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scullycat - 08 Dec 2006 17:42 GMT
A homeopath told me years ago that stopping all dairy is the main key to
relieve asthma symptoms. I brought my son years ago. He was never willing to
try, but what is your experience?
Melanie - 08 Dec 2006 21:07 GMT
> A homeopath told me years ago that stopping all dairy is the main key to
> relieve asthma symptoms. I brought my son years ago. He was never willing to
> try, but what is your experience?

My allergy tests didn't finger dairy but I do have problems with it.
Best thing is to quit the dairy for a couple months to see how he does.

I know it's hard, I've been eating it off and on for a while, but since
I picked up a small cold this season the dairy has been bothering me so
I stopped it. The next day I was able to breathe easier. I also have
problems with wheat and grains.

It has always been my goal to relieve my symptoms the best I can so I
do not need to use my inhaler. The progress has been real slow and
sometimes I wonder if it's worth it. But then I see I only needed one
inhaler since the summer so the progress can be seen.

~Melanie
mcs - 09 Dec 2006 03:03 GMT
near heard of this, and from personal experience, not at all accurate. I
talk to people with breathing problems because I have breathing problems and
while anything or anyone might have an allergy to anything, I rarely heard
of dairy causing asthma. I hardly eat dairy and my asthma is worse but not
because I stopped dairy. Its just the progression of time and the daily
accumulation of the crap that comes from the air
>A homeopath told me years ago that stopping all dairy is the main key to
>relieve asthma symptoms. I brought my son years ago. He was never willing
>to try, but what is your experience?
scullycat - 09 Dec 2006 16:18 GMT
Thank you for your responses. I'm very surprised that the stopping of any
dairy isn't very popular as the homeopath said that it is mucous producing.
> near heard of this, and from personal experience, not at all accurate. I
> talk to people with breathing problems because I have breathing problems
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>>relieve asthma symptoms. I brought my son years ago. He was never willing
>>to try, but what is your experience?
00doc - 10 Dec 2006 14:34 GMT
> Thank you for your responses. I'm very surprised that the stopping of any
> dairy isn't very popular as the homeopath said that it is mucous
> producing.

The milk is mucus producing stuff is an urban legend. Unfortunately, many
advisors (in all different fields) are not willing to admit the limits of
their knowledge and when they simply have no more good ideas left. I think
some groups are more prone to this than others but it is true to some degree
of all types. Advisors tend to give good, solid, well supported information
when they have it and gradually move into less well established territory as
they run out of things to say until they start spewing nonsense they read on
the Internet and heard from their neighbor. The "dairy is mucus producing
and should be avoided in asthma" is one such factoid and should be a clue to
get up and walk out of the office. So is the common "drink eight glasses of
water a day" advice.

Some people are allergic to milk. They can have it as a trigger for asthma
as well as eczema. Cow's milk is a common trigger for eczema in infants. It
is often a delayed reaction that does not start until a 8 to 12 hours after
ingestion. A common history is that the person drinks milk with dinner and
then starts wheezing at 3 am leading the docs to diagnose a dust mite
allergy and hound the patient about cleaning the room and covering the
matress. When the symptoms persist the docs assume that the patient is not
being vigorous enough with the dust mite control measures and harps on them.

In this situation, or any where the asthma symptoms seem to have an
undiscovered trigger it is worth trying to eleiminate dairy for at least
several days to see if it helps. Most asthmatics, however, will find that it
doesn't. Advising those people to avoid milk due to some general mucus
producing effect is quackery.

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runcyclexcski@yahoo.com - 10 Dec 2006 21:22 GMT
>A common history is that the person drinks milk with dinner and
> then starts wheezing at 3 am leading the docs to diagnose a dust mite
> allergy and hound the patient about cleaning the room and covering the
> matress.

Great point. I've had a similar experience thinking that my asthma is
worse in the shower and blaming chloramine treatment of water. Turns
out the congestion comes from food I eat before taking the shower.

I am starting to realize that it's up to the patient to figure out the
cause-and-effect relationships between what they do in their daily
routines and their symptoms. Doctors only have 15 min to graps a
patient's story, and then the story is out of their heads for a month,
so, jumping to conlcusions is very common.
scullycat - 12 Dec 2006 14:05 GMT
very good points...thanks
> >A common history is that the person drinks milk with dinner and
>> then starts wheezing at 3 am leading the docs to diagnose a dust mite
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> patient's story, and then the story is out of their heads for a month,
> so, jumping to conlcusions is very common.
TRN - 14 Dec 2006 18:24 GMT
I have the shower/bath problem also. I always thought it was either the mold
or the steam was breaking up some congestion.

It took me years to realize it is up to the patient to figure out asthma.
You are way ahead of me.

> >A common history is that the person drinks milk with dinner and
> > then starts wheezing at 3 am leading the docs to diagnose a dust mite
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> patient's story, and then the story is out of their heads for a month,
> so, jumping to conlcusions is very common.
 
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