrophotometry (AAS) and Fe concentrations, malondialdehyde (MDA), and total antioxidant capacity (TAC) were determined by the colorimetric method. The plasma MDA/TAC ratio was calculated as an index of oxidative status. Plasma albumin levels were measured to determine nutritional status. Plasma Fe concentrations, MDA levels and the MDA/TAC ratio were significantly higher (p<0.001, p<0.001, and p<0.01, respectively) and Se and Mn concentrations and TAC were lower (p<0.01, p<0.05, and p<0.01, respectively) in patients when compared to the healthy subjects. Plasma Zn, Cu, and albumin levels were not found to be significantly different in patients and controls (p>0.05). There were positive relationships between plasma MDA and Fe (r=0.545, p<0.001) and TAC and Se (r= 0.485, p<0.021), and a negative correlation between TAC and MDA values (r= -0.337, p<0.031) in patients with childhood asthma. However, there was no correlation between these trace elements and albumin content in patient groups. These observations suggest that increased Fe and decreased Se concentrations in patients with childhood asthma may be responsible for the oxidant/antioxidant imbalance. PMID: 14742898 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Who loves ya. Tom  SignatureJesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking >>>snip<< >These observations suggest that increased Fe and decreased Se concentrations in >patients with childhood asthma may be responsible for the oxidant/antioxidant >imbalance. >>>snip<< Now - explain how this imbalance relates to the asthma in this article.. You have shown that you can quote somebody else's words - now lets see if you actually understood the article. -- "It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel. A group of people with money and weaponry have simply decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and want, eventally, to exterminate us." 'Christian Century' magazine >Subject: Re: INCREASED IRON / asthma >From: Colin Campbell activated_95b@earthlink.net(remove underscore) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >You have shown that you can quote somebody else's words - now lets see >if you actually understood the article. You've been TOLD repeatedly to STFU .. You have attempted to deride ANY information implicating elevated iron levels in the pathogenesis of asthma. The article states .. according to researchers .. iron to be ELEVATED IN ASTHMA .. And what do YOU .. have to say .. ? Attempted DERISION .. again .. You are REALLY some piece of work .. aren't ya .. You are a fkg disgrace you stupid POS .. NOW .. again ... S.. T .. F .. U .. Or better yet .. just .. F .. O .. you stupid fkg freak .. Dig .. ? >>snip<< These observations suggest that increased Fe and decreased Se concentrations in patients with childhood asthma may be responsible for the oxidant/antioxidant imbalance. >>snip<< Biol Trace Elem Res. 2004 Jan; 97(1): 31-42. Related Articles, Links Alterations in Plasma Essential Trace Elements Selenium, Manganese, Zinc, Copper, and Iron Concentrations and the Possible Role of these Elements on Oxidative Status in Patients with Childhood Asthma. Kocyigit A, Armutcu F, Gurel A, Ermis B. Department of Biochemistry, Medical Faculty, Harran University, Sanliurfa, Turkey. The aim of the present study is to evaluate the status of plasma essential trace element selenium (Se), manganese (Mn), copper (Cu), zinc (Zn), and iron (Fe) concentrations and the effect of these elements on oxidative status in patients with childhood asthma. Plasma Se, Mn, Cu, and Zn concentrations were determined by atomic absorption spectrophotometry (AAS) and Fe concentrations, malondialdehyde (MDA), and total antioxidant capacity (TAC) were determined by the colorimetric method. The plasma MDA/TAC ratio was calculated as an index of oxidative status. Plasma albumin levels were measured to determine nutritional status. Plasma Fe concentrations, MDA levels and the MDA/TAC ratio were significantly higher (p<0.001, p<0.001, and p<0.01, respectively) and Se and Mn concentrations and TAC were lower (p<0.01, p<0.05, and p<0.01, respectively) in patients when compared to the healthy subjects. Plasma Zn, Cu, and albumin levels were not found to be significantly different in patients and controls (p>0.05). There were positive relationships between plasma MDA and Fe (r=0.545, p<0.001) and TAC and Se (r= 0.485, p<0.021), and a negative correlation between TAC and MDA values (r= -0.337, p<0.031) in patients with childhood asthma. However, there was no correlation between these trace elements and albumin content in patient groups. These observations suggest that increased Fe and decreased Se concentrations in patients with childhood asthma may be responsible for the oxidant/antioxidant imbalance. PMID: 14742898 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Who loves ya. Tom SignatureJesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking >>Subject: Re: INCREASED IRON / asthma >>From: Colin Campbell activated_95b@earthlink.net(remove underscore) [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > >Dig .. ? I think he is starting to like you Colin... > >>Subject: Re: INCREASED IRON / asthma > >>From: Colin Campbell activated_95b@earthlink.net(remove underscore) [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > I think he is starting to like you Colin... Here are some of his credentials: http://www.mikeswebsite.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amfFAQ.html#trolls > > >And what do YOU .. have to say .. ? > > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > http://www.mikeswebsite.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amfFAQ.html#trolls :o)))))))) You (and especially the author of the site) seem to have done a little more research than I could be bothered to do. I KF-ed the guy months ago when checked out his trail on Google and decided that it was pointless to engage with him. I still wonder whatever happened to Joseph/Joetov and his "magic" seeds...... Pete > Here are some of his credentials: > > http://www.mikeswebsite.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/amfFAQ.html#trolls Sheldon, my humble and obsequious apologies. I had no idea that 'doe' wasn't you, and may in fact be a reptoid. Anyhow, his posts don't have the stamp of quality that characterise yours... > > Here are some of his credentials: > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > wasn't you, and may in fact be a reptoid. Anyhow, his posts don't have > the stamp of quality that characterise yours... Yes, shame on you! Whatever else, Sheldon has never led one to suspect that he was a successful brain-transplant donor! Pete >> > Here are some of his credentials: >> > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Pete Yes, I owe Sheldon a pint! > And what do YOU .. have to say .. ? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Dig .. ? Yeah, baby! Shag-a-delic! Eat that phonebook! > And what do YOU .. have to say .. ? > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Dig .. ? Err.. isn't 'Dig?' a bit old fashioned nowadays? A bit 'Abbie Hoffman'? Right, let's get to the point: are you a WRINKLY???? >> And what do YOU .. have to say .. ? >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Err.. isn't 'Dig?' a bit old fashioned nowadays? A bit 'Abbie Hoffman'? >Right, let's get to the point: are you a WRINKLY???? Pardon me, but I am yet again moved to choral refrain: "'Cause he's an OLD HIPPY, and he don't know what to do. Should he do as he is told, should he cop-out with FU. He's and OLD HIPPY; these iron posts are just a must. He ain't tryin' to change nobody, he's just tryin' real hard not to rust..." Any further questions? http://www.hippy.com/oldhippy10-05-00.htm Did you ever work for 'Rolling Stone', Bob? However, I suspect 'doe' may actually be a reptoid... (http://www.reptoids.com) >Did you ever work for 'Rolling Stone', Bob? Nope, but we are big shot swingers With opposable fingers And were loved everywhere we go (that sounds like us) We talk about wheezin' And we talk about "proof" And we eat less meat 'cuzz of "doe" (yeah, right!) We take all kinda pills Get rid of all kinda ills But the thrill some've never known Is the thrill that it gets ya When you get your kicks, uh, Throwin' the usenet trolls a bone... Chorus: Usenet trolls, Gonna see ironjustice go ballistic Trolls Gonna see Mary Kay sell aloe lipstick Trolls Gonna see my smiling face Throwin' the usenet trolls a bone... We got a freaky old geezer named Sheldon PENMART With a nasty case of tourette's ya know We got our good old grey-haired daddies, Doubting everything you "know." Now its all designed to blow our minds, But our minds wont really be blown Like the blow thatll getcha When you get your picture Doin' Sheldon's sort of yoga at home... Chorus We gotta llittle bug-eyed, vege-tailed reptoid, Who will rant at anything we say We got a genuine Deutschman guru Hes teaching us another way. We got all the meds that money can buy, So we never have to go it alone And we keep gettin sicker On the moonshine liquer That Bowman distills at home... Chorus Oh, we be smilin....beautiful! >However, I suspect 'doe' may actually be a reptoid... >(http://www.reptoids.com) Scaled back a bit, perhaps... > NOW .. again ... S.. T .. F .. U .. I'd just like to point out at this juncture, in anticpation of your next post, that it's spelt "ARSE", not "a.s". Aw, stop pretending sheldon, we know it's you really! >>You have shown that you can quote somebody else's words - now lets see >>if you actually understood the article. > >You've been TOLD repeatedly to STFU .. And I have never been given a valid reason why I should. >You have attempted to deride ANY information implicating elevated iron levels >in the pathogenesis of asthma. I have applied a level of scepticism to unfounded claims. >The article states .. according to researchers .. iron to be ELEVATED IN ASTHMA But is this a cause or an effect? Or even relevant? >You are a fkg disgrace you stupid POS .. > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >imbalance. >>>snip<< And if you had analyzed this paragraph there is no reason to believe that the concentrations affect anything other than the oxidant/antioxidant balance. Which strongly implies that this is an effect of the asthma. >Who loves ya. A comment strongly at odds with the invective you hurled at me above. -- "It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel. A group of people with money and weaponry have simply decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and want, eventally, to exterminate us." 'Christian Century' magazine |
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