I followed your advice and visited the website that you referred me to.
Urine sodium 20 (spot check--not a 24 hour urine test)
urine creatinine (24 hour) 2.24
plasma sodium 140
plasma creatinine 1.0
FENa was equal to 6.4 (as per the calculator).
Possible problem
There urine sodium was a spot check whereas the urine creatinine was a 24
hour urine test--is this a problem?
The words below the results state:
"FENa is greater than 1 percent and usually greater than 3 percent with
acute tubular necrosis and severe obstruction of the urinary drainage of
both kidneys..."
Since my FENa result was greater than 3 percent, could I have those kidney
problems mentioned above?
Jason
Stuart Shell - 25 Apr 2007 04:19 GMT
> I followed your advice and visited the website that you referred me to.
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> FENa was equal to 6.4 (as per the calculator).
The problem is that the urine creatinine should be 'spot' as well and
units of mg/dl. I suspect the 24 hr urine was total creatinine in the 24
hr specimen. The urine creatinine needs to be 'spot' at the same time of
serum studies and urine sodium.
Blackbag
> Possible problem
> There urine sodium was a spot check whereas the urine creatinine was a 24
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> Jason
Jason - 25 Apr 2007 19:31 GMT
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> Blackbag
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Blackbag,
thanks--your post was helpful.
jason
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Jason - 25 Apr 2007 04:28 GMT
> I followed your advice and visited the website that you referred me to.
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> Jason
Update:
I found a urine test that was done last year and it had a spot urine test
for creatinine so I ran the new number thru the calculator. These are the
new results:
urine sodium 20 spot check
urine creatinine 17.6 spot check
plasma sodium 140
plasma creatinine 1.0
FENa was equal to 0.8 (as per the calculator).
The words below the calculator state:
FENa "is generally less than 1 percent in patients with acute
glomerulonephritis, hepatonenal snydrome, and states of prerenal azotema
such as congestive heart failure or dehydration. FENa may also be less
than 1 per cent with acute partial urinary tract obstruction."
Could I have any of those kidney problems?
thanks,
Jason
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00doc - 25 Apr 2007 04:40 GMT
>> I followed your advice and visited the website that you referred me to.
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> Could I have any of those kidney problems?
The blood and the urine need to be from the same time period. If you are <1%
the most likely cuase is dehydration.

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00doc
Jason - 25 Apr 2007 19:25 GMT
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> The blood and the urine need to be from the same time period. If you are <1%
> the most likely cuase is dehydration.
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doc,
thanks--that was also my guess.
jason
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00doc - 25 Apr 2007 04:38 GMT
> I followed your advice and visited the website that you referred me to.
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> There urine sodium was a spot check whereas the urine creatinine was a 24
> hour urine test--is this a problem?
You should be using the concentration of urine creatinine. Ideally it should
be a spot urine sample done at about the same time as the blood work.
> The words below the results state:
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> Since my FENa result was greater than 3 percent, could I have those kidney
> problems mentioned above?
Probably not.
The serum creatinine is normal.
Why is he doing these tests anyway?

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00doc
Jason - 25 Apr 2007 19:25 GMT
> > I followed your advice and visited the website that you referred me to.
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> Why is he doing these tests anyway?
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doc,
He is trying to figure out why I have edema problems. I am reading a book
related to hypothyroidism and learned from that book that people that have
untreated hypothyroidism have all sorts of problems related to water
related weight gain. For several years, my doctor and myself incorrectly
assumed that weak kidneys were the cause of my edema problems. As you
know, water follows salt--so my doctor was trying to determine if I was
having salt/potassium related problems. My doctor recently arranged for me
to wear some sort of electronic device while I was sleeping to monitor my
breathing problems. I now have sleep apnea problems. I have calcium
deposits on my lungs. The specialist determined that I did not have asthma
last year but my breathing problems are getting much worse. He is trying
to figure out what is the cause of my symptoms.
jason
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