Sounds very familiar (inculding the prednisone pattern), except that I
got it when I was 29, and I am now 31. It happenned almost
instantenously and turned my life upside down. I used to be a well-
conditioned endurance athlete (not anymore), had a nice career (still
trying to hang on, but right at the edge), and a happy family (still
trying to hang on, but right at the edge). I spend 50% of my time at
work just thinking of, or researching on my condition, since I still
believe that I can beat it rationally.
I am very frustrated with doctors who use population-average numbers
to tell how healthy a given patient is. By their standards I am
healthy and I am making up my disease. I produce a peak flow of 750
during my sick days (with predicted of 600), and 900+ (beyond the
scale) when my asthma is under control.
I hate to repeat myself like this, but whenever I hear that the quality of
life has really declined with asthma, it makes me wonder if the asthma
wasn't caused by bacteria.
I just posted this as a reply to another poster, but will cut and paste it
here, too:
I'm just wondering if you had an illness within the past year that hit you
hard in the chest? Flu, bronchitis, pneumonia or a really bad cold?
In some cases, an illness can be the onset of adult asthma. There are
bacteria (mycoplasma and chlamydia pneumoniae) that can accompany one of the
above illnesses, and sometimes it remains in the tissue long after the acute
illness. It can either cause asthma or make a persons asthma worse. The
fix is taking Azithromycin for three days in a row at 500mgs, followed by
weekly doses of 750mgs up to twelve weeks.
There's a support group that I'm moderating where you'll find a lot of
studies about this:
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/infectious_asthma/
I had asthma for more than thirty years before I took the antibiotics as
prescribed, and I've been asthma and asthma-med free for over 3.5 years, and
my son has also been asthma and asthma-med free for over three years.
Most asthmatics find the right combination of medicine that helps them
function fully. When you've tried different combinations and still
struggle, it's often because bacteria has either caused your asthma, or made
your asthma worse. If so, the right antibiotic at the right dose for the
right period of time, can either improve asthma, or completely eradicate it.
It doesn't work for everyone, but it worked for me and a lot of other
people, so you may want to look into that.
Tyler - 31 Jan 2007 18:27 GMT
On Jan 31, 8:01 am, "NorthShoreCEO" <NorthShore...@NOSPAMaol.com>
wrote:
> I hate to repeat myself like this, but whenever I hear that the quality of
> life has really declined with asthma, it makes me wonder if the asthma
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> It doesn't work for everyone, but it worked for me and a lot of other
> people, so you may want to look into that.
I had a history of bronchitis infection
especially in winter,
Once in a while like every two years
Or something. before I was diagnosed
With asthma I never had to take any medicine
For asthma. An antibiotic would usually
Solve the problem.
That winter I had
What I thought it was (and maybe it was)
A bronchitis infection. This time though, I
Had a little harder time breathing. When I went
To the emergency room (I didn't want to
Wait two months to see the doctor) I told
The doctor my history of bronchitis infection
Yet the only thing he do is prescribe some
Prednisone. I got better but got really sick
Again in like four months.
When I went
To see de doctor again I explained everything
To him. He prescribed more prednisone.
Long story short. Every time they prescribed
The prednisone I got better but got sicker
Again in a few months after that.
Like a year and a half later when I was
Using several inhalers and still feeling
Sick I went to see a pulmonologist.
He told me when he saw me that it seemed
More like an infection than asthma.
He started treating me with antibiotics.
Including azithromicin for three days. And
Some others like clarithromicin
And I got better. The main problem is that
Before I got asthma, I Had a tendency to
Get a throat infection. My asthma is somewhat
Sever. So when I take the inhalers regularly
Including one with corticosteroid I feel better but I start getting
An infection in my throat and eventually bronchitis.
Or a cold that usually develops into a bronchitis infection
Too. So if I don't use my corticosteroid inhaler (and I have
Tried several different types with the same results) I start
Having a real hard time breathing. But if I use it regularly,
I can breath well for a few days but I start getting
Signs of infection. That get worst and worst and the
Infection develops in a few days.
So what I do is as soon
As I can breath better but getting signs of infection,
I start using my corticosteroid inhaler
Less often and this usually stops the infection from developing.
But I start having breathing difficulty a few days after this.
I read your article and it made sense to me. I managed to buy
The azithromicin and I took it the way you described above.
During those weeks, I didn't feel the signs of infection sometimes
I felt while using the corticosteroid inhaler. On the eleventh week
though,
I felt like I was getting a cold the symptoms disappeared after taking
the pill. Same thing during the twelve week. And finally on the
thirteen
week when I was not taking the azitrhomicin anymore I got a cold.
My twelve week was two weeks ago and I am just getting over the
Cold. As far as my asthma symptoms I feel pretty much the same.
Is there a chance I am going to get better after getting over the cold
because of the azithromicin I took?
NorthShoreCEO - 31 Jan 2007 18:49 GMT
It sounds like you may have the kind of asthma caused by bacteria. If
interested, join the yahoo group and check out the studies in the Links
section, and additional information in the Files section.
runcyclexcski@yahoo.com - 31 Jan 2007 19:20 GMT
The azythromycin protocol of Dr Hahn can indeed be very helpful to
some patients, but it;s not a panacea. I did not benefit from it. But
it's definitely worth trying.
>I was diagnosed with asthma when I was 17 years old
>Before that my life was somewhat normal. For the next
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Myself, I started off young and had been prone to bronchitis-like
illnesses at one point. As others have mentioned, there is the
possibility that there is a bacterial source and I am hoping that when a
trial of the Hahn protocol is undertaken locally that I will be able to
be involved.
I basically went undiagnosed from childhood until I was in my mid 20's.
In my case, as compared to my current "in control" levels, I was living
with a "normal" peak flow of about 55-60% of what it should have been.
Needless to say, I didn't like sports or phys. ed. as I felt horrible
doing it. Became a bookworm and fairly heavy as a result. Now at 32,
though I'm not big on all the meds, I'm routinely running in the low 80%
range for peak flow and can get out and enjoy things like mountain
biking / cycling (including long distance stuff). I'm getting back into
shape and acutally getting a little more zest back into my life.
Short synopsis, but that's bascially the story,
Mike