It seems like if they did comparisons between peoples health based on the
> type of pollution their cities get and everything else was the same like
> diet, the people who consistently get moderate or worse (not
> good)pollution are in worse health for any number of categories.Obviously
> the ratings epa use is not adequate or worse blindly harming people by
> making people feel moderate is not dangerous when in fact it VERY well may
> be causing people to lose their health faster. The conspiracy to allow
> this to go on without adequately warning people or diminishing the threat,
> or showing such studies, or allowing harmed people to sue epa or polluters
> shows that a, there are millions of people that are not protected from the
> dangers of pollution in America, b, that the measures to reduce pollution
> are not matched by the extent of the damage relevant to potential danger,
> thus making the policy to lower pollution useless in some areas, and c,
> and those unprotected people not only usually lose their health faster in
> any number of categories of ailments, but they then have to pay for
> conditions that basically they are not responsible for getting and usually
> they can't sue . The media calls all this basically global warming and
> energy reduction instead of the conspiracy to not allow rules to do more
> faster to protect them equally like others that don't get this pollution
> are protected. Why don't the media do more? Because they are eagerly
> taking the money from the companies and pharmacies that treat you after
> people are poisoned, like from cancer clinics and heart hospitals and old
> age homes, and pharmaceuticals especially for asthma and nebulizers and
> power chairs. Its almost surreal to listen to the lies the news casters
> call beautiful days of good air.Yes sometimes they say gorgeous and good
> air when the particulate rates are approaching warning level. This is the
> lies and protection that begets big money while politicians remain silent.
>> Ever see a reporter ask Bush why he is not concerned about rules that
>> make
>> polluters and energy earn more money while many people suffer and are not
>> allowed to sue or can't move? Ever see a reporter ask Bush if we could
>> see a penny fon the
>> ground rom space in the 1960s how we can't defeat or track a group of
>> terrorists who don't have planes or coordinated communication system?
>> Ever see a reporter ask if we are worried about terrorists why do we
>> allow
>> so many people from terrorist countries into this country?
>> Discrimination
>> is not
>> good, but when only those people are a threat to blow up people enmass,
>> and constantly conspire to try, one
>> might ask why millions or close are allowed to come over and then worry
>> afterwards of the potential danger?
>> You think there are no conspiracies? Yahoo took the message boards off
>> because too much free information , that which we tell other countries to
>> have is not really prudent. I was on a blog about my city and when I
>> talked
>> about pollution I was off.. There goes the hypocrisy of freedom.of
>> speech.
>> You think reporters would talk about pollution, the descrepency between
>> rich
>> and poor, the tens of thousands who are murdered and nothing much is ever
>> done about it or why its never a coordinated effort to do more about yet
>> we
>> criticize those countries that have people killing each other there?
>> You don't believe in conspiracies ?
>> Since I lost my health to pollution, I had my real estate taxes go up,
>> had
>> my
>> taxes reviewed by Irs and made to pay money although we are apealling,
>> and
>> pay more money to treat conditions that are not my fault without any free
>> press to go over why?
>> You don't believe in conspiracies in the US are you sure?
>> Incidentally in case you were not aware,, yahoo often knew what you were
>> writing before you even sent it and could adequately block it if it went
>> against govt or own rules for whatever the hell reason!!!!! Thats how
>> advanced intelligence is now but I am sure your not going to believe
>> that...
>>
>>In case you need proof pollution harms get statiscians backed up by other
>>professional the comparisons of health and lung function and even stress
>>test levels between people having to breathe pollution and those that
>>don't. I have and so often the differences are ignored and families are
>>allowing toxic levels into their life because they foolishly believe gov
>>will and are protecting them and they are not. There are many links
>>between
>>pollution and harm and some places are getting much more of this toxic
>>mess
>>then others and nothing is being told to the people or nothing more is
>>being done to diminish it in those areas. Shameful!
TRN - 22 Jul 2007 04:40 GMT
Bush EPA chief says she quit after Cheney rewrote coal power plant rules --
"RawStory.com, Washington Post"
Bush EPA chief says she quit after Cheney rewrote coal power plant rules
John Byrne June 27, 2007
Christine Todd Whitman is the media darling of talk shows, the conservative
former governor of New Jersey and head of President George W. Bush's
Environmental Protection Agency who quit the Bush Administration to "spend
more time with her family."
Evidently, that's not true.
In a groundbreaking article today by the Washington Post, [
http://www.blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney ] the paper alleges that Whitman
left the Administration because they pressured her to accept pro-industry
coal power plant rules which threatened ghoulish levels of air pollution.
After industry officials complained to Vice President Cheney about
Clinton-era rules requiring plants to update their technology when they
conducted routine maintenance to comply with air quality standards, Cheney
turned to Whitman, she said.
Whitman told the Post she'd "been stunned by what she viewed as an
unquestioned belief that EPA's regulations were primarily to blame for
keeping companies from building new power plants."
"I was upset, mad, offended that there seemed to be so much head-nodding
around the table," she said. She said she had to fight "tooth and nail" to
keep Cheney from turning over the rewriting of the rules to the Energy
Department.
Whitman says she wanted a return to Bush's "Clear Skies" initiative, but
that went nowhere.
Whitman brought two folders to show President Bush. The first was 2 1/2
inches thick, detailing the dangers of raising legal levels of arsenic in
drinking water -- another Administration proposal. She pointed to a folder
she'd brought "four or five times as thick."
"If you think arsenic was bad," she recalled telling Bush, "look at what has
already been written about this."
Nothing changed. After the EPA rewrote the coal power plant standards, the
White House essentially rewrote the rules to favor industry. Whitman said
she'd had enough.
"I just couldn't sign it," she told the Post. "The president has a right to
have an administrator who could defend it, and I just couldn't."
Soon thereafter, a federal appeals court found that the rule change violated
the Clean Air Act -- according to the paper, the judges said the
administration had redefined the law in a way that could be valid "only in a
Humpty-Dumpty world."
> It seems like if they did comparisons between peoples health based on the
> > type of pollution their cities get and everything else was the same like
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> >>then others and nothing is being told to the people or nothing more is
> >>being done to diminish it in those areas. Shameful!
aroberts - 22 Jul 2007 18:50 GMT
> Bush EPA chief says she quit after Cheney rewrote coal power plant
> rules --
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> In a groundbreaking article today by the Washington Post, [
> http://www.blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney ] the paper alleges that Whitman
The above appears to be a dead link, so here is another:
http://tinyurl.com/2qgrjg
TRN - 22 Jul 2007 22:07 GMT
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney/chapters/leaving_no_tracks/index.html
I really don't know that I have any problem at this point with Libby being
let off the hook. Except he chose to work for them.
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> > Bush EPA chief says she quit after Cheney rewrote coal power plant
> > rules --
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> The above appears to be a dead link, so here is another:
> http://tinyurl.com/2qgrjg