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skipping heart beat and GERD

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ruscular@internetcds.com - 16 Nov 2003 18:35 GMT
I had asthma trouble back in high school years during cross country
races and training. I had ocassional morning cough and running nose
thru out my life. After researching family history of allegries, My
mother and grandmother both have hiatel hernia, and allergies to
wheat, and milk. I came to find out that I was allergic to wheat,
milk, chocolate, and onions. I eliminated them from my diets and
manage to stop the morning running nose, However in the process I
realize that I had to do something because of the heartburn and sore
throats in the morning.

Im afraid most of the damage has already been done. I have had
heartburn for at least 10 years ,not realizing the serioness of the
condition.It was only after my heart beat kept skipping that I realize
that this was more intensive then I had thought. I thought everyone
gets heartburn and it was just a natural thing to have.

Anyway, I am on the path to better health, and eating lifestyles.
However there seem to be very little info of how the skipping of the
heart beat is connected to the gastric reflux disease. The doctor only
explain that there was a nerve in the sphinctor that triggers this. I
had a EKG done and was told that I have a very strong heart, and my
cholestrol level was very good. I also had a colonoscipy examination
and found only one polip.Given a clean bill of health regard to heart
and lower intestine. I lift weights, run about an hour almost
everyday, and teach TaiChi.

I have been on and off of heartburn medication 3X going back after the
inflicting returns. Including the skipping heart beat. I dont know if
the sphinctor of the upper or lower stomache, as when I have these
problems both the lower and upper tummy is in pain and I bloat up like
a pregnant yak. I was hoping that anyone could shed some light on
this, of the skipping heart beats.
Alan - 18 Nov 2003 13:47 GMT
> I had asthma trouble back in high school years during cross country
> races and training. I had ocassional morning cough and running nose
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> a pregnant yak. I was hoping that anyone could shed some light on
> this, of the skipping heart beats.

hi there
i am on various different asthma medicines and i also was noticing these
'skipped' beats
i would notice that my heart felt as if it went crazy for a beat or 2 and
then carried on as usual
i went straight to my doc who said the skipping beats were normal and not to
worry... he said i was perfect healthy and my heart was beating just fine so
i stopped worrying and the beats got few and few

the bottom line is dont worry really... if the doctor said your fine then
you got little to worry about and worrying will only make them happen more,
or at least thats what i have found

alan
ruscular@internetcds.com - 21 Nov 2003 09:09 GMT
The doctor said my heart is fine, but my heart beat skipping was dued
to a nerve that is attach to the sphinctor in the stomache. There used
to be a procedure of severing the nerve, but they dont do that anymore
because it was a warning sign that I have stomache disorder. So when I
exercise or strain myself in anyway my heart goes crazy. I have been
on medication for heart burn twice, first trial run with Zantac, and
now Aciphex. My asthma problem comes back everytime I have bloating in
the stomache.

There has been some correlation between asthma and GERD, the stomache
acid would rise up thru the esophugus and the vapor of the gas inflame
the lungs and lining of the esophugus. This also burn away the
sphinctor.

I have met one other person who had experience heart beat skipping
with GERD condition. What I want to know why it does this and what can
be done about it? If anyone went thru this situation. Is there a
medication for long term usage for GERD?

I have already resolve myself that I will be forever be sleeping on a
slanted bed.

I am not worried about the heart, as I said the doctor cleared me on
that and even added the fact that I have healthy cholestrol level and
a very strong beat of an athlete.

Is there a name for this kind of condition with the skipping heart
beat from an irritated sphinctor?

>hi there
>i am on various different asthma medicines and i also was noticing these
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>
>alan
Alison Chaiken - 22 Nov 2003 05:04 GMT
Have been reading more of the book _Life and Breath_ by Neil
Schachter.  I was surprised to see the author claim that gas stoves
cause the formation of free radicals that can irritate the lungs.  On
the one hand, like everybody else, I've been programmed by years of
claims that gas "burns clean" and "produces only CO2 as a byproduct."
On the other hand, air is mostly nitrogen and combustion should
produce some nitrogen oxides as well as CO2.  Has anyone ever read a
credible study about the amount of production of noxious nitrogen
compounds due to the burning of natural gas?  I'm considering using my
stove fan whenever I light a burner instead of just when the food is
smoking, but I'd like to see some real numbers.

On an unrelated topic, is the mechanism that produces inflammation in
the nose the same as that which produces inflammation in the lungs?
If so, it makes sense that the nose often gets stuffy before an asthma
problem, as the nose will get a higher dose first.  Once the patient
starts to breathe through the mouth, then the air will be unfiltered
and the dose in the lungs will go up more rapidly.  But sometimes
asthma attacks start without a stuffy nose, even in those who have
allergies.  Does this mean that the cause of the attack isn't an
inhaled substance?  Or do the nose and bronchial sensitivities likely
differ?

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Bob - 22 Nov 2003 14:54 GMT
> I'm considering using my
>stove fan whenever I light a burner instead of just when the food is
>smoking, but I'd like to see some real numbers.

The "numbers" depend on your local source of natural gas.  Maybe their
website has that specific information.

Good idea to vent any natural gas flame, due to CO (carbon monoxide),
which as you know is colorless and odorless, and (maybe a lesser known
fun fact) can be a major source of iron build-up in the body...  :)
Colin Campbell - 24 Nov 2003 01:44 GMT
>Have been reading more of the book _Life and Breath_ by Neil
>Schachter.  I was surprised to see the author claim that gas stoves
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>stove fan whenever I light a burner instead of just when the food is
>smoking, but I'd like to see some real numbers.

You won't get enough nitrous oxides to cause problems because a
natural gas flame is not hot enough to cause nitrogen to react with
oxygen.

>On an unrelated topic, is the mechanism that produces inflammation in
>the nose the same as that which produces inflammation in the lungs?

Generally speaking, yes.

>If so, it makes sense that the nose often gets stuffy before an asthma
>problem, as the nose will get a higher dose first.  Once the patient
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>inhaled substance?  Or do the nose and bronchial sensitivities likely
>differ?

Yes and no.  Generally the nose gets exposed fractions of a second
before the lungs.  (has to do with the size particles that are
filtered by the various mechanisms in the airways.  (And what
percentage actually gets filtered.

Your nose does not meet HEPA standards. :-)

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