Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us
Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network
Home
Discussion Groups
General
GeneralCardiologyVisionDentistryPharmacyLaboratoryNutritionAlternative
Diseases and Disorders
AIDSAlzheimer'sArthritisAsthmaCancerBreast CancerDiabetesEpilepsyGlaucomaHepatitisHerpesLupusProstate BPHProstate CancerProstatitisSinusitisTinnitus

Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / November 2003

Tip: Looking for answers? Try searching our database.

Iron / accumulated with time

Thread view: 
Enable EMail Alerts  Start New Thread
Thread rating: 
doe - 31 Oct 2003 15:29 GMT
Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2003 Oct;189(4):958-62.  Links

The role of fetal breathing motions compared with gasping motions in pulmonary
airway uptake of intra-amniotic iron dextran.

Pollack JA, Moise KJ Jr, Tyson WR, Galan HL.

Division of Obstetrics, Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology, University of
Colorado Health Sciences Center. USA.

OBJECTIVE: We hypothesized that normal fetal breathing, not acute asphyxial
gasping, results in the movement of iron dextran from the amniotic cavity into
the fetal lungs. In addition, the amount of iron dextran moving into the fetal
lungs is cumulative with time.Study design Twelve pregnant New Zealand White
rabbits at 25 days of gestation were sedated and underwent ultrasound-guided
injections of iron dextran into the amniotic cavities of the rabbit fetuses in
both horns of each pregnant doe. Oxygen saturation was maintained at >90% in
the pregnant does. The 12 does were then equally assigned to four groups on the
basis of the duration of fetal exposure to the dextran (0, 8, 16, and 24
hours). At the end of each time point, one half of the fetuses received an
intracardiac injection of potassium chloride to induce gasping just before
necropsy. Gasping was confirmed by ultrasound scanning. At necropsy, the fetal
lungs were evaluated grossly and underwent histomorphometry for iron
distribution and quantification in the fetal airways. RESULTS: In the animals
that received iron dextran, there was no significant difference in iron
accumulation at any time point between those animals that did and did not
receive potassium chloride, which suggests that acute gasping does not increase
the accumulation of amniotic fluid substances in the lungs. The amount of iron
in the fetal airways increased significantly with progressive length of
exposure. CONCLUSION: We conclude that normal fetal breathing, not acute
asphyxial gasping, resulted in the movement of intra-amniotic iron dextran into
the fetal lungs and that the amount of substances that move into the fetal
lungs accumulated with time.

PMID: 14586334 [PubMed - in process]

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
------

Who loves ya.
Tom
Signature

Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

Colin Campbell - 31 Oct 2003 17:15 GMT
>Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2003 Oct;189(4):958-62.  Links
>
>The role of fetal breathing motions compared with gasping motions in pulmonary
>airway uptake of intra-amniotic iron dextran.

Has nothing to do with asthma.  The only thing you are convincing us
of is that you are a loon.

--
There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
Richard Friedel - 01 Nov 2003 09:38 GMT
>>Am J Obstet Gynecol. 2003 Oct;189(4):958-62.  Links
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Has nothing to do with asthma.  The only thing you are convincing us
> of is that you are a loon.

I'll second that.  Your scheme for picking on excess iron as a cause of
asthma makes about as much sense picking shares with the letters a s t
(for asthma) in them and then buying as much possible and nothing else.
I'll be glad to give you the address of a broker friend of mine so that
we can get down to business.

> --
> There can be no triumph without loss.
> No victory without suffering.
> No freedom without sacrifice.
doe - 01 Nov 2003 22:50 GMT
>Subject: Re: Iron / accumulated with time
>From: Richard Friedel s3e0101@mailin.lrz-muenchen.de
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>I'll second that.  Your scheme for picking on excess iron as a cause of
>asthma makes about as much sense picking shares with the letters a s t

Sense .. ?
You use the word as if you have a handle on it ..
You don't ..

So don't use it ..

Makes you look .. stupid ..

>(for asthma) in them and then buying as much possible and nothing else.
>I'll be glad to give you the address of a broker friend of mine so that
>we can get down to business.

I suppose that would be from YOUR address book ..?

The one that carries the names of your doctors .. ?

Seeing the list you are on and how long you've been on it .. and seeing you
STILL have asthma .. I believe I will let you KEEP your stock brokers' ..
address ..

Wouldn't need any more black Mondays'..

Who loves ya.
Tom

Signature

Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

Richard Friedel - 02 Nov 2003 07:59 GMT
>>Subject: Re: Iron / accumulated with time
>>From: Richard Friedel s3e0101@mailin.lrz-muenchen.de

>>I'll second that.  Your scheme for picking on excess iron as a cause of
>>asthma makes about as much sense picking shares with the letters a s t
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I suppose that would be from YOUR address book ..?

> The one that carries the names of your doctors .. ?

There's really no call to start sneering and being cynical.

I do happen to know of a  hedge investment company (Astra Hedge, Inc) in
Bermuda which can guarantee 5.5% monthly interest.

So please send me $100,000 and you will get the capital plus interest
back in six months. My brokerage fee is only 0.1%.  Then we can get onto
a doc who is interested in investing in new cures.  All for now, Richard
Friedel
doe - 01 Nov 2003 22:47 GMT
>Subject: Re: Iron / accumulated with time
>From: Colin Campbell activated_95b@earthlink.net(remove underscore)
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>Has nothing to do with asthma.

That is very good ..

Do you have any other comments .. ?

Does it have anything to do with the lung .. ?

Does the lung have anything to do with asthma .. ?

YOU don't think so .. but the lung IS involved with asthma ..

So .. maybe you should just FO with your friggin stupidity ..

Stupidity is a commodity which is very common and therefore of no use on this
ng ..

Dig .. ?

> The only thing you are convincing us
>of is that you are a loon.

Is this sort of like your multiple personalities taking a .. vote .. ?

Hit it .

Who loves ya.
Tom
Signature

Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
Man Is A Herbivore! http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/manisaherbivore
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://pages.ivillage.com/ironjustice/deadpeoplewalking

Colin Campbell - 02 Nov 2003 02:22 GMT
>That is very good ..
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>YOU don't think so .. but the lung IS involved with asthma ..

Note the flawed logic here.  You have just made the conclusion that I
"think" that lungs have nothing to do with asthma based on nothing
than my noting that the study you reference has nothing to do with
asthma.

Basically you are assuming a causative relationship where none has
been demonstrated to exist.

--
There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
 
Sign In
Join
My Latest Posts
My Monitored Threads
My Blog
My Photo Gallery
My Profile
My Homepage

Start New Thread
Enable EMail Alerts
Rate this Thread



©2009 Advenet LLC   Privacy Policy - Terms of Use
This website includes both content owned or controlled by Advenet as well as content owned or controlled by third parties.