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Steve - 21 Oct 2003 09:23 GMT
Went to my Doc today for the first time in a year.  2 years ago, he
prescribed, and I have been taking, Serevent aerosol, 2 puffs bid, and
Flovent 110, 2 puffs bid.  This changed to Serevent Discus 50 on last
refill, with the Flovent.  Been doing well on this.

Today he gave me a new Rx for Advair Diskus 100/50.  He told me that I
should do one inhalation bid, but if one wasn't doing the trick, use two.  I
came home and checked the net, and everything I find says to not exceed one
inhalation bid.

Is this good advice?  Anybody?

Steve
Mark - 21 Oct 2003 13:15 GMT
>Went to my Doc today for the first time in a year.  2 years ago, he
>prescribed, and I have been taking, Serevent aerosol, 2 puffs bid, and
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>
>Steve

Your advair is the lowest "strength" one, so doing 2 a day should be fine.
Not sure what you mean by "bid".  If you mean taking 2 inhales at a time, no
don't do that.

Also, don't take the flovent with it (if they didn't already tell you this).
Advair contains it's own steroid, no need to double up on that....
Colin Campbell - 21 Oct 2003 15:25 GMT
>Also, don't take the flovent with it (if they didn't already tell you this).
>Advair contains it's own steroid, no need to double up on that....

It is fairly common for another inhaled steroid to be added to Advair.
It is the Serevent that you do not want to add to it.

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Mark - 22 Oct 2003 14:35 GMT
>>Also, don't take the flovent with it (if they didn't already tell you this).
>>Advair contains it's own steroid, no need to double up on that....
>
>It is fairly common for another inhaled steroid to be added to Advair.
>It is the Serevent that you do not want to add to it.

If the previous medication was Serevent inhaler with Flovent (very common
combination), you do NOT want to keep the Flovent when switching from Serevent
to Advair.  You will be almost doubling your steroid intake and will feel the
effects within a week.
Colin Campbell - 22 Oct 2003 16:48 GMT
>>It is fairly common for another inhaled steroid to be added to Advair.
>>It is the Serevent that you do not want to add to it.
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>to Advair.  You will be almost doubling your steroid intake and will feel the
>effects within a week.

This depends on the steroid dose recommended by the doctor.  One of
the drawbacks to Advair is that you cannot increase the medication as
necessary so an additional inhaled steroid is frequently added when
the Advair is not enough.

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No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
Steve - 22 Oct 2003 20:45 GMT
bid = twice/day.

What i'm getting at is:  Advair 100/50 is 100 mcg of Flovent and 50 mcg of
Serevent.  I've been taking 220 mcg of Flovent (2 puffs of a 110 mcg
inhaler) twice a day, and 50 of Serevent (2 puffs of a 25 mcg inhaler).
If I take two drags on the Advair, I'll be getting 100 mcg of Serevent.  Is
this too much?

Thanks
Steve
mabel - 23 Oct 2003 00:45 GMT
> bid = twice/day.
>
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> Thanks
> Steve

Yes.  Advair comes in three strengths.  100/50, 250/50, and 500/50. You need
a stronger dose if the 100/50 isn't working for you.  The 250/50 would be
closer to the dose you have been using.

Mabel
Caren Bertalot - 23 Oct 2003 02:04 GMT
> Went to my Doc today for the first time in a year.  2 years ago, he
> prescribed, and I have been taking, Serevent aerosol, 2 puffs bid, and
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> Steve
> My two sons and I take the Advair inhalers. I take the 250, and my sons
take the 500. It will not hurt you to take two puffs of the 100/50. I
suggest if you need two puffs, you ask the doctor to up you dosage. It
really helps my family. I wouldn't use anything else.
Caren
DIONYSUS - 09 Jul 2004 22:58 GMT
I'm not entirly sure ,but i think bid means as needed. The problem
with taking serevent and advair is the 50 in the 150/50 is serevent so
taking two pffs of advair ,and at least one of the serevent alone
would probaly be way too much serevent...loftyone@comcast.net  On Wed,
22 Oct 2003 21:04:53 -0400, "Caren Bertalot" <carenb1@charter.net>
wrote:

>> Went to my Doc today for the first time in a year.  2 years ago, he
>> prescribed, and I have been taking, Serevent aerosol, 2 puffs bid, and
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>really helps my family. I wouldn't use anything else.
>Caren
Chefchk - 10 Jul 2004 04:22 GMT
>I'm not entirly sure ,but i think bid means as needed

BID means twice a day.

From what I have learned from my doctor, you should not exceed one puff BID.
Even though there are higher concentrations of Advair, the Serevent aspect of
the inhaler does not change as the Flovent goes up.  If 100/50 isn't doing the
trick for you, then you need to talk to your doctor about moving up to the 250
once a day.

I hope this helps.

Life is uncertain - eat dessert first.
Nancy
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wheezykid - 10 Jul 2004 16:15 GMT
My specialist put on Seretide 500/50 2 inhalations twice a day.
Is it very high dose?
i'm on prenisolone 10mg too...
Chefchk - 10 Jul 2004 16:51 GMT
>My specialist put on Seretide 500/50 2 inhalations twice a day.
>Is it very high dose?
>i'm on prenisolone 10mg too..

Unfortunately, I don't know much about Seretide.  What is it?  Is it a steroid
like Advair - then you certainly shouldn't be taking both.  I take Advair
500/50, which is the highest dose of advair.  I would DEFINITELY check with
your doc or even your pharmacist to make sure you aren't taking 2 of the same
things.

Is the prednisone long term? How long have you been taking it?

Life is uncertain - eat dessert first.
Nancy
8=: )
ARoberts - 10 Jul 2004 17:34 GMT
> My specialist put on Seretide 500/50 2 inhalations twice a day.
> Is it very high dose?
> i'm on prenisolone 10mg too...

According to GlaxoSmithKline, the makers of Seretide, this is the
recommended dosage for adults.
ARoberts - 11 Jul 2004 15:12 GMT
> > My specialist put on Seretide 500/50 2 inhalations twice a day.
> > Is it very high dose?
> > i'm on prenisolone 10mg too...
>
> According to GlaxoSmithKline, the makers of Seretide, this is the
> recommended dosage for adults.

Whoa, wait.  I misread.  Two(!) inhalations twice a day is double the
recommended dose for adults, according to the Mfg.
LWyremba - 11 Jul 2004 05:21 GMT
Im Artikel <972dae6f.0407100715.481499f9@posting.google.com>,
kennynwp@hotpop.com (wheezykid) schreibt:

>My specialist put on Seretide 500/50 2 inhalations twice a day.
>Is it very high dose?
>i'm on prenisolone 10mg too...

means 2000/200µg
highest possible dosis, in europe only authorized by a specialist
Lothar
CBI - 12 Jul 2004 20:02 GMT
> >I'm not entirly sure ,but i think bid means as needed
>
> BID means twice a day.

yep - q day - once daily

tid - thrice

qid - 4 times (but they are phasing that abreviation out due to
confusion between hand written q.i.d's and qd's.

PRN means as needed.

> From what I have learned from my doctor, you should not exceed one puff BID.
> Even though there are higher concentrations of Advair, the Serevent aspect of
> the inhaler does not change as the Flovent goes up.  If 100/50 isn't doing the
> trick for you, then you need to talk to your doctor about moving up to the 250
> once a day.

Right- the dose of the Serevent limits it to one puff twice daily. If
a higher dose of inhaled steroid is needed the formulation can be
changed, Flovent added, or have it split into Serevent and Flovent as
seperate inhalers depending on what doses are needed.

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