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ironjustice@aol.com - 02 Apr 2007 18:11 GMT
Polycythemia is .. coincidentally .. VERY common in those with lung
disease AND .. again .. coincidentally .. in those with **elevated
weight**.

American Thoracic Society (ATS)
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Asthma Incidence Shows a 50 Percent Increase in Fat People
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http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/528458/

For overweight and obese individuals, the incidence of asthma
increases by 50 percent, as compared to those of normal weight,
according to a meta-analysis of seven studies on severe asthma
involving 333,102 patients.

Newswise - For overweight and obese individuals, the incidence of
asthma increases by 50 percent, as compared to those of normal weight,
according to a meta-analysis of seven studies on severe asthma
involving 333,102 patients.

The results appear in the first issue for April 2007 of the American
Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine, published by the
American Thoracic Society.

E. Rand Sutherland, M.D., M.P.H., of the National Jewish Medical and
Research Center in Denver, and one associate found a dose-dependent
increase in the odds for asthma in overweight and obese men and women.
Based on their results, the researchers suggest that asthma incidence
could by reduced by targeted interventions against being overweight or
obese.

According to the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey
(1999-2002), 65 percent of U.S. adults are either overweight or obese.
"Although asthma is less prevalent than obesity, it affects
approximately 7 percent of the adult population in the United States,"
said Dr. Sutherland, who noted that the odds of asthma incidence in
overweight men and women were similar.

Asthma, a respiratory disease characterized by recurrent episodes of
difficult breathing, wheezing, cough and thick mucus production,
affected approximately 20.5 million Americans in 2004. Some common
asthma triggers are allergic stimuli, infections, stress or strenuous
exercise.

"If significant weight loss could be achieved in the population of
overweight and obese individuals, it could be estimated that the
number of new asthma cases in United States adults might fall by as
much as 250,000 per year," said Dr. Sutherland. "If that decrease can
be extrapolated to the pediatric population, where the annual
incidence of asthma is as much as five times higher, the effect of
even small changes in mean population body mass index may translate
into significant decreases in asthma incidence in children and
adults."

The researchers noted that obesity in the absence of asthma causes
physiologic impairments in lung function, including reduction in lung
volume, chest wall restriction and an increase in the oxygen cost of
breathing. It also contributes to various other conditions including
gastroesophageal reflux and sleep apnea. These difficulties can result
in breathlessness (dyspnea) and wheezing, which might be mistaken for
asthma by patients and clinicians.

"Weight loss studies have shown improvements in lung function and
asthma symptoms, but not necessarily in airflow obstruction or airway
hyperresponsiveness," said Dr. Sutherland. "It is also reasonable to
believe that some of the patients with 'asthma' may have respiratory
symptoms due to obesity but may not meet rigorous objective
physiologic criteria for asthma."

The authors concluded that obesity is a well-established risk factor
for diabetes, sleep apnea, stroke, cardiovascular disease, arthritis
and other illnesses. They said their findings support the addition of
asthma to that list.

© 2007 Newswise.  All Rights Reserved.
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http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=480130

Serum uric acid levels were significantly higher, as were the
haemoglobin concentrations, in the obese compared with the patients
who were not obese.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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William Morris - 02 Apr 2007 21:56 GMT
On 4/2/07 12:11 PM, in article
1175533901.432748.309520@y80g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "ironjustice@aol.com"

> Polycythemia is .. coincidentally .. VERY common in those with lung
> disease AND .. again .. coincidentally .. in those with **elevated
[quoted text clipped - 99 lines]
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

FYI, I think the term "fat" is pretty demeaning when talking about a person.
Maybe could could keep that kind of garbage out of the sci.med.nursing
group?

William F. Morris RN, BSN
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ironjustice@aol.com - 02 Apr 2007 23:54 GMT
>>On Apr 2, 1:56 pm, William Morris <wmor...@neb.rr.com> wrote: FYI, I think the term "fat" is pretty demeaning when talking about a person.
Maybe could could keep that kind of garbage out of the
sci.med.nursing
group?<<

Actually that is .. specifically the word .. used BY the .. author ..

"Asthma Incidence Shows a 50 Percent Increase in Fat People"

Maybe you should write to them ..

Maybe you should .. protest .. if you can find time between ..
laughs ..

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Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
William Morris - 03 Apr 2007 14:36 GMT
On 4/2/07 5:54 PM, in article
1175554449.250147.98100@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com, "ironjustice@aol.com"

>>> On Apr 2, 1:56 pm, William Morris <wmor...@neb.rr.com> wrote: FYI, I think
>>> the term "fat" is pretty demeaning when talking about a person.
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
> http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk

Maybe you should choose your reference more tastefully then?

William F. Morris RN, BSN
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"The quality and quantity of nursing care delivered is influenced by the
nurse's perception of the patient."
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miles - 03 Apr 2007 01:02 GMT
> FYI, I think the term "fat" is pretty demeaning when talking about a person.
> Maybe could could keep that kind of garbage out of the sci.med.nursing
> group?

PC cops are just getting out of hand lately.  Trying to whittle down
every word in our language so it doesn't offend anyone has gotten out of
hand.  Using some nice word that means the same thing is just semantics.
  It is what it is.
William Morris - 03 Apr 2007 14:41 GMT
On 4/2/07 7:02 PM, in article wQgQh.136550$907.90405@newsfe13.phx, "miles"
<nope@nopers.com> wrote:

>> FYI, I think the term "fat" is pretty demeaning when talking about a person.
>> Maybe could could keep that kind of garbage out of the sci.med.nursing
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> hand.  Using some nice word that means the same thing is just semantics.
>    It is what it is.

If you want to be taken as serious in a medical newsgroup, such as
sci.med.nursing, you should use the correct terms such as obese or
overweight. If you want to look like you are crude and undereducated, the
offensive slang works fine.

William F. Morris RN, BSN
Signature


"The quality and quantity of nursing care delivered is influenced by the
nurse's perception of the patient."
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Bob - 03 Apr 2007 20:18 GMT
>> PC cops are just getting out of hand lately.  Trying to whittle down
>> every word in our language so it doesn't offend anyone has gotten out of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> overweight. If you want to look like you are crude and undereducated, the
> offensive slang works fine.

And be sure to not use beefy, big, blimp, brawny, broad, bulging, bulky,
bull, burly, butterball, chunky, corpulent, cow, distended, dumpy,
elephantine, fleshy, gargantuan, gross, heavy, heavyset, hefty, husky,
inflated, jelly-belly, lard, large, meaty, oversize, paunchy, plump
ponderous, porcine, portly, potbellied, pudgy, roly-poly, rotund, stout,
stubby, swollen, thickset, tubby, upsized or whale.

Use obese or overweight please.
NorthShoreCEO - 03 Apr 2007 20:39 GMT
>>And be sure to not use beefy, big, blimp, brawny, broad, bulging, bulky,
bull, burly, butterball, chunky, corpulent, cow, distended, dumpy,
elephantine, fleshy, gargantuan, gross, heavy, heavyset, hefty, husky,
inflated, jelly-belly, lard, large, meaty, oversize, paunchy, plump
ponderous, porcine, portly, potbellied, pudgy, roly-poly, rotund, stout,
stubby, swollen, thickset, tubby, upsized or whale.>>

Is "well nourished with a pleasant personality" acceptable?
Bob - 03 Apr 2007 21:20 GMT
>>>And be sure to not use beefy, big, blimp, brawny, broad, bulging, bulky,
> bull, burly, butterball, chunky, corpulent, cow, distended, dumpy,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Is "well nourished with a pleasant personality" acceptable?

Yes, as long as you realize the gravity of the situation.
miles - 04 Apr 2007 01:21 GMT
> If you want to be taken as serious in a medical newsgroup, such as
> sci.med.nursing, you should use the correct terms such as obese or
> overweight. If you want to look like you are crude and undereducated, the
> offensive slang works fine.

BULL!  Not conforming to the obsessed politically correct world does not
make one crude or undereducated.  Obese is offensive to some, so is
calling a person overweight.  It is what it is.
aroberts - 06 Apr 2007 04:08 GMT
> On 4/2/07 7:02 PM, in article wQgQh.136550$907.90405@newsfe13.phx, "miles"
> <nope@nopers.com> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> overweight. If you want to look like you are crude and undereducated, the
> offensive slang works fine.

So your sole comment about that study is their use of "fat"?  It appears
that you are more serious about political correctness than science.  "Fat"
is a perfectly descriptive term for persons who are overweight, and is not
inherently pejorative.  It has been in common parlance for centuries
(perhaps you prefer Rubenesque?)

If you have invested the term with negative connotations, then you have the
problem.
james - 03 Apr 2007 07:17 GMT
"William Morris" <wmorris@neb.rr.com> wrote >>

> FYI, I think the term "fat" is pretty demeaning when talking about a
> person.
> Maybe could could keep that kind of garbage out of the sci.med.nursing
> group?
>
> William F. Morris RN, BSN
ironjustice@aol.com - 03 Apr 2007 11:24 GMT
What is the .. significance .. OF ..
Diabetes is an .. increased red blood cell INCLUDING disease /
polycythemia / erythrocytosis ..
Erythrocytosis is ACCOMPANIED by .. hemolysis / increased red blood
cell DESTRUCTION ..
This DEPOSITS .. iron ..

Weight challenged people have .. higher iron levels ..

Now not all weight challenged people have diabetes .. but .. many DO.

Does erythrocytosis CAUSE .. diabetes .. ? .. or is it just ..
coincidence ..

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DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
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On Apr 2, 10:11 am, "ironjust...@aol.com" <ironjust...@aol.com> wrote:
> Polycythemia is .. coincidentally .. VERY common in those with lung
> disease AND .. again .. coincidentally .. in those with **elevated
[quoted text clipped - 94 lines]
>
> DEAD PEOPLE WALKINGhttp://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
miles - 03 Apr 2007 14:19 GMT
> Weight challenged people have .. higher iron levels ..

'Weight challenged' ?  lol  Too funny.
mcs@yahoo.com - 04 Apr 2007 02:57 GMT
fat probably worsens asthma but probably does not cause it. Again  I propose
its the pollution first and its the heavy part that affects the
severity probably
. I am stating that if they did the comparisons between people who lived in
clean air from those who live in moderate or worse particulate pollution the
most  they would find all the stats they would ever need. and the
largest conspiracy ever to not tell people the differences in health, health
care costs, longevity and respiratory disease.and the reason why murder has
beeen allowed for all these years. Yes murder, when people are not told that
by living in polluted areas from coal and car emissions and factories the
most they not only had a bit more illness but they were MUCH MUCH more
likely to be in worse health then the people in clean air . Cigaretee
companies got away with murder for years, the car companies, coal and gov
policies that didn't protect people most at risk has killed millions in the
us sooner then they should have. I am saying if and remember I am swearing
to god, I am right, if they compared the people in clean air to bad air who
ate relatively the same things and didn't smoke. you would see very big
difference in health  with the polluted people doing way worse in stress
tests, in 10ks especially the older the particpants were, way worse in the
number of cancers and paying more costs for health care, and have more
mortality sooner, more prescriptions and more hospital admissison and
cancers then the same population in clean air. That Let God be my judge is
murder by prescription allowed to go on in the last forty years. The
difference I attest are staggering. Hold your breath for those studies. they
don't even tell people in the cities when their cities air is rated f and
they have the most asthma and adult onset asthma and respiratory deaths then
every city in America. But the prescription companies are allowed to
advertise all day and night for asthma and respiratory disease instead at
the same news media. This is LET God by my judge the biggest conspiracy in
the US of all time. I am saying trillions of dollars in productivity and
health care has been lost solely to pollution and it continues today.
Our supreme court has finally sided for the people. I guess the pollution is
affecting some there in dc.

Polycythemia is .. coincidentally .. VERY common in those with lung
disease AND .. again .. coincidentally .. in those with **elevated
weight**.

American Thoracic Society (ATS)
Released: Tue 27-Mar-2007, 12:35 ET
Embargo expired: Mon 02-Apr-2007, 06:00 ET Printer-friendly Version
Asthma Incidence Shows a 50 Percent Increase in Fat People
Libraries
Medical News   Keywords
ASTHMA, OBESITY, OVERWEIGHT
Contact Information

http://www.newswise.com/articles/view/528458/

For overweight and obese individuals, the incidence of asthma
increases by 50 percent, as compared to those of normal weight,
according to a meta-analysis of seven studies on severe asthma
involving 333,102 patients.

Newswise - For overweight and obese individuals, the incidence of
asthma increases by 50 percent, as compared to those of normal weight,
according to a meta-analysis of seven studies on severe asthma
involving 333,102 patients.

The results appear in the first issue for April 2007 of the American
Journal of Respiratory and Critical Care Medicine, published by the
American Thoracic Society.

E. Rand Sutherland, M.D., M.P.H., of the National Jewish Medical and
Research Center in Denver, and one associate found a dose-dependent
increase in the odds for asthma in overweight and obese men and women.
Based on their results, the researchers suggest that asthma incidence
could by reduced by targeted interventions against being overweight or
obese.

According to the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey
(1999-2002), 65 percent of U.S. adults are either overweight or obese.
"Although asthma is less prevalent than obesity, it affects
approximately 7 percent of the adult population in the United States,"
said Dr. Sutherland, who noted that the odds of asthma incidence in
overweight men and women were similar.

Asthma, a respiratory disease characterized by recurrent episodes of
difficult breathing, wheezing, cough and thick mucus production,
affected approximately 20.5 million Americans in 2004. Some common
asthma triggers are allergic stimuli, infections, stress or strenuous
exercise.

"If significant weight loss could be achieved in the population of
overweight and obese individuals, it could be estimated that the
number of new asthma cases in United States adults might fall by as
much as 250,000 per year," said Dr. Sutherland. "If that decrease can
be extrapolated to the pediatric population, where the annual
incidence of asthma is as much as five times higher, the effect of
even small changes in mean population body mass index may translate
into significant decreases in asthma incidence in children and
adults."

The researchers noted that obesity in the absence of asthma causes
physiologic impairments in lung function, including reduction in lung
volume, chest wall restriction and an increase in the oxygen cost of
breathing. It also contributes to various other conditions including
gastroesophageal reflux and sleep apnea. These difficulties can result
in breathlessness (dyspnea) and wheezing, which might be mistaken for
asthma by patients and clinicians.

"Weight loss studies have shown improvements in lung function and
asthma symptoms, but not necessarily in airflow obstruction or airway
hyperresponsiveness," said Dr. Sutherland. "It is also reasonable to
believe that some of the patients with 'asthma' may have respiratory
symptoms due to obesity but may not meet rigorous objective
physiologic criteria for asthma."

The authors concluded that obesity is a well-established risk factor
for diabetes, sleep apnea, stroke, cardiovascular disease, arthritis
and other illnesses. They said their findings support the addition of
asthma to that list.

© 2007 Newswise.  All Rights Reserved.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=480130

Serum uric acid levels were significantly higher, as were the
haemoglobin concentrations, in the obese compared with the patients
who were not obese.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Who loves ya.
Tom

Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com

Man Is A Herbivore!
http://tinyurl.com/a3cc3

DEAD PEOPLE WALKING
http://tinyurl.com/zk9fk
 
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