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NasalGuard Overstock - Get Free Tube

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Charlie Moore - 20 Jan 2004 17:37 GMT
They just came out with newer packaging and have an overstock.. it's a great
time to try it.. for those who don't know, NasalGuard is a gel that prevents
you from inhaling allergens.. check it out.. http://www.nasalguard.com

>> So, here's the deal.

>> We're not going to charge for the tubes.  Just pay for the S&H ($4.95)
and
>> your NasalGuard tube is FREE!  That's right.  We eat the cost for the
>> tube.  There is no difference in the product, just the packaging.

>> Due to incredible demand previously encountered, we must limit one FREE
>> tube per household. However, you may purchase an additional tube at 50%
>> off the regular price for just $4.95!  And, pay no additional S&H!

>> This offer is only available online through our website.  Please hurry
and
>> take advantage of this offer, since supplies are limited and in great
>> demand!

>> To order now, simply click on the link below.

>> http://www.nasalguard.com/static/order_ooops.asp?promo=ooops

>> Thank you!

>> NasalGuard
>> info@nasalguard.com
>> www.nasalguard.com
Don Brady - 21 Jan 2004 01:15 GMT
>They just came out with newer packaging and have an overstock.. it's a great
>time to try it.. for those who don't know, NasalGuard is a gel that prevents
>you from inhaling allergens.. check it out.. http://www.nasalguard.com

Can you tell us more about your personal experiences with it?

Or are you posting on behalf of Nasalguard?
gumbo - 21 Jan 2004 19:17 GMT
>>They just came out with newer packaging and have an overstock.. it's a great
>>time to try it.. for those who don't know, NasalGuard is a gel that prevents
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>
> Or are you posting on behalf of Nasalguard?

I tried nasalguard last summer for hayfever, I found it to be just about
worthless; the company who sell it gave me my money back.

-- gumbo
Sherry Bane - 29 Jan 2004 19:04 GMT
This must be one huge tube to cost 4.95 to ship and handle - or is it $1
for postage and the actual tube is 1/2 oz so you aren't really getting
anything free????

Sherry
ARoberts - 30 Jan 2004 00:34 GMT
> This must be one huge tube to cost 4.95 to ship and handle - or is it $1
> for postage and the actual tube is 1/2 oz so you aren't really getting
> anything free????
>
> Sherry

You caught them.  It's an old trick--the product is "free" and "shipping and
handling" is exhorbitant. That's where they make the money.  You've probably
seen "free" software offers on TV.  A useless (usually outdated or
unpopular) bundle of software is offered for free, and shipping is far
beyond what it would normally cost (even if it were routed via Neptune).
Charlie Moore - 21 Jan 2004 23:14 GMT
> >They just came out with newer packaging and have an overstock.. it's a great
> >time to try it.. for those who don't know, NasalGuard is a gel that prevents
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>
> Or are you posting on behalf of Nasalguard?

I'm allergic to cats and dogs.. but it doesn't hit me right away..
just after a little bit.. I went to my friends place who have cats and
they told me to try it.. needless to say 1/2 into the stay I knew it
was working, cause otherwise I would have been tearing and sneezing..

Although I really don't suffer from allergies as much as some others,
I got a tube to use when I'm doing any home improvement projects or in
my basement, which has something.. mold or maybe it's my older couches
which start to make things bad if I stay down there too long... I've
been using every since on a needs only basis..
Don Brady - 22 Jan 2004 03:54 GMT
>I'm allergic to cats and dogs.. but it doesn't hit me right away..
>just after a little bit.. I went to my friends place who have cats and
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>which start to make things bad if I stay down there too long... I've
>been using every since on a needs only basis..

Well it certainly is a novel invention.
Their patent can be accessed in full at

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=5468488 :

"The present invention is directed to products for restricting the flow of
airborne contaminants into a nasal passage. More particularly, it is directed
to such a product which includes the ability to create an artificial
electrostatic field in an area close to, at, or within the nasal passage to
either repel or attract airborne contaminants, or both, to prevent such
contaminants from entering the nasal passage and body of a user."

Does anyone think this would have any prospect of actually working?

Of course the "overstock" and "free tube" are typical sales hype.  

Are you connected to the company?

"
Colin Campbell - 22 Jan 2004 16:52 GMT
>"The present invention is directed to products for restricting the flow of
>airborne contaminants into a nasal passage. More particularly, it is directed
>to such a product which includes the ability to create an artificial
>electrostatic field in an area close to, at, or within the nasal passage to
>either repel or attract airborne contaminants, or both, to prevent such
>contaminants from entering the nasal passage and body of a user."

I would like to know how this 'electrostatic' field' is created and
maintained.  IMO it is hard to believe that such a field can be
created and maintained inside the sinuses.

--
"It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the
Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel.
A group of people with money and weaponry have simply
decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and
want, eventally, to exterminate us."
'Christian Century' magazine
Don Brady - 23 Jan 2004 04:20 GMT
>I would like to know how this 'electrostatic' field' is created and
>maintained.  IMO it is hard to believe that such a field can be
>created and maintained inside the sinuses.

It;'s explained in the patent.

Isn't it amazing - it literally turns your nose into an electrostatic air
filter!
Colin Campbell - 23 Jan 2004 04:32 GMT
>>I would like to know how this 'electrostatic' field' is created and
>>maintained.  IMO it is hard to believe that such a field can be
>>created and maintained inside the sinuses.
>
>It;'s explained in the patent.

But does it actually work that way?

>Isn't it amazing - it literally turns your nose into an electrostatic air
>filter!

The problem is that these filters use differing electric potentials to
work.  How can you maintain differing electric potentials in an
environment as moist as a nose?

It is more 'implausible' than 'amazing.'

--
"It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the
Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel.
A group of people with money and weaponry have simply
decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and
want, eventally, to exterminate us."
'Christian Century' magazine
Charlie Moore - 24 Jan 2004 17:01 GMT
> >>I would like to know how this 'electrostatic' field' is created and
> >>maintained.  IMO it is hard to believe that such a field can be
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>
> It is more 'implausible' than 'amazing.'

there should be a clarification made.. the product is applied outside
of the nostrils and not necessarily inside the sinuses like a
nasalcrom or flonase..

the concept is not all that implausible...  most of your common
lotions and conditioners have an innate electrostat property..  I ran
across an article a while back on this.. I'll post if I can remeber
where it was..
ARoberts - 25 Jan 2004 15:10 GMT
> > >>I would like to know how this 'electrostatic' field' is created and
> > >>maintained.  IMO it is hard to believe that such a field can be
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> across an article a while back on this.. I'll post if I can remeber
> where it was..

You have it backwards.  Most lotions have an _anti_ static property.  They
allow dissipation of static charges.
Charlie Moore - 24 Jan 2004 16:54 GMT
> >I'm allergic to cats and dogs.. but it doesn't hit me right away..
> >just after a little bit.. I went to my friends place who have cats and
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>
> "

well I'm a mechanical engineer by trade and the concept seems simple
enough.. static cling for allergens I suppose..

I work in the pharma industry and since know people who know people
that are involved with the company..
Colin Campbell - 24 Jan 2004 18:11 GMT
>well I'm a mechanical engineer by trade and the concept seems simple
>enough.. static cling for allergens I suppose..

Then explain how these differing electric potentials are maintained.

--
"It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the
Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel.
A group of people with money and weaponry have simply
decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and
want, eventally, to exterminate us."
'Christian Century' magazine
ARoberts - 24 Jan 2004 18:39 GMT
> > >I'm allergic to cats and dogs.. but it doesn't hit me right away..
> > >just after a little bit.. I went to my friends place who have cats and
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> I work in the pharma industry and since know people who know people
> that are involved with the company..

Well, I'm an electrical engineer, and it seems implausable to me.  The
'static cling' occurs because some kinetic energy has been imparted that
displaced electrons.  A glob of some monolithic substance isn't going to
maintain a charge.  If that could occur, you would see models of
electrostatic air cleaners without power cords.  You don't.
knob - 25 Jan 2004 04:53 GMT
>>Don Brady <dbrady@pobox.com> wrote in message
>
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> maintain a charge.  If that could occur, you would see models of
> electrostatic air cleaners without power cords.  You don't.

There are many electrostatic air cleaners without power cords.
ARoberts - 25 Jan 2004 05:19 GMT
> >>Don Brady <dbrady@pobox.com> wrote in message
> >
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>
> There are many electrostatic air cleaners without power cords.

Then you are claiming that there are electrostatic cleaners with absolutely
no power source?  Post a link to one.
knob - 25 Jan 2004 05:35 GMT
>>>>Don Brady <dbrady@pobox.com> wrote in message
>>>
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> Then you are claiming that there are electrostatic cleaners with absolutely
> no power source?  Post a link to one.

This turned up with google.  There are loads of others.
I think 3M makes them too.

http://www.dustfree.com/filters/df95.htm
ARoberts - 25 Jan 2004 14:58 GMT
> >>>>Don Brady <dbrady@pobox.com> wrote in message
> >>>
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>
> http://www.dustfree.com/filters/df95.htm

Those are not electrostatic cleaners; they are electrostatic filters that
rely on being placed in a furnace (that has a power supply for its fan).
Again, we're back to the kinetic energy that I mentioned.  They work by
having air forced through them at high velocity, which displaces electrons
and creates static electricity.
knob - 25 Jan 2004 18:37 GMT
>>>>>>Don Brady <dbrady@pobox.com> wrote in message
>>>>>
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> having air forced through them at high velocity, which displaces electrons
> and creates static electricity.

Right... but that's how these nose filter work.  Air gets forced passed
them creating a charge.
ARoberts - 25 Jan 2004 19:27 GMT
> >>>>>>Don Brady <dbrady@pobox.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>
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> Right... but that's how these nose filter work.  Air gets forced passed
> them creating a charge.

So you really believe that the miniscule volume and velocity of air passing
by a bit of gel at the rim of the nose can generate enough potential to
attract particulates up to a few millimeters away within a moving air
stream? LOL.  Theory and practice are two different things.  Marketing
depends on the scientifically illiterate to not make that distinction.
knob - 25 Jan 2004 21:34 GMT
>>>>>>>>Don Brady <dbrady@pobox.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>
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> stream? LOL.  Theory and practice are two different things.  Marketing
> depends on the scientifically illiterate to not make that distinction.

No, I don't believe it a bit.  I was just arguing the theory.
ARoberts - 25 Jan 2004 21:53 GMT
> >>>>>>>>Don Brady <dbrady@pobox.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>>
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>
> No, I don't believe it a bit.  I was just arguing the theory.

Sounds like somthing that I'd do ;-)
Colin Campbell - 25 Jan 2004 17:34 GMT
>This turned up with google.  There are loads of others.
>I think 3M makes them too.

Do you know how this works?  

Besides - I am still waiting for a plausible explanation of how your
lotion can generate a static field.

--
"It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the
Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel.
A group of people with money and weaponry have simply
decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and
want, eventally, to exterminate us."
'Christian Century' magazine
knob - 25 Jan 2004 18:39 GMT
Air friction creates a charge on the surface of the filter.
I don't know anything about the gel.  I wasn't the orignator
of the thread.

>>This turned up with google.  There are loads of others.
>>I think 3M makes them too.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> want, eventally, to exterminate us."
> 'Christian Century' magazine
Don Brady - 25 Jan 2004 01:07 GMT
>well I'm a mechanical engineer by trade and the concept seems simple
>enough.. static cling for allergens I suppose..

Pure fantasy in all liklihood....

>I work in the pharma industry and since know people who know people
>that are involved with the company..

I figured...
Charlie Moore - 24 Jan 2004 16:55 GMT
> >I'm allergic to cats and dogs.. but it doesn't hit me right away..
> >just after a little bit.. I went to my friends place who have cats and
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>
> "

well I'm a mechanical engineer by trade and the concept seems simple
enough.. static cling for allergens I suppose..

I work in the pharma industry in NJ and know people who know people
that are involved with the company..
Leonidas Vassiliadis - 26 Jan 2004 06:34 GMT
Did anybody of the regulars here point out that the product works fine?
Colin Campbell - 26 Jan 2004 17:33 GMT
>Did anybody of the regulars here point out that the product works fine?

Does it?

--
"It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the
Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel.
A group of people with money and weaponry have simply
decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and
want, eventally, to exterminate us."
'Christian Century' magazine
ARoberts - 27 Jan 2004 00:54 GMT
> Did anybody of the regulars here point out that the product works fine?

Not a one.
Colin Campbell - 27 Jan 2004 02:07 GMT
>> Did anybody of the regulars here point out that the product works fine?
>
>Not a one.

And such a lack of support should be listened to.

--
"It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the
Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel.
A group of people with money and weaponry have simply
decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and
want, eventally, to exterminate us."
'Christian Century' magazine
Charlie Moore - 27 Jan 2004 22:37 GMT
> >> Did anybody of the regulars here point out that the product works fine?
> >
> >Not a one.
>
> And such a lack of support should be listened to.

Or not.. the product really hasn't been advertised heavily as far as I
know.. there are people out there who don't read these boards you
know..
ARoberts - 28 Jan 2004 01:28 GMT
> > >> Did anybody of the regulars here point out that the product works fine?
> > >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> know.. there are people out there who don't read these boards you
> know..

But the question that was asked was "Did anybody of the regulars here...".
and the answer was "no".

No doubt that being "advertised heavily" will increase sales, but certainly
not the validity of the specious claims.
Colin Campbell - 28 Jan 2004 02:17 GMT
>> >> Did anybody of the regulars here point out that the product works fine?
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>know.. there are people out there who don't read these boards you
>know..

My comment applied to the comment about how none of the 'regulars'
endorsed the product.

--
"It's not American foreign policy, or the plight of the
Palestinians, or America's longstanding support for Israel.
A group of people with money and weaponry have simply
decided that we, as a civilization, are unfit to live, and
want, eventally, to exterminate us."
'Christian Century' magazine
Charlie Moore - 28 Jan 2004 19:02 GMT
> >> >> Did anybody of the regulars here point out that the product works fine?
> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> My comment applied to the comment about how none of the 'regulars'
> endorsed the product.

right.. sorry, I jumped the gun :)
Reinert Korsnes - 21 Jan 2004 13:56 GMT
Can the level of humidity in the air affect its effectiveness?
                                                                               
I ask because I investigate around my invention
http://home.chello.no/~rkorsnes/nozzle , and
I wonder if this invention is a competitor.
                                                                               
I like competition and competitors :-)
                                                                               
reinert

> They just came out with newer packaging and have an overstock.. it's a
> great time to try it.. for those who don't know, NasalGuard is a gel that
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>>> info@nasalguard.com
>>> www.nasalguard.com
 
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