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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Asthma / May 2007The largest conspiracy to murder worse then terrorists
..I am not sure > if the effects from pollution affect the most sensitive first or if its > the added co2 ( poison) in the air but I can put a finger on what is most > damaging and why to some people and still it goes on today without a way > to protect people. Their life lived , while paying soooo much to be > poisoned and killed from cancers and respiratory disease directly result > from particulate > pollution ( diesel , coal and industry soot and pollution) and smoking > ..I am not sure >> if the effects from pollution affect the most sensitive first or if its >> the added co2 ( poison) in the air There is no evidence of increased CO2. Air consists of about .04% CO2. Man exhales more CO2 than is produced through pollutants. I know that once particulate pollution reaches moderate all hell breaks out. I have seen it over and over and to the extent any tests would verify my accusastions, I think its done deal to prove in court. More important , because to wait for that is not the most important link is to get the hell out of harms way if humanely possible. I saw an add for childhood asthma and they talked about dust mites but no mention of particulate pollution. Amazing.. absolutely amazing and I bet my life that can be proved much more unhealthy for children in terms of how many babies affected and the severity of the condition then worrying about dust mites. I am not saying dust mites are not important but when compared to particulate pollution which is virtually never done, its importance is small. I want to know why particulate pollution is not resounding thru neighborhoods and cities which get it. This is the reason they die faster and its preventable if there was no conspiracy to not tell people >> ..I am not sure >>> if the effects from pollution affect the most sensitive first or if its >>> the added co2 ( poison) in the air > > There is no evidence of increased CO2. Air consists of about .04% CO2. > Man exhales more CO2 than is produced through pollutants. > I saw an add for childhood asthma and they talked about dust mites but no > mention of particulate pollution. Probably an ad for some product or service to get rid of dust mites. Your point? I see discussions routingly here in AZ with regards to particulates. All you need to do is become aware of what your state government, legislature and local offices are discussing with regards to policy changes. My guess is you have no clue what has been going on in your states government. They very well maybe doing more than you think to cut particulates. You just don't spend the time to educate yourself. was there and is there a conspiracy to keep the consequences of MODERATE >> amounts particulate pollution from the people especially in my area but I >> am sure in many areas also? Many people do not know why they need their [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > pollution ( diesel , coal and industry soot and pollution) is the biggest > conspiracy in the US today kept from most people.. > This is the missing link,, comparisons could be had,, definitions of types > of pollution and who is responsible can be had... > know that once particulate pollution reaches moderate all hell breaks out. I have seen it over and over and to the extent any tests would verify my accusastions, I think its done deal to prove in court. More importantly, because to wait for courts or politicians to care or for more proof if ever, is not the most important link, what is , is to get the hell out of harms way if humanely possible.People must know what I am saying no one else is much saying. not to stay where particulate pollution reaches mild at least 130 days a year or close to 1/3 of the time. Every conceivable link I have found with true stats would show the horrible consequences over time from people living in this untold poisoning and killing field compared to people who didn't. It does though in a way provide jobs and for the energy companies to produce energy at the expense though of people who thru no fault of their own can't protect themselves.. I cited parts of the constitution which says people should be protected from undue harm yet they are still to this moment no universal standards to get people out of harms way. I saw an add for childhood asthma and they talked about dust mites but no mention of particulate pollution. Amazing.. absolutely amazing and I bet my life that can be proved much more unhealthy for children in terms of how many babies affected and the severity of the condition and consequences then worrying about dust mites. I am not saying dust mites are not important but when compared to particulate pollution which is virtually never done, its importance is small. I want to know why particulate pollution is not resounding thru neighborhoods and cities which get it., I want to know how people who live in these places don't want to know how much worse their chances for survival in good health are when they breathe air that turns my furnance filter black in 26 days and causes more asthma then 400,000 other cities around the country. Is there a magic way to ignore that? This is the reason they die faster and its preventable if there was no conspiracy to not tell people as for all the people who complain about me and read here anyway, why am I surprised? No team in Philly is winning much in sports, and not many athletes do well in other areas in moderate or worse pollution let alone if people were objectevitely told of their horrid health facts when compared to people who didn't get it. In my area, virtually silent about the pollution we get most often,,, and our violent crime is horrible, our politicians are often on the take. our citizens are often mean spirited and no one can prove anything i said is not true. Incidentally how many could have predicted the Supreme Court thinks more action is needed to protect people from pollution? After all if all I said was lame why all the commotion with lung centers and unemployment and violence here? If people in denial here is any indication, this is why it takes so long for good things to happen in our air. In the meantime.. enjoy the air that turns air filters black in 25 days. I know you will , in addition with some other happy things going for people here. Doesn't Karen sound happy? I lived in the US at a time when one third of my life my body shuts down and I have to grasp for breath.. They call this freedom .... know that once particulate pollution reaches moderate all hell breaks out. I have seen it over and over and to the extent any tests would verify my accusastions, I think its done deal to prove in court. More important , because to wait for that is not the most important link is to get the hell out of harms way if humanely possible. I saw an add for childhood asthma and they talked about dust mites but no mention of particulate pollution. Amazing.. absolutely amazing and I bet my life that can be proved much more unhealthy for children in terms of how many babies affected and the severity of the condition then worrying about dust mites. I am not saying dust mites are not important but when compared to particulate pollution which is virtually never done, its importance is small. I want to know why particulate pollution is not resounding thru neighborhoods and cities which get it. This is the reason they die faster and its preventable if there was no conspiracy to not tell people -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last edited by rodo : Today at 06:49 PM. >> I saw an add for childhood asthma and they talked about dust mites but no >> mention of particulate pollution. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > your states government. They very well maybe doing more than you think to > cut particulates. You just don't spend the time to educate yourself. > I have seen it over and over and to the extent any tests would verify my > accusastions, I think its done deal to prove in court. You have failed to provide any proof that there is a conspiracy which by definition is a cohesive relationship between various corporations and government. Please provide your proof of communications, documents etc. found showing agreements made between corporations to form a conspiracy. If I could prove conclusively how they conspire to limit speech or consequences from particulate pollution, I wouldn't be writing here, I would be a lawyer in a courtroom ,but I do promote people to seek answers for things they can control. I am not a scientist but I can read the stats and make small comparisons in health news.and so far for almost every conceivable category of health the people downwind from particulate pollution are in worse shape. Of course how long a wait will you see the results of peoples health who live on streets with lots of truck traffic compared to people who live in clean air.. How long will you have to wait to see the stress tests comparisons, the hosptial admissions by age between people who get this pollution and don't. I assume if they are worried about tainted spinanch they would be worried about pollution that is causing more damage then most everything in this life combined... If you don't think thats important to find out people most affected are not warned or why those people are not told but rather have drug companies come to those places instead to advertise to.. then you can call it whatever you want. I call it a conspiracy to poison and profit at their expense. You heard it from me if they did comparisons those downwind from pollution would have much more respiratory problems and sleep problems. yet you hardly ever hear a peep about it. That says to me conspiracy. Ever hear news people ask hard questions anymore? I don't. Why is it if we saw a penny on the ground from space 50 years ago we can't catch terrorists or put an end to the terrorists training grounds? I can go on like why did Yahoo stop free posting of conversations after news ? I can ask why the city with the most asthma then every place in the US is not told of ways to limit the condition or about its air pollution. Poison contributes to jobs , truth means squat.. when they can poison you and get away with it. this is worse at times then lots of places we point fingers about. Why? Cause we know we are deciving and poisoning people and doing nothing much to stop it. >> I have seen it over and over and to the extent any tests would verify my >> accusastions, I think its done deal to prove in court. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > government. Please provide your proof of communications, documents etc. > found showing agreements made between corporations to form a conspiracy. > If I could prove conclusively how they conspire to limit speech or > consequences from particulate pollution, You dont even offer any evidence of such! Nothing at all! You keep saying "THEY", "THEM". Is that Mr. They or are you referring to someone else specifically that has this conspiracy going with Mr. Them? I wouldn't be writing here, I would > be a lawyer No, you don't have any lawyer abilities. If you did you would be more specific instead of vague generalizations about They and Them. in a courtroom ,but I do promote people to seek answers for > things they can control. Yet you haven't sought any answers for yourself. You know little about pollution, particulates, CO2 etc. You're not a lawyer nor a scientist. What exactly are you? > then you can call it whatever you want. I > call it a conspiracy to poison and profit at their expense. How are car companies profiting by making cars that pollute too much when consumer demand for fuel efficient cars is extremely high? > You heard it from me if they did comparisons those downwind from pollution > would have much more respiratory problems and sleep problems. yet you hardly > ever hear a peep about it. That says to me conspiracy. For it to be a conspiracy you have to define the exact parties that are correlating to form such a conspiracy. You can't beyond 'Them' and 'They'. I did a search for more co2 in atmosphere and came up with over 300 links lol I did a search about action to limit greenhouse gas now and cam up with 100s >> If I could prove conclusively how they conspire to limit speech or >> consequences from particulate pollution, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > correlating to form such a conspiracy. You can't beyond 'Them' and > 'They'. > I did a search for more co2 in atmosphere and came up with over 300 links > lol > I did a search about action to limit greenhouse gas now and cam up with 100s > of links.. trying getting help miles Sure there are tons of conspiracy theorists such as yourself with many writing on the web. Your point? I rather look for truth than biased opinions such as yours. There is no proof that CO2 has increased from man made pollution. FACT: Man exhales more CO2 than is produced from pollution. FACT:CO2 now averages .04%, same as 50 years ago. You need to educate yourself more on understanding the mechanics of our environment rather than just reading what you want to hear. |
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