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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / May 2008Iron Restriction For Health
"Restriction of iron may have positive effects on health in general and aging in particular" Galaris D, Mantzaris M, Amorgianiotis C Oxidative stress and aging: the potential role of iron. [Journal Article] Hormones (Athens) 2008 Apr-Jun; 7(2):114-22. According to the free radical theory of aging proposed by Denham Harman more than 50 years ago, oxidatively modified cellular components accumulate continuously in the cells during the organism's lifespan leading to progressive decline of cellular functions. Since then, it has been shown that proteins, lipids, nucleic acids and other cell components undergo reversible and/or irreversible oxidative modifications during aging. Moreover, oxidized cell components can undergo further oxidative modifications leading to formation of products that cell degradation systems are incapable of removing. Accumulation of such non-degradable aggregates further inhibits the functionality of degradation systems, thus aggravating the effects and leading to a vicious cycle. In this presentation, we propose that the availability of intracellular iron in its redox active form (labile iron) represents the main catalyst that mediates extensive oxidative modifications of cellular components and ultimately leads to their accumulation and consequent cellular dysfunction. It is tempting to speculate that regulated restriction of labile iron may have positive effects on health in general and aging in particular. Hormones (Athens, Greece) [Hormones (Athens)] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk so why do most doctors recommend most women and children get allot of it still?  Signaturethe goal when communicating is to rationzlize existence with truth and facts and what is right coupled with getting what we desire (which might not always be what is right) Facts are often hidden so rich control options Sometimes feelings are not accurate and sometimes they are. Lets learn to do better based on truth, honesty and facts and the desire to do good "Restriction of iron may have positive effects on health in general and aging in particular" Galaris D, Mantzaris M, Amorgianiotis C Oxidative stress and aging: the potential role of iron. [Journal Article] Hormones (Athens) 2008 Apr-Jun; 7(2):114-22. According to the free radical theory of aging proposed by Denham Harman more than 50 years ago, oxidatively modified cellular components accumulate continuously in the cells during the organism's lifespan leading to progressive decline of cellular functions. Since then, it has been shown that proteins, lipids, nucleic acids and other cell components undergo reversible and/or irreversible oxidative modifications during aging. Moreover, oxidized cell components can undergo further oxidative modifications leading to formation of products that cell degradation systems are incapable of removing. Accumulation of such non-degradable aggregates further inhibits the functionality of degradation systems, thus aggravating the effects and leading to a vicious cycle. In this presentation, we propose that the availability of intracellular iron in its redox active form (labile iron) represents the main catalyst that mediates extensive oxidative modifications of cellular components and ultimately leads to their accumulation and consequent cellular dysfunction. It is tempting to speculate that regulated restriction of labile iron may have positive effects on health in general and aging in particular. Hormones (Athens, Greece) [Hormones (Athens)] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk so why do most doctors recommend most women and children get allot of it still? << They get off on killing people. There is no other explanation. Oh ..forgot ..stupidity .. You can't .. account for it .. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > -- > the goal when communicating is to rationzlize existence with truth and [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > so why do most doctors recommend most women and children get allot > of it > still? << Because women are prone to Iron deficiency and children need it for healthy growth. Iron deficiency has issues as well..... neuralgia, vertigo, fatigue, low body temperature, arrhythmia, impaired growth, lowered IQ, eye inflammation and frequent infections, just to name a few. Everything in life needs to be in balance. On May 17, 7:48 pm, "mcs" <mcsantpollut...@yahoo.com> wrote: so why do most doctors recommend most women and children get allot of it still? Because women are prone to Iron deficiency and children need it for healthy growth. << Women are bleeding to death are they ..? They don't eat .. ? What would in your mind using logic and reason would make almost all OF our women low in iron .. ? The marker they have accepted / use to assess .. "the right number of red blood cells" is set too high? That would do it. Evidenced by the fact "anemic" mothers deliver healthy babies at a much higher rate than women whose hemoglobins are higher. Can't distinguish that it is NOT iron deficiency? That would do it. Evidenced by giving iron to malaria and Aids stricken people and thereby killing them. Soooo .. the reason they give iron to all our women and children and fortify our foods with it is out of sheer .. stupidity NOT .. ignorance. Stupid in the sense they are supposed to know this sort of stuff ..medical ..science.. logic .. reason ..kind of stuff. They are supposed to be able to 'figure it out in their heads' .. sort of stuff. And they have failed to do this. Making them .. stupid. Imho .. THAT is what stupid defined .. is .. ? As it .. does .. ? What in your mind would make all these well fed women "iron deficient" .. at such a HIGH rate ..let me remind you ..? 85% of young Nordic women .. ? And then compare it to all those people who have no food / very little food .. who ain't anywhere near .. dead. The kids .. all the kids aren't eating .. food ..? They aren't .. breathing ..? If you starve someone they will begin to look like they are iron deficient .. Did you know that .. ? Iron is found in the air you breathe .. You'll have a hard time not finding iron .. if you breathe .. You must eat though .. EVERY food you eat has iron in it .. Iron is the very basis of all life. Africans are getting it through the soles in their feet. On May 18, 6:59 am, Gail <gail_m_al...@hotmail.com> wrote:Iron deficiency has issues as well..... neuralgia, vertigo, fatigue, low body temperature, arrhythmia, impaired growth, lowered IQ, eye inflammation and frequent infections, just to name a few. << Show me these studies .. Point to me where these people are not deficient in alot more than .. iron. The people you refer to .. to a man .. were **malnourished** .. and starvation .. affects your body. Vitamin D deficiency causes neuralgia, vertigo , fatigue , low thyroid , heart flutters , brain damage .. etc .. You are BORN with seven months worth of stored iron and you will never LOSE that seven months worth of stored iron. The best you can do is about two months of starvation and then you .. die. Don't forget not to breathe during that time .. or it will throw your calculations .. your thorough thoughtout thought provoking logical .. and .. reasonable .. ? .. conclusions .. askew. On May 18, 6:59 am, Gail <gail_m_al...@hotmail.com> wrote:Everything in life needs to be in balance. << Iron from meat is not easily controlled. Iron from plants and all other sources are controlled. Iron from meat binds to other iron and causes it too to be not easily controlled. The iron from meat builds continuously collectively consecutively the more meat you eat the HIGHER the **levels** / stores of iron **become** at a FASTER rate. NOT .. stopped .. slower .. slow ..fast..faster .. NEVER .. **stopped** unless .. ? One eats only plants. The body has NO **effective** method to excrete this iron once it is absorbed. It normally would not be absorbed. This buildup of iron is called age-related iron accumulation. Iron restriction has been shown to be useful in ageing. Coincidentally coinciding conclusively with .. ?.. age - related - iron - accumulation. So in conclusion .. gail .. I believe you and everyone who believes LIKE you .. have it all wrong. But just in case .. lets count the db's .. together .. ? Hey look a dead kid. I wonder what or maybe WHO killed him. Stupid .. people .. ? "Everyone in the world needs iron filings in their food" Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk On May 18, 10:45 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:"Everyone in the world needs iron filings in their food" << Speaking of the argument of whether this is actually ..iron filings. I was speaking to a guy about this and he says .. "I used to do that" .. "I used to sit there and scoop iron into the flour. It looks like tiny little iron filings on the magnet" .. He had really bad arthritis .. Not that his scooping had anything to do with it .. Unless he .. breathed it .. in .. of course. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > On May 17, 7:48 pm, "mcs" <mcsantpollut...@yahoo.com> wrote: > so why do most doctors recommend most women and children get allot [quoted text clipped - 137 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk Ok I believe in conspiracies with particulate pollutionand the threshold is defaulted way too high to maximize or even keep people in same health . Can I now assume they would go out of their way to poison people too. Iron justice who gains besides docs if they poison women and children with too much iron? With pollution its more then doctors its pharmacies and its our need for energy Why is there a need to poison women and kids I am not saying your right or wrong, I am trying to understand who would gain by touting not only the wrong things but one that might destroy people? -- On May 18, 1:25 pm, "mcs" <mcsantpollut...@yahoo.com> wrote:I am trying to understand who would gain by touting not only the wrong things but one that might destroy people? << Pharmaceutical companies or the medical profession or zero-population proponents or animal rights activists. Those are a few. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > Ok I believe in conspiracies with particulate pollutionand the threshold is > defaulted way too high to maximize or even keep people in same health . [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > gain by touting not only the wrong things but one that might destroy people? > -- On May 18, 4:24 pm, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:I am trying to understand who would gain by touting not only the wrong things but one that might destroy people? << Some of the Jews .. You don't want to hear my theory .. Maybe you do. This is the theory. The Jewish were given the word and knew the word and were to keep the word **safe**. Vegetarian / no killing / ahimsa .. the perfect world. There were those who refused to be vegetarian becoming then according to the Jewish teaching as being totally without ANY redeeming qualities at all. Avoid them killers at all costs. Some Jewish finally came to the conclusion it was a lost cause with these .. people . "If you can call them people." Now if you know THIS / the return to the 'perfect world' IS vegetarian and the other way leads to disease you have really only a few choices. Profit by this or attempt to PROVE it / save your brothers at all costs / 300 sht? Someone somewhere is putting so much iron in our food and it is becoming so obvious it is killing us we should simply stumble across the fact man is a herbivore? Either they think we are all collectively really stupid .. really stupid .. or .. ? Do they HOPE we ain't that stupid and WILL notice the iron AND then notice the fact man IS a herbivore IE - age-related-iron- accumulation ? Somewhere there are people adding iron to our food . Hoping we recognize this iron? Trying to prove man is a herbivore in order to return the world to what it was in the beginning? A world full of non-violence. And those guys are Jewish. I prefer THAT theory to the theory of "someone is conspiring to kill us" . Conspiracy theories make you look .. crazy. The fact nobody seems to notice the iron is kinda throwing the "well laid plans" .. off .. though .. No accounting for .. stupidity. Who loves ya. Tom Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://tinyurl.com/2r2nkh Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3 DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk > On May 18, 1:25 pm, "mcs" <mcsantpollut...@yahoo.com> wrote:I am > trying to understand who would gain by touting not only the wrong [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Have you ever had a blood test to check your own iron levels, maybe yours are too high.But I can tell you from experience that there are a lot of ill-health symptoms being experienced consistently when a blood test shows low iron levels in the body. There are a some of ways to reduce your iron load - constant exercise, regular blood donation, supplement with a lot of zinc and calcium, and avoid alcohol and vitamin C, Gail. > I am not saying your right or wrong, I am trying to understand who would > gain by touting not only the wrong things but one that might destroy people? I would say he's wrong, and quite consistently as well, take a look back through the archives at some his hare-brained posts. Bear Pay no attention to the Iron Maiden. He has been trying to take over this group, and spamming us with his iron diatribe for about 8 years. He's as hard to get rid of as fleas on a dog. It's better just to ignore his posts and move on. > On May 17, 7:48 pm, "mcs" <mcsantpollut...@yahoo.com> wrote: > so why do most doctors recommend most women and children get allot > of it > still? << Because women are prone to Iron deficiency and children need it for healthy growth. Iron deficiency has issues as well..... neuralgia, vertigo, fatigue, low body temperature, arrhythmia, impaired growth, lowered IQ, eye inflammation and frequent infections, just to name a few. Everything in life needs to be in balance. Looks like the Iron Maiden is back in a new guise. Good bye, Tom. See ya in the funny papers. > so why do most doctors recommend most women and children get allot of it > still? [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk |
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