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Fat People and asthma
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ironjustice@aol.com - 02 Apr 2007 18:11 GMT Polycythemia is .. coincidentally .. VERY common in those with lung disease AND .. again .. coincidentally .. in those with **elevated weight**.
American Thoracic Society (ATS) Released: Tue 27-Mar-2007, 12:35 ET Embargo expired: Mon 02-Apr-2007, 06:00 ET Printer-friendly Version Asthma Incidence Shows a 50 Percent Increase in Fat People Libraries Medical News Keywords ASTHMA, OBESITY, OVERWEIGHT Contact Information
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/528458/
For overweight and obese individuals, the incidence of asthma increases by 50 percent, as compared to those of normal weight, according to a meta-analysis of seven studies on severe asthma involving 333,102 patients.
Newswise - For overweight and obese individuals, the incidence of asthma increases by 50 percent, as compared to those of normal weight, according to a meta-analysis of seven studies on severe asthma involving 333,102 patients.
The results appear in the first issue for April 2007 of the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine, published by the American Thoracic Society.
E. Rand Sutherland, M.D., M.P.H., of the National Jewish Medical and Research Center in Denver, and one associate found a dose-dependent increase in the odds for asthma in overweight and obese men and women. Based on their results, the researchers suggest that asthma incidence could by reduced by targeted interventions against being overweight or obese.
According to the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (1999-2002), 65 percent of U.S. adults are either overweight or obese. "Although asthma is less prevalent than obesity, it affects approximately 7 percent of the adult population in the United States," said Dr. Sutherland, who noted that the odds of asthma incidence in overweight men and women were similar.
Asthma, a respiratory disease characterized by recurrent episodes of difficult breathing, wheezing, cough and thick mucus production, affected approximately 20.5 million Americans in 2004. Some common asthma triggers are allergic stimuli, infections, stress or strenuous exercise.
"If significant weight loss could be achieved in the population of overweight and obese individuals, it could be estimated that the number of new asthma cases in United States adults might fall by as much as 250,000 per year," said Dr. Sutherland. "If that decrease can be extrapolated to the pediatric population, where the annual incidence of asthma is as much as five times higher, the effect of even small changes in mean population body mass index may translate into significant decreases in asthma incidence in children and adults."
The researchers noted that obesity in the absence of asthma causes physiologic impairments in lung function, including reduction in lung volume, chest wall restriction and an increase in the oxygen cost of breathing. It also contributes to various other conditions including gastroesophageal reflux and sleep apnea. These difficulties can result in breathlessness (dyspnea) and wheezing, which might be mistaken for asthma by patients and clinicians.
"Weight loss studies have shown improvements in lung function and asthma symptoms, but not necessarily in airflow obstruction or airway hyperresponsiveness," said Dr. Sutherland. "It is also reasonable to believe that some of the patients with 'asthma' may have respiratory symptoms due to obesity but may not meet rigorous objective physiologic criteria for asthma."
The authors concluded that obesity is a well-established risk factor for diabetes, sleep apnea, stroke, cardiovascular disease, arthritis and other illnesses. They said their findings support the addition of asthma to that list.
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Serum uric acid levels were significantly higher, as were the haemoglobin concentrations, in the obese compared with the patients who were not obese.
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William Morris - 02 Apr 2007 21:56 GMT On 4/2/07 12:11 PM, in article 1175533901.432748.309520@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "ironjustice@aol.com"
> Polycythemia is .. coincidentally .. VERY common in those with lung > disease AND .. again .. coincidentally .. in those with **elevated [quoted text clipped - 99 lines] > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk FYI, I think the term "fat" is pretty demeaning when talking about a person. Maybe could could keep that kind of garbage out of the sci.med.nursing group?
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ironjustice@aol.com - 02 Apr 2007 23:54 GMT >>On Apr 2, 1:56 pm, William Morris <wmor...@neb.rr.com> wrote: FYI, I think the term "fat" is pretty demeaning when talking about a person. Maybe could could keep that kind of garbage out of the sci.med.nursing group?<<
Actually that is .. specifically the word .. used BY the .. author ..
"Asthma Incidence Shows a 50 Percent Increase in Fat People"
Maybe you should write to them ..
Maybe you should .. protest .. if you can find time between .. laughs ..
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William Morris - 03 Apr 2007 14:36 GMT On 4/2/07 5:54 PM, in article 1175554449.250147.98100@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "ironjustice@aol.com"
>>> On Apr 2, 1:56 pm, William Morris <wmor...@neb.rr.com> wrote: FYI, I think >>> the term "fat" is pretty demeaning when talking about a person. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > DEAD PEOPLE WALKING > http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk Maybe you should choose your reference more tastefully then?
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miles - 03 Apr 2007 01:02 GMT > FYI, I think the term "fat" is pretty demeaning when talking about a person. > Maybe could could keep that kind of garbage out of the sci.med.nursing > group? PC cops are just getting out of hand lately. Trying to whittle down every word in our language so it doesn't offend anyone has gotten out of hand. Using some nice word that means the same thing is just semantics. It is what it is.
William Morris - 03 Apr 2007 14:41 GMT On 4/2/07 7:02 PM, in article wQgQh.136550$907.90405@newsfe13.phx, "miles" <nope@nopers.com> wrote:
>> FYI, I think the term "fat" is pretty demeaning when talking about a person. >> Maybe could could keep that kind of garbage out of the sci.med.nursing [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > hand. Using some nice word that means the same thing is just semantics. > It is what it is. If you want to be taken as serious in a medical newsgroup, such as sci.med.nursing, you should use the correct terms such as obese or overweight. If you want to look like you are crude and undereducated, the offensive slang works fine.
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Bob - 03 Apr 2007 20:18 GMT >> PC cops are just getting out of hand lately. Trying to whittle down >> every word in our language so it doesn't offend anyone has gotten out of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > overweight. If you want to look like you are crude and undereducated, the > offensive slang works fine. And be sure to not use beefy, big, blimp, brawny, broad, bulging, bulky, bull, burly, butterball, chunky, corpulent, cow, distended, dumpy, elephantine, fleshy, gargantuan, gross, heavy, heavyset, hefty, husky, inflated, jelly-belly, lard, large, meaty, oversize, paunchy, plump ponderous, porcine, portly, potbellied, pudgy, roly-poly, rotund, stout, stubby, swollen, thickset, tubby, upsized or whale.
Use obese or overweight please.
NorthShoreCEO - 03 Apr 2007 20:39 GMT >>And be sure to not use beefy, big, blimp, brawny, broad, bulging, bulky, bull, burly, butterball, chunky, corpulent, cow, distended, dumpy, elephantine, fleshy, gargantuan, gross, heavy, heavyset, hefty, husky, inflated, jelly-belly, lard, large, meaty, oversize, paunchy, plump ponderous, porcine, portly, potbellied, pudgy, roly-poly, rotund, stout, stubby, swollen, thickset, tubby, upsized or whale.>>
Is "well nourished with a pleasant personality" acceptable?
Bob - 03 Apr 2007 21:20 GMT >>>And be sure to not use beefy, big, blimp, brawny, broad, bulging, bulky, > bull, burly, butterball, chunky, corpulent, cow, distended, dumpy, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Is "well nourished with a pleasant personality" acceptable? Yes, as long as you realize the gravity of the situation.
miles - 04 Apr 2007 01:21 GMT > If you want to be taken as serious in a medical newsgroup, such as > sci.med.nursing, you should use the correct terms such as obese or > overweight. If you want to look like you are crude and undereducated, the > offensive slang works fine. BULL! Not conforming to the obsessed politically correct world does not make one crude or undereducated. Obese is offensive to some, so is calling a person overweight. It is what it is.
aroberts - 06 Apr 2007 04:08 GMT > On 4/2/07 7:02 PM, in article wQgQh.136550$907.90405@newsfe13.phx, "miles" > <nope@nopers.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > overweight. If you want to look like you are crude and undereducated, the > offensive slang works fine. So your sole comment about that study is their use of "fat"? It appears that you are more serious about political correctness than science. "Fat" is a perfectly descriptive term for persons who are overweight, and is not inherently pejorative. It has been in common parlance for centuries (perhaps you prefer Rubenesque?)
If you have invested the term with negative connotations, then you have the problem.
james - 03 Apr 2007 07:17 GMT "William Morris" <wmorris@neb.rr.com> wrote >>
> FYI, I think the term "fat" is pretty demeaning when talking about a > person. > Maybe could could keep that kind of garbage out of the sci.med.nursing > group? > > William F. Morris RN, BSN ironjustice@aol.com - 03 Apr 2007 11:24 GMT What is the .. significance .. OF .. Diabetes is an .. increased red blood cell INCLUDING disease / polycythemia / erythrocytosis .. Erythrocytosis is ACCOMPANIED by .. hemolysis / increased red blood cell DESTRUCTION .. This DEPOSITS .. iron ..
Weight challenged people have .. higher iron levels ..
Now not all weight challenged people have diabetes .. but .. many DO.
Does erythrocytosis CAUSE .. diabetes .. ? .. or is it just .. coincidence ..
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On Apr 2, 10:11 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
> Polycythemia is .. coincidentally .. VERY common in those with lung > disease AND .. again .. coincidentally .. in those with **elevated [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] > > DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk miles - 03 Apr 2007 14:19 GMT > Weight challenged people have .. higher iron levels .. 'Weight challenged' ? lol Too funny.
mcs@yahoo.com - 04 Apr 2007 02:57 GMT fat probably worsens asthma but probably does not cause it. Again I propose its the pollution first and its the heavy part that affects the severity probably . I am stating that if they did the comparisons between people who lived in clean air from those who live in moderate or worse particulate pollution the most they would find all the stats they would ever need. and the largest conspiracy ever to not tell people the differences in health, health care costs, longevity and respiratory disease.and the reason why murder has beeen allowed for all these years. Yes murder, when people are not told that by living in polluted areas from coal and car emissions and factories the most they not only had a bit more illness but they were MUCH MUCH more likely to be in worse health then the people in clean air . Cigaretee companies got away with murder for years, the car companies, coal and gov policies that didn't protect people most at risk has killed millions in the us sooner then they should have. I am saying if and remember I am swearing to god, I am right, if they compared the people in clean air to bad air who ate relatively the same things and didn't smoke. you would see very big difference in health with the polluted people doing way worse in stress tests, in 10ks especially the older the particpants were, way worse in the number of cancers and paying more costs for health care, and have more mortality sooner, more prescriptions and more hospital admissison and cancers then the same population in clean air. That Let God be my judge is murder by prescription allowed to go on in the last forty years. The difference I attest are staggering. Hold your breath for those studies. they don't even tell people in the cities when their cities air is rated f and they have the most asthma and adult onset asthma and respiratory deaths then every city in America. But the prescription companies are allowed to advertise all day and night for asthma and respiratory disease instead at the same news media. This is LET God by my judge the biggest conspiracy in the US of all time. I am saying trillions of dollars in productivity and health care has been lost solely to pollution and it continues today. Our supreme court has finally sided for the people. I guess the pollution is affecting some there in dc.
Polycythemia is .. coincidentally .. VERY common in those with lung disease AND .. again .. coincidentally .. in those with **elevated weight**.
American Thoracic Society (ATS) Released: Tue 27-Mar-2007, 12:35 ET Embargo expired: Mon 02-Apr-2007, 06:00 ET Printer-friendly Version Asthma Incidence Shows a 50 Percent Increase in Fat People Libraries Medical News Keywords ASTHMA, OBESITY, OVERWEIGHT Contact Information
http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/528458/
For overweight and obese individuals, the incidence of asthma increases by 50 percent, as compared to those of normal weight, according to a meta-analysis of seven studies on severe asthma involving 333,102 patients.
Newswise - For overweight and obese individuals, the incidence of asthma increases by 50 percent, as compared to those of normal weight, according to a meta-analysis of seven studies on severe asthma involving 333,102 patients.
The results appear in the first issue for April 2007 of the American Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine, published by the American Thoracic Society.
E. Rand Sutherland, M.D., M.P.H., of the National Jewish Medical and Research Center in Denver, and one associate found a dose-dependent increase in the odds for asthma in overweight and obese men and women. Based on their results, the researchers suggest that asthma incidence could by reduced by targeted interventions against being overweight or obese.
According to the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (1999-2002), 65 percent of U.S. adults are either overweight or obese. "Although asthma is less prevalent than obesity, it affects approximately 7 percent of the adult population in the United States," said Dr. Sutherland, who noted that the odds of asthma incidence in overweight men and women were similar.
Asthma, a respiratory disease characterized by recurrent episodes of difficult breathing, wheezing, cough and thick mucus production, affected approximately 20.5 million Americans in 2004. Some common asthma triggers are allergic stimuli, infections, stress or strenuous exercise.
"If significant weight loss could be achieved in the population of overweight and obese individuals, it could be estimated that the number of new asthma cases in United States adults might fall by as much as 250,000 per year," said Dr. Sutherland. "If that decrease can be extrapolated to the pediatric population, where the annual incidence of asthma is as much as five times higher, the effect of even small changes in mean population body mass index may translate into significant decreases in asthma incidence in children and adults."
The researchers noted that obesity in the absence of asthma causes physiologic impairments in lung function, including reduction in lung volume, chest wall restriction and an increase in the oxygen cost of breathing. It also contributes to various other conditions including gastroesophageal reflux and sleep apnea. These difficulties can result in breathlessness (dyspnea) and wheezing, which might be mistaken for asthma by patients and clinicians.
"Weight loss studies have shown improvements in lung function and asthma symptoms, but not necessarily in airflow obstruction or airway hyperresponsiveness," said Dr. Sutherland. "It is also reasonable to believe that some of the patients with 'asthma' may have respiratory symptoms due to obesity but may not meet rigorous objective physiologic criteria for asthma."
The authors concluded that obesity is a well-established risk factor for diabetes, sleep apnea, stroke, cardiovascular disease, arthritis and other illnesses. They said their findings support the addition of asthma to that list.
© 2007 Newswise. All Rights Reserved. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=480130
Serum uric acid levels were significantly higher, as were the haemoglobin concentrations, in the obese compared with the patients who were not obese.
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Who loves ya. Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian! http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
Man Is A Herbivore! http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3
DEAD PEOPLE WALKING http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
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